Quick clot?

[carsong]

Does anyone have any experience with the "quick clotting" powder I have seen for sale at a lot of gun shows and sporting goods stores? Is it something I should put in my saddlebags with my first aid kit on motorcycle trips? Wondering how it works. Risks, etc. I don't remember seeing this sold before.

 

[Happypuppy]

Yes I'd does work well. While hiking a berry bush of all things did a number on me after a tumble. It worked very well. There are some precautions on its use mostly on deep punctures

just 'bout the action boss...

 

[Firefighterchen]

If you get quick clot, make sure it's quick clot 2. The first generation had issues with getting too hot and burning tissue.

If you see celox, I'd recommend that over quick clot.

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[POP CHARLIE]

I carry a first aid kit with quick clot in my car and have some at the house also. If you are a shooter I would keep some in your shooting bag. Better safe than sorry.

 

[sxedrummer]

I keep a first aid kit in the trunk complete with quick clot. No need to keep bleeding while I wait for paramedics.

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[alextpearson]

I've worked in the medical field for year and have first responder experience and have been in many surgeries nothing will ever come close to good old pressure. Have something to make a quick tourniquet. There is a product called blood stop that we used during MOHS procedures that works great but I'd go for pressure in the field.

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[Nightmare45]

Many years as a Medic, direct pressure, but anything that works and helps is good for me.

 

[Cleburne]

When I worked for an ambulance service we had it on the trucks. I never had the chance to use it but my coworkers said it work great.

 

[LejeuneCCHTraining]

I have personal experience with hemostatic agents such as Quikclot and Celox. That powder that you refer to is a definite no-go. I would look for Quikclot Combat gauze which doesn't create the chemical burn hazards the old powder creates. It is a Z-folded gauze strip impregnated with the hemostatic agent to promote clotting.

I agree that direct pressure is critical, and tourniquets are a must have, but I think some of the answers missed the mark on a couple key areas. The Quikclot gauze is vital in the areas where your limbs meet the torso. Gunshots in these areas are too often fatal (especially groin) due to the inability to apply tourniquets and severe femoral hemorrhage. The trick is getting the hemostatic gauze to the site of the bleed, which involves vigorously stuffing the wound and actually inserting fingers to ensure coverage on the source of the bleed. Firm direct pressure is still required.

Take care not to stuff these into the thoracic cavity of the victim and you must evaluate whether or not you truly need to use them. Many simple gunshots require good old fashioned sterile gauze and direct pressure.

 

[MamaLiberty]

IF you have and decide to use the powder... be very careful not to inhale it, or to allow the patient to inhale it. Bad news. Direct pressure is the most important thing you can do. I've never seen it done, but I've been told that a tampon can produce the pressure needed for a large puncture or gunshot wound. Anyone here with experience using that?

Old RN, with time served in the ER.

 

[LejeuneCCHTraining]

I think you won't have to worry about inhaling it if you just stay away from it (the powder) completely. Use the combat gauze.

Tampons are an old battlefield trick, they work about as good as regular gauze. They were favored for being compact and already in the shape of a bullet cavity. There are several advances for your gunshot kit, use tampons when you don't have access to the higher quality products.

 

[scrooster]

If you get quick clot, make sure it's quick clot 2. The first generation had issues with getting too hot and burning tissue.

If you see celox, I'd recommend that over quick clot.

Exactly this ^^^^^^^^

 

[gunnerbob]

Original Quick Clot & Burning Demonstration

Here's a demonstration video about original Quick Clot and the "burning" effect, provided by HossUSMC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddqg2u4_4gc

 

[Mobuck]

I've used a lot of "blood stop" in veterinary use. Assuming the human version works similarly, I'd use it but probably not alone. Real gushers are going to need physical pressure.

 

[Rhino]

The only thing that'll stop a gusher is a tourniquet or a clamp/hemostat/forceps/etc. We discussed this in more detail recently in this thread.

 

[steveksfc]

agree with all that has been said from my experience in the medical field, combat and etc. Have had way to much experience with battle wounds and what works and what doesn't but thinking outside of the box many times also works. All that has been said works. Tampon and sanitary napkins does work wonders and used to be used a lot when nothing else was available.

 

[Rhino]

Have sanitary napkins in some of our trauma bags, and some trauma dressings are just sanitary napkins with a different wrapper. But ERs don't like it when you put a tampon into a wound. It can cause more problems when they remove it because it can actually pull some of the flesh out with it.

 

[gunnerbob]

Is there a preferred size of tampon, if it was to be utilized in an emergency? Would the smaller ones be better, to prevent it from swelling "too" much?

 

[Rhino]

Is there a preferred size of tampon, if it was to be utilized in an emergency? Would the smaller ones be better, to prevent it from swelling "too" much?

Like large caliber or small caliber?

 

[Mobuck]

I've used a similar product in the veterinary field many times. It does work BUT it works far better if you can apply pressure after application. I doubt the success of a squeamish individual just scattering the powder on or around a deep wound-you're going to have to get messy.