Pro-Gun Crowd Finally Speaks Out!

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I just received an email alert regarding a brilliant new tactic for PRO-GUN measures in Washington D.C.

Senator Lee is attempting to add an ammendment to the existing budget resolution which would force all senators to reveal their gun rights stance. In short, the resolution would effectively force a 2/3rd majority vote in order to pass any anti-gun bills (not a simply majority). Wahoo!

It's not the proverbial silver bullet, but it would certainly deflate Feinstein's efforts.

Senator Lee to Offer Amendment Tonight to Ban Most Gun Control in the Senate - Gun Owners of America
 
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Ya,,, I saw this and already emailed my senators. I was going to post it as well, but I got busy at work. Thanks for putting it out here.
 
Hope this pulls the rug out from under the gun grabbers

Just got the email, sounds like this could derail some of the gun grabbers plans!
Call your reps right now!
 
it would be nice if they would add an amendment that would make a concealed weapons permit like a drivers license, valid in every state.
 
I think they should attach a constitutional carry ammendment to a universal background check bill. That wiy IF it indeed would pass we would automatically be allowed to CC.
 
apvbguy said:
it would be nice if they would add an amendment that would make a concealed weapons permit like a drivers license, valid in every state.
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It would be nice if they made a concealed weapons permit like a gun ban...unconstitutional.
 
I'm not interested in universal backgound checks. Aside from being a back-door to registration, I see it as a waste of tax dollars and completely unenforceable in any meaningful capacity.

Even more, I'd actually like to see my carry permit serve as an automatic exemption from the checks that they run today. I paid a fee to apply for my CHL. That fee was to help cover the cost of processing. In addition to being finger printed, a more thorough background check than what is required for gun sales was completed in order to issue the permit. Anything that would disqualify me from being able to buy a gun would also cause my permit to be revoked, therefore, a valid CHL should be a more than adequate substitute for the one-off instant checks that are performed on purchases from dealers.

-SF
 
SlyFerret said:
I'm not interested in universal backgound checks. Aside from being a back-door to registration, I see it as a waste of tax dollars and completely unenforceable in any meaningful capacity.

Even more, I'd actually like to see my carry permit serve as an automatic exemption from the checks that they run today. I paid a fee to apply for my CHL. That fee was to help cover the cost of processing. In addition to being finger printed, a more thorough background check than what is required for gun sales was completed in order to issue the permit. Anything that would disqualify me from being able to buy a gun would also cause my permit to be revoked, therefore, a valid CHL should be a more than adequate substitute for the one-off instant checks that are performed on purchases from dealers.

-SF
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I think what you're saying makes sense. But not everyone has a concealed carry permit.
I'd like to see everyone that wants to buy guns, have a background check & then be issued a card,
like a D.L. or CPL. Once you have the BGC done once, & get the card, there would be no more reason to use the NICS.
Cards could be re-newed just like carry permits.
No registration, no confiscation. They wouldn't have to know WHAT you bought. Could be used for ammo as well.
Just a thought. If something IS coming, I think this would be a better way than having to get a BGC for every purchase.
Would make private selling easy. Show your card & you're good to go. No card, no sale.
I know there are some here that will not like this idea, but I'm just thinking out loud here, so don't beat me up!
 
missoak said:
SlyFerret said:
I'm not interested in universal backgound checks. Aside from being a back-door to registration, I see it as a waste of tax dollars and completely unenforceable in any meaningful capacity.

Even more, I'd actually like to see my carry permit serve as an automatic exemption from the checks that they run today. I paid a fee to apply for my CHL. That fee was to help cover the cost of processing. In addition to being finger printed, a more thorough background check than what is required for gun sales was completed in order to issue the permit. Anything that would disqualify me from being able to buy a gun would also cause my permit to be revoked, therefore, a valid CHL should be a more than adequate substitute for the one-off instant checks that are performed on purchases from dealers.

-SF
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I think what you're saying makes sense. But not everyone has a concealed carry permit.
I'd like to see everyone that wants to buy guns, have a background check & then be issued a card,
like a D.L. or CPL. Once you have the BGC done once, & get the card, there would be no more reason to use the NICS.
Cards could be re-newed just like carry permits.
No registration, no confiscation. They wouldn't have to know WHAT you bought. Could be used for ammo as well.
Just a thought. If something IS coming, I think this would be a better way than having to get a BGC for every purchase.
Would make private selling easy. Show your card & you're good to go. No card, no sale.
I know there are some here that will not like this idea, but I'm just thinking out loud here, so don't beat me up!
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Good idea in theory, however with private sales, how would you prove that the person checked for the card? You would either go off the honor system (pretty much what we have now) or require the person to document each sale and card check (pretty much what the libs are wanting). The only way to remain Constitutional by the wording of the 2nd Amendment is to allow the unrestricted flow of firearms among private sales, and to also allow individuals who are eligible to purchase guns to own virtually any type of firearm they so desire...within reason of course. I don't wanna hear the BS you always here from Democrats, "so a person should be able to own a nuclear bomb?!" Let's not just be a moron here.

Now, when someone commits a crime with those guns, don't blame the 2nd amendment, don't blame or punish all responsible, law-abiding gun owners. Take the offender and punish him accordingly. In the cases such as Sandy Hook or Aurora...you know, the cases the Dems like to use in their favor...if you capture them alive, put their asses 6 feet under and never utter their names or their deeds ever again, unless in remembrance of the victims. If they take their own lives, then do the same. Everyone always wants someone or something to punish (especially in the cases where they take their only lives), but the reality is that cant always happen. Sometimes you just have to accept things as they are and move on. The guns are not to blame!
 
I would think a very strong penalty for not following the process would be a deterrent.
If you sold a gun to someone without a card, that is.
There is no easy solution to keeping guns out of the wrong hands.
Just thinking this could be an alternative from what the DEMS want.
Here in Mi., we have to get a Permit to Purchase ( with a NICS check), or have a CPL
to buy a handgun. Seems to work pretty good for me. But it is registration also, since a
copy has to be forwarded to the MSP.
I will not sell a handgun without one or the other.
 
missoak said:
I would think a very strong penalty for not following the process would be a deterrent.
If you sold a gun to someone without a card, that is.
There is no easy solution to keeping guns out of the wrong hands.
Just thinking this could be an alternative from what the DEMS want.
Here in Mi., we have to get a Permit to Purchase ( with a NICS check), or have a CPL
to buy a handgun. Seems to work pretty good for me. But it is registration also, since a
copy has to be forwarded to the MSP.
I will not sell a handgun without one or the other.
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But in order to prove that you sold the gun to someone with a "card", you would be required to document it, and have proof for the gov't to see if they want to know where all your guns are. That is registration.
 
Let's not forget, there are currently laws on the books that are not enforced that would curb some of this violence. Yet the gun grabbing crowd would lead you to believe we are a lawless society when it comes to guns. How many laws were ignored with Fast & Furious? How many laws were ignored in Sandy Hook? How many laws were ignored in Aurora? The left has no interest in curbing violent crime. Listen to them talk and watch what they do. Their only interest is to control the citizens. You can't do that if they have the means to defend themselves. Until we wake up to this the low information voter and good time rock and roll, I care more than you do, liberal politicians will rule the day.
 
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