Political Fallout


Oldgrunt

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This is another good email I received from a friend. I cannot attest to the authenticity of the statements made but it is a good read.


WEINER FALLOUT

This is really something to read........scary........and that puts it mildly!!

*The fallout from the Anthony Weiner fiasco includes a mystery no one yet has resolved, especially the media which is ignoring it like the plague. Make that: Two mysteries*

*Mystery # 1. How is it that Anthony Weiner, a Jew, married a devout Muslim woman, and vice-versa?* [NOTE: This is a very serious violation of sharia law!]

*Mystery #2. How is it that a devout Muslim woman with strong ties to the notorious Muslim Brotherhood is working within a trusted position in the highest levels of the Department of State? [NOTE: The credo of the Muslim Brotherhood is: "God is our purpose, the Prophet our leader, the Qur'an our constitution, Jihad our way and dying for God's cause our supreme objective."]

*Here are the facts as we know them:*

*1 - Anthony Weiner, a Jewish U.S. Congressman from New York, (now resigned) married Huma Abedin, a practicing Muslim woman, in 2010.

Ex-President Bill Clinton officiated.*

*2 - Huma Abedin was born in Michigan, but grew up in Saudi Arabia, the daughter of devout Muslim parents. She was later educated in the U.S.
and remains a devout, practicing Muslim.*

*3 - At age 20, Huma Abedin started working as a White House assistant to then first lady, Hillary Clinton in 1996, and has been by Mrs. Clinton's side ever since. She now holds the position of Aide and Deputy Chief of Staff to Sec. Hillary Clinton in the State Department.*

*4 - According to numerous sources, which has not been denied or refuted, the mother of Huma Abedin - a Pakistani - is a member of the Muslim Sisterhood, or, the women's division of the MuslimBrotherhood.*

*5 - Huma Abedin's brother is a fellow with the Oxford Centre For Islamic Studies, which is heavily supported by the Muslim Brotherhood.*

*6 - Islamic scholars and experts confirm that no Muslim woman - especially devout Muslims and members of the sisterhood - may marry a non-Muslim man, yet a Jew, unless that man has converted to Islam.*

*7 - It is well known, especially in intelligence circles including the CIA and the FBI, that the Muslim Brotherhood is the most notorious global, anti-American, jihadist organization in the world, with long range sights set upon establishing an Islamic caliphate in the west. (That means, converting America into an Islamic nation, folks). According to their own documents - authored by the highest levels in the MB - America is destined to be settled as an Islamic nation, and that it will use deceit and infiltration to accomplish this goal from within.*

*FROM WITHIN!*

*Readers tend to gloss over this, but it is as important as Mein Kampf was to the burgeoning Nazi movement in 1930s Germany that so many ignored.. You've read it before. Here, again, is their language taken from the Muslim Brotherhood manifesto, introduced at the Holy Land Foundation trial:*

*The process of settlement is a "Civilization-Jihadist Process" with all the means. The Ikhwan [Muslim Brotherhood] must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and "sabotaging" its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and Allah's religion is made victorious."*

*Conclusions:*

** The Muslim Brotherhood - or its affiliations - has infiltrated the highest levels of our government.*

** Hillary Clinton is either in denial, stupid, naive or complicit in having such a person with ties to the MB working within the highest levels of the State Department. That goes for the president as well.*

** There is certainly more to the story of the Weiner wedding, which we don't know about. If Anthony Weiner, in fact, converted to Islam,
it was done surreptitiously because it would have been a death knell to his political career. And, if so, Weiner certainly knew of the Muslim Brotherhood connections of his wife.*

** If the Islamic community has approved of, or ignores the marriage between Jewish born Weiner and Huma Abedin, it can be logically concluded that they - the Islamic community - know something we don't. An Imam from the Islamic Cultural center of New York, Omar Abu-Namous, not only approved of the union, he has encouraged Huma Abedin to stand by her man during the cybersex scandal. Thus, it must be advantageous to the goals of Islamic jihad and the MB to have Huma Abedin inside the bowels of
the Department of State with daily access to governmental intelligence. Therefore, her "marriage" to a U.S. congressman, regardless of religion, was openly accepted.*

*That, folks, is an example of "Taqiyya" which I've often written about. Taqiyya is the Islamic equivalent to using lies, deceit and concealment in order to advance the cause of spreading Islam.

