Pulled over for speeding in FL while CARRYING

[denverr1]

Just have to say I had a very nice experience with FL trooper this morning ! Moved here few months ago never been pulled over I woke up to a massive flu! Feeling like crap but can't afford to miss a day of pay so woke up little early and decided I would go in alittle early and take a nap in the car at work sense it's a 68 mile drive to work Got into my car at 330am and headed out . Feeling like crap and thinking to myself maybe I should stay home ,I get the lights flashing behind me !!i look down and I am going 80!! (10mph over) I pull over and get out my liscense ,reg , insurance and I know I didn't have to but I did CCW PERMIT HE comes to the car and says Hello Sir how r you this morning "as I hand him my info . I give him my info and say well could be better I am very sick and trying to make it to work. HE looks at my info and says "I see you have a CCW are you carrying now? I said "Yes Sir I am carrying now" Trooper : what are you carrying Me : A Glock Trooper : what cal. ? 9mm .40? Me: No Sir G29 10mm Trooper : well I guess that will put the bad guy on his ass!! ME: Yes Sir I hope He tells me to hold on a min then comes back and tells me that he really Appreciates me telling him upfront that I was carrying and that he was gonna just give me a verbal warning on speeding.. NO TICKET!! Not so sure how the stop would of went if I didn't tell him up front I was carrying and he found out when he radio me in ? I Was very surprised on the reply when I told him 10mm ! Lol. I was waiting for a why do you need such a Big cal. For ? We don't even carry those? Very happy over here!!

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[JSK]

As a Florida resident it's good to hear that some troopers are using common sense and have a good attitude. After all, with all these checkpoints technically in violation of the 4th Amendment, one does start to wonder.

When I took my CCW course, I was advised to share upfront with a trooper/officer that I was CCW if pulled over. Good to see that you did and all went well!

 

[versteckt]

+1 for a fellow Florida resident having a good experience, +10 for a G29!!!!

 

[guitargain]

Awesome, glad it turned out good for you.

 

[rayporsche]

Great ! gotta love Florida....... I've been stop too with similar results, LEOs are people too and they could usually tell the good guys from the bad guys. Also it does have a lot to do with how do you handle yourself during the stop.

 

[shane34652]

I got stoppped by a FHP once brought my gun back to his car. when he came back put it on the passanger seat and told me to load it while going down the road. He also said "I don't want you to be caught without it."

 

[NavyLCDR]

I got pulled over for going 15 mph over the speed limit. As soon as I saw the lights come on the parked sheriff car I pulled over on a side road, turned my hazard lights on and engine off. Had driver's license, insurance and registration ready when the officer pulled in behind me. Not a word was said about my permit or my gun by either one of us. He thanked me for not making him chase me down and for pulling onto a side street, off the busy main road. Gave me a verbal warning.

Great ! gotta love Florida....... I've been stop too with similar results, LEOs are people too and they could usually tell the good guys from the bad guys. Also it does have a lot to do with how do you handle yourself during the stop.

I agree...and it has little to do with whether you tell them about a gun you a lawfully carrying, unless state law requires it.

I got stoppped by a FHP once brought my gun back to his car. when he came back put it on the passanger seat and told me to load it while going down the road. He also said "I don't want you to be caught without it."

I find it much less likely that an officer will want to play with my gun if I just keep quiet about it.

 

[BC1]

News Flash... "A man locked himself inside his own house today. He has no weapons, no hostages has made no demands and no one is paying any attention at all." This is non-news. What did you expect would happen?

 

[mojoman]

Awesome encounter I haven't got pull over while carry but I will make it a habit to tell them up front. In my state you don't have to tell them but I have nothing to hide to me I'm okay with it.

 

[NavyLCDR]

Awesome encounter I haven't got pull over while carry but I will make it a habit to tell them up front. In my state you don't have to tell them but I have nothing to hide to me I'm okay with it.

Can I ask what you hope to gain by telling the officer about a legal possession that you are not required by law to tell them about?

 

[denverr1]

Can I ask what you hope to gain by telling the officer about a legal possession that you are not required by law to tell them about?

Well to tell you the truth ,that's the first time I ever was just given a warning for a stop .
And that was the first time I ever informed upfront that I had a permit and was carrying.
So maybe there is something to gain !

Just think that maybe
The officer knows you don't have to inform and when they run your name and find out themselves maybe it ticks them off alittle and they take it out on you
Should not be like that but Alls I know is I was nice enough to tell him and he was nice enough to give me a warning.! That's good for me

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[NavyLCDR]

Well to tell you the truth ,that's the first time I ever was just given a warning for a stop .
And that was the first time I ever informed upfront that I had a permit and was carrying.
So maybe there is something to gain !

Just think that maybe
The officer knows you don't have to inform and when they run your name and find out themselves maybe it ticks them off alittle and they take it out on you
Should not be like that but Alls I know is I was nice enough to tell him and he was nice enough to give me a warning.! That's good for me

Just think that maybe the officer that has you stopped is the type of officer that feels that only police officers should have guns. The safest place for my gun is in it's holster, with nobody touching it. I have never had an officer ask me about a firearm in more than a dozen traffic stops in 30 years. If they are concerned about my possession of a gun, all they have to do is ask. If I tell the officer about my gun, all I am doing is extending an invitation to that officer to remove my gun from it's holster and handle it needlessly placing myself, the officer, and innocent bystanders in more danger from a negligent discharge than if the gun was left alone.

Once the officer finds out from the dispatcher that I possess a valid permit for a gun, whether or not I tell about it first, the officer has just lost his LEGAL ability to disarm me "for officer safety" according to Terry v. Ohio US Supreme Court case. I simply will not offer an invitation to the officer to play with my gun and place us all in more danger by telling them about it in order to increase the chances of my getting out of a traffic ticket. I don't wear my gun to get out of traffic tickets, especially when to do so could place everyone at the scene at risk.

