Police Aim to Crack Down on Violent New Trend, 'Knock Out'

Yeah I am sure the police really plan on a crack down...NOT!! The cops could care less about private citizens. Trust me carry a handgun and if you feel your life or family member is in real danger. Draw and shoot to kill and don't stop shooting till the threat is no longer.
 
So if they do it to look tough, what would happen if they charged me and I blew his nuts all over the street?

"Oh snap tyrell is a ***** now!"
 
Situational awareness may be better than a handgun in these situations, especially if your carry gun is a little pocket gun. The article says that one beating was done by a group of 12 people. Dont walk on dimly lit streets late at night, and dont walk by large groups of thugs, etc.
 
Deserteagle said:
Situational awareness may be better than a handgun in these situations, especially if your carry gun is a little pocket gun. The article says that one beating was done by a group of 12 people. Dont walk on dimly lit streets late at night, and dont walk by large groups of thugs, etc.
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Group of 12 thugs attacking me for no reason ~versus~ my Glock 27 -w- 9 rounds locked 'n' loaded + an additional backup magazine with 12-13 additional rounds...Hmmmm...Let me think...(Take out the first two attackers then watch the rest of them scatter.)
I like my odds! :)
 
The_Outlaw said:
Group of 12 thugs attacking me for no reason ~versus~ my Glock 27 -w- 9 rounds locked 'n' loaded + an additional backup magazine with 12-13 additional rounds...Hmmmm...Let me think...(Take out the first two attackers then watch the rest of them scatter.)
I like my odds! :)
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I agree you shoot a few quickly and only a stupid fool sticks around to see if they also get shot. I read this in a gun Mag a long time ago in the 60s when they had the riot in L.A.
He had a 9mm when he was attacked he shot three thugs quickly in their legs, the rest took off and he went quickly on his way.
He said just shoot a few and then get moving. I thought great advice.
 
The race part come in when you view the videos that have been posted.

The race part comes in when you race for the gun.

But I can see the scenario now. Gun owner walking to grocery store encounters a group of teens that suddenly charge toward said gun owner. Gun owner has the thought of these random attacks in the back of his mind so he reacts before they have the chance to jump said gun owner. Gun owners reaction time and aim are good enough to fatally drop 1 and the others run for their lives.

However, this group of kids run to the police and tell their story. They were all members of some club and were out for a walk/run and when they ran towards this guy on the street, all too late they discovered he was nut with a gun and he just started shooting. He killed poor Freddy!

As citizens, we are put into some very bad position if we choose to fight back or even worse if we decide to fight first. As gun owners and concealed carriers we have even more responsibility to make sure we get it right otherwise we ar the ones that land behind bars.

And I say concealed carrier because not too many thrill seeking gaggle of kids are going to swarm someone with a 1911 on their hip. At least I don't think they would. You never know with the idiots our schools are producing, but that for another thread.

Keep your head on a swivel. Avoid situations that don't feel good. Like it was said... situational awareness is the better percentage of keeping your butt out of a bad situation. I have no problem with crossing to the other side of the street or taking a different street to avoid a large gathering of youth to avoid the possibility of confrontation. Plus it's a good discovery tactic. Cross the street. If they follow, then I go on high alert.

IMHO of course! I can hear the macho arguments coming now. ;-0
 
Another good reason for citizens to arm themselves. We live in trouble times where the value of human life means nothing to some. Its not a race issue, it goes across the board. I refuse to be a willing victim! !!
 
Very short decision window.

The trick will be to identify a legitimate attack before getting disabled. It's going to be a very small window between enough certainty of attack to use deadly force and getting hit after which it may be too late, especially for somebody in the 70+ age group which seem to be the favored demographic for these suburban terrorists groups.

I think if one has his hand on the gun in a cost pocket, head on a swivel, and avoids getting hit first, there is some chance of getting through such an attack with out being crippled, but for someone like me, 70 years old, getting hit is bad news. At my age we don't heal quickly, and sometimes not at all.

I carry everyplace it's legal every day, but I'm not at all sure how I'd come out in an attack by one of these groups of 6 to 20 thugs.

This started several years ago in Las Vegas where they called it "swarming". A casino employee who was packing was attacked and because he had his back to a building was able to defend himself. In the open, or a parking lot where they can launch a coordinated attack from behind cars, it's going to be a tough thing to defend against.

The other side is mistakenly shooting a bunch of kids that weren't actually going to attack and that is a tragedy.

The window in which to take action with heavy penalty's for being wrong either way is probably no longer than a couple of seconds if that.

Fitch
 
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In another time and place many people learned a prayer. Any of you remember this one?

Good Lord, please let me take as many with me as I can if I must go. If you can't do that, at least give me one clear shot. Amen.
 
Big_Guns said:
In another time and place many people learned a prayer. Any of you remember this one?

Good Lord, please let me take as many with me as I can if I must go. If you can't do that, at least give me one clear shot. Amen.
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It's a pity we cannot repeatedly push the like button many times...I could have given you 100 likes....LOL
 
walt629 said:
The race part come in when you view the videos that have been posted.

The race part comes in when you race for the gun.

But I can see the scenario now. Gun owner walking to grocery store encounters a group of teens that suddenly charge toward said gun owner. Gun owner has the thought of these random attacks in the back of his mind so he reacts before they have the chance to jump said gun owner. Gun owners reaction time and aim are good enough to fatally drop 1 and the others run for their lives.

However, this group of kids run to the police and tell their story. They were all members of some club and were out for a walk/run and when they ran towards this guy on the street, all too late they discovered he was nut with a gun and he just started shooting. He killed poor Freddy!

As citizens, we are put into some very bad position if we choose to fight back or even worse if we decide to fight first. As gun owners and concealed carriers we have even more responsibility to make sure we get it right otherwise we ar the ones that land behind bars.

And I say concealed carrier because not too many thrill seeking gaggle of kids are going to swarm someone with a 1911 on their hip. At least I don't think they would. You never know with the idiots our schools are producing, but that for another thread.

Keep your head on a swivel. Avoid situations that don't feel good. Like it was said... situational awareness is the better percentage of keeping your butt out of a bad situation. I have no problem with crossing to the other side of the street or taking a different street to avoid a large gathering of youth to avoid the possibility of confrontation. Plus it's a good discovery tactic. Cross the street. If they follow, then I go on high alert.

IMHO of course! I can hear the macho arguments coming now. ;-0
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Macho arguments? What's to argue in this post?

In the article it says they look for easy targets and nobody seems to fight back. I hope I don't look like an easy target and I'll certainly fight back if I can't avoid the confrontation....
 
Rich_S said:
Macho arguments? What's to argue in this post?

In the article it says they look for easy targets and nobody seems to fight back. I hope I don't look like an easy target and I'll certainly fight back if I can't avoid the confrontation....
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Usually, after anyone make any kind of reference to retreating from threat, the macho men come out en mass and deride the poster about how 'they' would take the threat head on.

Personally, I learned early on to understand that discretion IS the better part of Valor, and I would just as soon avoid conflict, especially in the situations described in the OP.

Having said that, if the conflict described cannot be avoided by me, a gun will be involved somehow.
 
The key here is situational awareness. We are taught that an attacker can cover 7 yards in the time it takes us to aim and pull the trigger. These cases start at close range and the attacker just starts throwing punches according to the reports. Not much time to draw from concealment and fire a round, especially if you're trying to fend off blows to your head.
 
Treo:

I think you need a dose of reality.

Go to a local jail, local prison and tell me what the largest population (race) are confined...

Now must liberals will say that is because LEO profiles...

Those people are true idiots and are creating most of the problems by defending these maggots!
 
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