The 9/11 al Qaeda terrorists blended with American society for months prior to the deadly attack, drinking alcohol, carousing with women and eating pork, in order to conceal who they truly were, in order to carry out their mission.*

*Their mission was to infiltrate and kill. The mission of the Muslim Brotherhood is to infiltrate and conquer, even if it takes 100 years.
In the Muslim Brotherhood planning document, "The Project," it clearly states - among their strategies:* ** Maintain the appearance of moderation* ** Use deception to mask the intended goals of Islamic Action* *We know about these things, the government knows about these things, the highest of officials know, yet they are inexplicably ignored.*

*Forget about the war in Afghanistan and Iraq. We are losing the war right here. And our government is helping.*
 

Sounds like conspiracy hogwash to me.

"How is it that a devout Muslim woman with strong ties to the notorious Muslim Brotherhood" without actually identifying any "strong ties". (Not to mention the definition of "devout Muslim woman" can vary significantly. The fact that she married a Jewish man is proof that she can't be devoutly following the more strict variants of Islam. Just as I'm a devout follower of a liberal Christian denomination. I'm no less "devout" to my denomination than an Amish man is to his; or a hard-core conservative Baptist is to his.)

One could say that George W. Bush had "strong ties" to the Saudis government, which was notorious for supporting Osama Bin Laden! That doesn't mean he had anything to do with anything.
 

Oldgrunt

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Ed: Spoken like a true Democrat. Did you notice that their marriage was approved by an Imam? What was their motivation there? There are too many incongruities here for me to not wonder if something nefarious could be afoot. Judge that for yourself. By the way, why is it when something comes out about Democrats it is always called a "conspiracy?"
 
"9/11 conspiracy" wasn't about Democrats. The "conspiracy" that the Republican party is run by corporations isn't about Democrats. (And no, I don't believe either of them.)

Approved by an Imam? I bet it was approved by a Rabbi, too. Just as my marriage was approved by a Pastor. So? Who said the Imam was a "radical Islamist"?
 

Oldgrunt

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"9/11 conspiracy" wasn't about Democrats. The "conspiracy" that the Republican party is run by corporations isn't about Democrats. (And no, I don't believe either of them.)

Approved by an Imam? I bet it was approved by a Rabbi, too. Just as my marriage was approved by a Pastor. So? Who said the Imam was a "radical Islamist"?

Ed: I am trying to follow your line of thought but I am having a little difficulty in figuring out what you mean. No one said that 9/11 was a conspiracy about Democrats nor that the Republican party is run by large corporations. As for the marriage, I don't doubt that it was approved by a rabbi also. As for the Imam, Muslims and Jews are like oil and water. This is a strange pairing considering the religious differences. Sharia law supposedly forbids such a union. It is also strange that the woman, given her connections with Islam, is in the position of being on the staff of the Secretary of State. If you don't consider that odd, you must have been reading something other than the political news for the last few years. Very insidiously, our government is being infiltrated by Muslims and, before you know it, the US may be declared a Muslim country. You don't have to believe that if you don't want, however, if and when it happens, you can't say you weren't aware beforehand. Rather than take offense about what was written in the email, do a little research for yourself and see if you can disprove what was said. I did and can't fault the writer for inaccuracies.
 

wooddoctor

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"9/11 conspiracy" wasn't about Democrats. The "conspiracy" that the Republican party is run by corporations isn't about Democrats. (And no, I don't believe either of them.)

Approved by an Imam? I bet it was approved by a Rabbi, too. Just as my marriage was approved by a Pastor. So? Who said the Imam was a "radical Islamist"?

Ed, more range time for you. Your starting to show your butt.
 

G50AE

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As for the Imam, Muslims and Jews are like oil and water. This is a strange pairing considering the religious differences.

Actually no, the two religions have an aweful lot of similarities.

-Jews follow Kosher dietary restriction, Muslims folow Halal dietary restrictions. Both of which are similar, no animal blood, no shell fish (Shi'ites make exceptions for lobster and crab), no pork, and no eating of dead animals. The reason for these dietary restrictions have to do with the fact that both of these religions were invented before refrigeration, pasturization, or means to identify trichinosis.
-Both religions are monotheistic.
-Both religions accept the Old Testament as Cannonically valid, in addition Muslims accept the New Testament and the Qu'ran as cannonically valid.
-Both religions practice tithing and prayer.

The list goes on.

Sharia law supposedly forbids such a union.

Actually no. One of the teachings of Islam is that Christians and Jews practice primative forms of Islam and should be shown patience and benevolence while being educated in the ways of Islam.
 
And, as I said, there are plenty of moderate-to-liberal Islamic followers, including Imams. ESPECIALLY in the U.S. Would an Imam in Saudi Arabia have approved this marriage? Hell no. Would a Catholic priest in Mexico have approved my marriage to my Lutheran wife? Hell no. But my old Catholic priest approved of my marriage just fine; even though it wasn't in a Catholic church. (Which means it's not recognized by the Catholic Church.)