From Terry v. Ohio:
Terry v. Ohio

We merely hold today that, where a police officer observes unusual conduct which leads him reasonably to conclude in light of his experience that criminal activity may be afoot and that the persons with whom he is dealing may be armed and presently dangerous, where, in the course of investigating this behavior, he identifies himself as a policeman and makes reasonable inquiries, and where nothing in the initial stages of the encounter serves to dispel his reasonable fear for his own or others' safety, he is entitled for the protection of himself and others in the area to conduct a carefully limited search of the outer clothing of such persons in an attempt to discover weapons which might be used to assault him.

Once the officer determines and verifies that the subject possesses a VALID permit of a gun, that should be grounds (legally) to dispel his reasonable fear, especially if he did not ask the subject about a firearm during the initial stop. The only way for the officer to verify the permit is valid is to receive that information from the dispatcher. So, I'll just let him receive that information before the gun is mentioned. Unless state law requires notification.

 

[denverr1]

Just think that maybe the officer that has you stopped is the type of officer that feels that only police officers should have guns. The safest place for my gun is in it's holster, with nobody touching it. I have never had an officer ask me about a firearm in more than a dozen traffic stops in 30 years. If they are concerned about my possession of a gun, all they have to do is ask. If I tell the officer about my gun, all I am doing is extending an invitation to that officer to remove my gun from it's holster and handle it needlessly placing myself, the officer, and innocent bystanders in more danger from a negligent discharge than if the gun was left alone.

Once the officer finds out from the dispatcher that I possess a valid permit for a gun, whether or not I tell about it first, the officer has just lost his LEGAL ability to disarm me "for officer safety" according to Terry v. Ohio US Supreme Court case. I simply will not offer an invitation to the officer to play with my gun and place us all in more danger by telling them about it in order to increase the chances of my getting out of a traffic ticket. I don't wear my gun to get out of traffic tickets, especially when to do so could place everyone at the scene at risk.

From Terry v. Ohio:
Terry v. Ohio

Once the officer determines and verifies that the subject possesses a VALID permit of a gun, that should be grounds (legally) to dispel his reasonable fear, especially if he did not ask the subject about a firearm during the initial stop. The only way for the officer to verify the permit is valid is to receive that information from the dispatcher. So, I'll just let him receive that information before the gun is mentioned. Unless state law requires notification.

I agree
I never took out the firearm and he never asked me to see it or anything
When he seen the permit he ask if I was carrying now and I said yes sir
Then Alls he asked was what I carry and I told him glock 29 and he said "that should put the bad guy on his ass " Nd that's it
Never asked to see or anything
And if he did I would never take out a loaded firearm to hand over to anyone

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[NavyLCDR]

I agree
I never took out the firearm and he never asked me to see it or anything
When he seen the permit he ask if I was carrying now and I said yes sir
Then Alls he asked was what I carry and I told him glock 29 and he said "that should put the bad guy on his ass " Nd that's it
Never asked to see or anything
And if he did I would never take out a loaded firearm to hand over to anyone

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My point is that you gave him the legal opportunity to disarm you - some officers will take advantage of that legal opportunity to take your gun from you and also use that opportunity to run the serial number of the gun to check if it is stolen - and some officers won't. Since I don't know which type of officer is at my window, I won't offer to them the legal opportunity to disarm me, if they are concerned about a firearm, all they have to do ask.

 

[zeebea]

I have let more than one cop know I was carrying when stopped. One actually disarmed me but none issued me a ticket. Giving the cop my gun was un nerving and it would not happen again, but when the cop sees that you are a licensed carrier I think it puts them at more ease knowing you are most likely not a threat. That in turn makes them not as likely to muck up your pretty driving record. If you don't want to let them know, don't. There is a chance you are going to get the fienstien of cops but I never have. I have and will, if needed use my ltc as a tool just like the gun. If nothing else it starts a conversation that opens up the possibility of talking your way out of it.

 

[NavyLCDR]

One actually disarmed me. There is a chance you are going to get the fienstien of cops but I never have.

Those two statements in your story contradict each other.

Giving the cop my gun was un nerving and it would not happen again,

How do you propose to stop the officer if they want to disarm you?

 

[91wm6]

I've never heard of a Glock Trooper...

 

[Kramer1113]

I live in Citrus County Florida. If and When I get pulled over my intent is to follow this blueprint.

 

[kelcarry]

OK heap it on me. When I am in my car and I am CC, I am not the same person I am when I am not CC. Call it hypocritical--fine. I call it a higher sense of responsibilty--I am taking advantage of a permissive action given to me by the State of SC and I feel a responsibilty for that permission over and beyond the permission given to me with a driving license; that "over and beyond" includes the avoidance of any potential conflict with LEOs and road ragers when I am driving; by obeying the law and and the speed limit, I have minimized the potential for being "pulled over" which, in many of these replies, seems to be something to be proud of. I find it irresponsible, infantile and dangerous.

 

[NavyLCDR]

I am taking advantage of a permissive action given to me by the State of SC and I feel a responsibilty for that permission over and beyond the permission given to me with a driving license;

You do understand that statistically the vehicle is a more dangerous weapon than the gun is, right? Also, think about this. If you lose your gun permit, how much affect does that have on your daily life? Will you still go to work? Will you still go to the grocery store? Will you still take part in recreational activities? But, how much would your daily life be affected by losing your driver's license?

You seem to have swallowed hook, line and sinker the propaganda that the government and anti-gun groups have pushed at you that carrying a gun is some super-special action that only a special, elite group of people should be allowed to engage in.