PTSD Diagnosis on Driver's Licenses

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FOXNews.com - Veterans Blast Georgia Bill to Put PTSD Diagnosis on Driver's Licenses


Veterans groups are blasting Georgia lawmakers for passing legislation that would allow a diagnosis of post-traumatic stress disorder to appear on driver's licenses.

The legislation, which awaits Gov. Sonny Purdue's signature, would permit servicemembers and veterans to request a PTSD denotation, which would appear on their driver's licenses as a specific health problem, much like poor eyesight.

PTSD is an anxiety disorder that can occur after a traumatic event, including sexual assault, physical assault and military combat. Symptoms include vivid flashbacks to the traumatic event, depression and substance abuse, among others. Up to 20 percent of veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars suffer from PTSD, according to the Department of Veterans Affairs.

The bill would require a sworn statement from a physician verifying a diagnosis of PTSD and a waiver of liability for the release of the driver's medical information.

State Sen. Ron Ramsey, who co-sponsored the bill, says he sees no downside to the measure. In a statement to FoxNews.com, Ramsey, a Democrat, said the "completely voluntary" legislation may protect law enforcement officers and veterans from potentially dangerous situations.

"For example if a veteran suffering from PTSD was pulled over for a simple traffic violation, a designation on the license explaining the circumstances could inform an officer that the situation should be handled cautiously," the statement read. "If a veteran does not feel it is necessary to designate this on their license, then they do not have to. Again, it is entirely voluntary."

The bill's co-sponsor, State Sen. John Douglas, a Republican is an Army veteran who has also said the bill might encourage safer encounters between people with PTSD and law enforcement officials.

But veterans organizations contacted by FoxNews.com described the legislation as a "terrible idea."

Ryan Gallucci, a spokesman for AMVETS, a national organization representing 200,000 veterans, said the legislation puts veterans at risk of discrimination, even though the PTSD denotation would be voluntary.

He pointed out that driver's licenses are used for identification purposes that go far beyond encounters with police officers.

"Bar owners, liquor store owners could easily refuse service if they saw in black and white that a customer suffered from a mental illness -- even if it's service related," Gallucci wrote in an e-mail to FoxNews.com. "We already see enough negatives in how the public perceives today's veterans when it comes to mental health."

And he noted that all citizens -- veterans or otherwise -- have the opportunity to explain any medical condition to a judge when fighting a ticket.

"The police have an obligation to maintain order -- it doesn't matter why someone's breaking the law," Gallucci wrote. "Even with traffic tickets, you are entitled to your day in court. What AMVETS prefers to see are the veterans' courts we've seen spring up around the country designated to handle veterans' cases within the unique context of their experiences."

Marvin Myers, president of the Georgia Vietnam Veterans Alliance Inc., said he could think of no situation where a veteran would want to disclose his or her medical condition, including traffic stops.

"I don't understand the logic behind it whatsoever," he told FoxNews.com. "Why someone would voluntarily put this out there, I'm not sure."

He said he, too, was concerned of potential discrimination against veterans with PTSD.

"What happens if Jerry Smith has PTSD on his driver's license and he goes into a gun store? The clerk is going to say, 'Oh no, I'm not selling you that gun,'" Myers said. "I just think you open up Pandora's box. You're disclosing too much of yourself."

Myers acknowledged that the PTSD designation on a license could garner sympathy from law enforcement officials in some instances, but he said other members of his organization agreed that the legislation was misguided.

The Department of Veterans Affairs declined to comment when asked if it endorsed the legislation. Brian Zeringue, a spokesman for Georgia's Department of Veterans Service, said the agency had no objection to the law as long as the decision to include personal medical information on a driver's license is "left entirely up to" the veteran.

Chris Schrimpf, a spokesman for Purdue, said the Republican governor has not decided whether to sign the bill. A final decision will be made by June 8, he said.

Gordy Wright, a spokesman for Georgia State Patrol, said the PTSD designation, if signed into law, would give officers a visible alert to "be on guard" and more aware of potentially threatening actions.

"There would be an explanation to account for it," he said. "It can be a positive step for a positive outcome."

Wright insisted that drivers with the PTSD designation would not receive leniency.

"More or less, it's so the officer is aware of the condition and be alert for any sudden actions or movements," he said. "Never say never, but we would expect Georgia state troopers to conduct the traffic stop in a professional manner."
 
What a can of worms if this is signed into law! It sounds like GA is trying to adjudicate PTSD by circumventing the law. If Sonny Purdue is smart he'll distance himself from this bill and veto it! GA like SC has a lot of veterans that vote!
 
If this truly is to help the veterans in some way... why put it on a drivers license? why not put it on the VA id card or, create a ptsd card that a vet can voluntarily give to someone.
 
I cannot believe this will stand a court challenge but am even more sickened that a legislator would sponsor or vote for this bill and possibly win a subsequent re-election. :bad:
 
Looks like a bad idea but it also appears to be voluntary. Look at this statement:

"The legislation, which awaits Gov. Sonny Purdue's signature, would permit servicemembers and veterans to request a PTSD denotation, which would appear on their driver's licenses as a specific health problem, much like poor eyesight."

Why anyone would want to volunteer that info is beyond me but if they think it will help them, and it is truly voluntary, then why not allow them to do it?
 
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:no: This shouldn't get off the floor in any state, but the way I read the article, if it becomes a law in Ga. participation qould be voluntary(?). (Why would someone want their state's DMV to put that on their drivers license?) And no, it isn't violating any HIPPA Oath for Doctors!
 
How much more discrimination are we willing to take? As a Vietnam vet I felt the anger from people when I returned home. I have spent the last 42 years in rehab from my wounds and no one has done any thing to make my life easier.
This is another try at pointing the finger at us and culling us from the "NORMAL" crowd of people.
 
I would think that would violate the right to medical privacy act.
Let's hope that enough people raise hell and get it quashed before it becomes law.

It's just like the Body Mass Index and sleep apnea restricting Commercial Drivers License and aircraft operators licenses.
If you have a medical condition that might make you black out with a truck or plane load of explosives or dangerous chemicals,
You should be doing something else for a living or getting treatment for your issues.

I DO NOT think your medical issues should be advertised on drivers licences, but for the greater good, some people shouldn't own firearms or drive explosives/chemicals around...

On the other hand, PTSD should be reported to ATF or who ever does the background checks for the purchase of firearms.
Same a any metal disability that might lead to disqualification for owning firearms.
Someone with rage or mental instability/illness issues shouldn't own firearms.
 
:no: This shouldn't get off the floor in any state, but the way I read the article, if it becomes a law in Ga. participation qould be voluntary(?). (Why would someone want their state's DMV to put that on their drivers license?) And no, it isn't violating any HIPPA Oath for Doctors!

HIPAA is not the Doctor's Oath it is the Health Information Portability & Accountability Act of 1996. The HIPAA Privacy Rule provides federal protections for personal health information held by covered entities and gives patients an array of rights with respect to that information. At the same time, the Privacy Rule is balanced so that it permits the disclosure of personal health information needed for patient care and other important purposes.
 

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