My other point was that you said "why is it when something comes out about Democrats it is always called a "conspiracy?"" Technically, what you have posted is suggesting a conspiracy. Just because it's called a conspiracy doesn't mean it's false, after all. (See: The conspiracy to overthrow Hitler, Watergate, the Tuskegee syphilis study.) I call *THIS* one conspiracy hogwash. As in: A theory of a conspiracy that is more likely than not false; the conspiracy invented for political reasons.

The 9/11 conspiracy theory I'm talking about is the one that claims that the buildings were all controlled demolitioned, that no actual hijacked aircraft crashed into them, that it was all done by George W. Bush as a pretext to go to war. I find that conspiracy theory as much hogwash as this one. Just as I find the "we never landed on the moon" conspiracy theory hogwash. Just as I don't believe the conspiracy theory held by some extremist left-wingers that the Republican party is really just a front for large corporations. (Or, as one nutty acquaintance of mine thought: that George W. Bush would declare martial law and become dictator of the US with the consent of the military-industrial complex. Yeah; we don't talk much, he's nuts in believing goofy conspiracy theories.)
 

Booga

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I love analyzing things like this.

Point 1: Anthony Weiner married Huma Abedin: True.
Point 2: Huma Abedin was born in Michigan, but grew up in Saudi Arabia and she went through George Washington University in the U.S.: True
Point 3: Huma Abedin started her political career as a White House assistant to first lady Hillary Clinton in 1996. She currently holds the position of aide and Deputy Chief of Staff to Sec. Hillary Clinton in the State Department: True
Point 4: Her mother is a member of the Muslim Sisterhood, the women's division of the Muslim Brotherhood: No conflicting information found, probably true.
Point 5a: Her brother is a fellow with the Oxford Centre For Islamic Studies: True
Point 5b: ...which is heavily supported by the Muslim Brotherhood: unknown, but possibly irrelevant.
Point 6: No Muslim woman - especially devout Muslims and members of the sisterhood(which Huma has not been confirmed as a member of...) - may marry a non-Muslim man, yet a Jew, unless that man has converted to Islam: False. Not every Muslim adheres to the same set of sharia law.
Point 7: The Muslim Brotherhood has a goal of establishing an Islamic caliphate in the west: Unknown. They do promote laws based on the Koran, but they do not promote jihad. In fact, Osama bin Laden chastised them for betraying jihad. The Islamic Brotherhood does not support all sharia laws. For example, they do not support the laws that force women to cover themselves with specific clothing.

Further review not explicitly covered in the points above:
Anthony Weiner is Jewish: True
Huma Abedin is Muslim: True
Bill Clinton officiated the wedding: True
Huma Abedin has strong ties to the Muslim Brotherhood: Unlikely(there are insinuations some family members may have ties to them, but nothing that could be found regarding her directly.)
Anthony Weiner converted to Islam: Unlikely(explained below)

In Islamic law, a Muslim must officiate a marriage ceremony; hence if Bill Clinton was the only one officiating, the marriage was not valid according to Islamic law. Huma Abedin would have undoubtedly known that. Thus, since no Muslim was officiating along with Clinton, Weiner would not have had to convert to Islam, as the whole thing was a charade to begin with, apparently everyone entered into the ceremony with full understanding.

Thus, it's a marriage of convenience meant to further political careers. Nothing more.
 

BC1

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He said "Weiner!" :biggrin::sarcastic::laugh:

Truthfully, Weiner has proven time and again that he's a "weiner."
 

Oldgrunt

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Here is an article from Newsmax that might give a little enlightenment to the dangers that are now facing us. Once pointed out, it is up to the reader to either believe or disbelieve what is written. However, as written by Judge Learned Hand; "All discussion, all debate, all dissidence tends to question, and in consequence, to upset existing convictions; that is precisely its purpose and its justification." I find that to be rather apropos in this thread.



Home | Frank Gaffney Tags: War on Terrorism | Homeland Security | Hillary Clinton | Shariah | Muslim | Brotherhood | OIC Shariah Law a Real Danger to the US
Tuesday, 30 Aug 2011 03:31 PM

By Frank Gaffney

More ways to share... Mixx Stumbled LinkedIn Vine Buzzflash Reddit Delicious Newstrust Technocrati Share: More . . . A A | Email Us | Print | Forward Article In recent weeks, we have been put on notice repeatedly: Absent a fundamental course correction, America will go the way of Europe and others before it, succumbing to an insidious totalitarian doctrine known as Shariah whose purpose, in the words of its prime practitioners — the Muslim Brotherhood (MB) — is to "destroy Western civilization from within."

Hurricanes, earthquakes, and fiscal crises are preoccupations of the moment. Unless we heed the warnings being issued by three of our most brilliant strategic thinkers, Mark Steyn, Bat Ye'or, and Andrew McCarthy, however, we risk an irreversible national calamity.

Each of these authors has published in the past month powerful alarms about the steady erosion of the West's societies, governing institutions, and freedoms at the hands of Shariah's adherents and their enablers on the left.

Mark Steyn released After America: Get Ready for Armaggedon, a much-awaited sequel to his best-seller, America Alone: The End of the World as We Know It.

Bat Ye'or — who popularized the terms "Eurabia" and "dhimmitude" to describe what is befalling the Europeans at the hands of those seeking, in accordance with Shariah, to subjugate all nonbelievers as enslaved "dhimmis" — published Europe, Globalization and the Coming Universal Caliphate.

And just last week, Andy McCarthy, author of The Grand Jihad: How Islam and the Left Sabotage America, wrote a brilliant column for National Review Online, "Losing Malmo, and Brussels and Rome and Amsterdam."

A consistent theme of these three important works is that we run grave risks in taking for granted the permanence of a world order dominated by liberal democracies and led by the United States.

Yet, we are doing so even as evidence accumulates that Islamists, led by the Muslim Brotherhood and the 57-member Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC), are making steady strides toward their goal of establishing a new, transnational order.

They would have it take the form of a global "caliphate," in which the world will be ruled in accordance with Shariah.

Sounds crazy? It may be. But if history teaches us anything, it is that determined, disciplined and ruthless people can do incalculable harm to others in the pursuit of crazy, supremacist goals.

What is truly crazy, though, is the role being played today by "progressive" elites that doing today what they have done in the face of totalitarians of the past: facilitating the latters' frightening ambitions.

I have had the privilege of interviewing each of these three authors over the past few weeks on Secure Freedom Radio and the message could not be more clear: We persist in such behavior at our extreme peril.

Of particular concern is the corrosive effect of the phenomenon known by such names as "transnationalism," "multiculturalism," and "globalization." For many in Europe, it has become effectively a new religion, contributing to the precipitous decline of Christianity.

To paraphrase Karl Marx, this post-modern, post-national program provides a kind of opiate that numbs the masses to the dangers of acquiescing to the Muslim Brotherhood's "civilization jihad."

European nations are now increasingly reaping the whirlwind thus sown. Of particular concern are what are known as "no-go zones" — areas where the authorities dare not enter. These are becoming increasingly common across the continent and in the U.K. as Muslim-populated enclaves apply Shariah law and drive out those who do not conform.

These zones are the direct result of accommodations made in the name of "diversity" and "sensitivity" to Islamic religio-cultural norms, read the supremacist doctrine of Shariah.

European leaders are beginning publicly to renounce such practices but their governments have yet to act accordingly.

Make no mistake. If we fail to heed the warnings of Mark Steyn, Bat Ye'or, and Andy McCarthy, a similar fate awaits us. Already, the U.S. government has been engaged in serial acts of appeasement of Muslim Brotherhood fronts and other Shariah adherents.

These include: a Director of National Intelligence who admits to relying on such groups to provide "advice, counsel, and wisdom" about "extremists" in their midst; White House direction that all government-funded counterterrorism training will be conducted in accordance with direction of a Department of Homeland Security deeply compromised by the Brotherhood; a new Obama "strategy" for local law enforcement that requires "partnering" with what amount to enemy front organizations; and a Hillary Clinton-engineered initiative with the OIC aimed at curbing expression that can have negative "consequences" for Muslims.

In the face of such folly, members of Congress and private citizens are striving not merely to halt these and other examples of reckless official "engagement" with the Muslim Brotherhood; they are beginning to roll back the MB.

With the leadership of two freshmen congressmen, Reps. John Duncan, R-S.C., and Paul Gosar, R-Ariz., the House of Representatives has adopted amendments aimed at denying any taxpayer funding to the Brotherhood.

These and similar initiatives by citizens across the nation are being profiled at a new website sponsored by the Center for Security Policy: TheRollback.org. Their stories serve as a powerful inspiration and as impetuses for similar efforts by others.

It is past time for Americans to awaken to the danger posed by Shariah and its adherents. We can no longer ignore the inroads made by these forces into Western civilization's European flank.

And we certainly cannot delude ourselves into believing that our homeland will remain immune from their predations as long as we persist in the same sorts of appeasement that have brought our friends and allies across the Atlantic to their present, parlous state.

Frank J. Gaffney Jr. is president of the Center for Security Policy (Center For Security Policy), a columnist for the Washington Times and host of the nationally syndicated program, Secure Freedom Radio, heard in Washington weeknights at 9:00 p.m. on WRC 1260 AM.







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