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[wizard]

I would pack my bags and tell them Why they are loosing my business forever, and that none of my co workers will be staying here in the future, Or friends! There is no reason for them to be asking any questions about your personal belongings, period. If they are that concerned I would tell them to call the police.

 

[GlockOwner]

The fact is, the hotel is a private business. They can place whatever requirements they like on renting a room to you, as long as the requirement doesn't violate civil rights laws. They can require you to wear plaid. They can require you to listen to disco music. So you can either comply with their request or find somewhere else to stay. Or you can argue with them, in which case they might advise you to leave or they might back off or they might call the police.

Being rude to them will only reinforce their belief that people who own guns are crazy and probably dangerous.

No Guns=No Money......vote with your ability, in a free country, to do business elsewhere....BTW, I am not wearing plaid and disagree that any business owner can make you wear anything of his/her choosing..

 

[Etkini]

No Guns=No Money......vote with your ability, in a free country, to do business elsewhere....BTW, I am not wearing plaid and disagree that any business owner can make you wear anything of his/her choosing..

I don't disagree with your first statement at all as I also follow it, however on private property in a private establishment the owner can choose to allow\not allow whatever he chooses without violating your civil rights. If they chose to allow only people wearing blue shirts and pink pants into their establishment, they have the right to but they'll obviously be losing a lot of money.

Think of the restaurant business.. some fine dining restaurants require you to wear suit and tie and won't serve people dressed otherwise. It's perfectly legal, and it happens - I've had first-hand experience with it, my second career is cooking. On the other hand, how many "no shirt, no shoes, no service" signs have you seen? It's the same exact thing.

 

[CharlesMorrison]

The fact is, the hotel is a private business. They can place whatever requirements they like on renting a room to you, as long as the requirement doesn't violate civil rights laws. They can require you to wear plaid. They can require you to listen to disco music. So you can either comply with their request or find somewhere else to stay. Or you can argue with them, in which case they might advise you to leave or they might back off or they might call the police.

Being rude to them will only reinforce their belief that people who own guns are crazy and probably dangerous.

Wear plaid?!?!

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[rev. dave]

The fact is, the hotel is a private business. They can place whatever requirements they like on renting a room to you, as long as the requirement doesn't violate civil rights laws. They can require you to wear plaid. They can require you to listen to disco music. So you can either comply with their request or find somewhere else to stay. Or you can argue with them, in which case they might advise you to leave or they might back off or they might call the police.

Being rude to them will only reinforce their belief that people who own guns are crazy and probably dangerous.

I might be wrong, not being a VA lawyer, but to my knowledge there is 'private' business and then there is private business. And the way I understand it is that businesses which cater to the public do not have the kind of rights described. Some of those would be groceries, restaurants and hotels. Because they make their business with the general public, always, they do have some limits on what they can require or not. Requirements on renting a room would seem to be the same as requirements on selling groceries or serving meals to a customer, and as I understand it those establishments can no more make you "wear plaid" than they can require you to wear a white skin.

Are any readers a lawyer? If so, how about some genuine contribution here? What does the law in Virginia say?

 

[rev. dave]

OK, for the benefit of all.... I read online yesterday that there is a current conference at the OMNI Hotel in Richmond, and it involves Hillary Clinton. I've already forgotten the exact subject - something about feds using social media I think - but it would be attended by lots of folks who carry weapons, as well as by Hillary. So, if our original poster for this thread is THERE, with Ms. Clinton in attendance, he or she is probably just experiencing a low level of 'heightened security' around the Secretary of State's presence. Of course, if in attendance, recoil357 is likely 'a fed' or some LE big-wig from somewhere, so we wouldn't have been told where they were or why. (They like secrets you know.) But, based on what I read, it's my guess that this is all about that conference and Hillary. I used to live and work near there, and the OMNI was a 'class establishment' where they didn't harass anyone for any reason, including rock stars with druggie entourages.

Now, recoil357, if you're there in Richmond for the conference, or even at the same time for other reasons, that may be the explanation, and it's probably a 'non-issue' - kind of like a lot of procedures you use in your daily work. If you're elsewhere in the state (e.g. VA Beach, or Salt Fork?) you can ignore this particular comment of course as you wouldn't be at Ms. Clinton's conference.

 

[gejoslin]

Plaid!!

The fact is, the hotel is a private business. They can place whatever requirements they like on renting a room to you, as long as the requirement doesn't violate civil rights laws. They can require you to wear plaid. They can require you to listen to disco music. So you can either comply with their request or find somewhere else to stay. Or you can argue with them, in which case they might advise you to leave or they might back off or they might call the police.

Being rude to them will only reinforce their belief that people who own guns are crazy and probably dangerous.

Plaid And disco! As long as it's not leisure suits!:jester:​

 

[RJHinPDX]

I might be wrong, not being a VA lawyer, but to my knowledge there is 'private' business and then there is private business. And the way I understand it is that businesses which cater to the public do not have the kind of rights described. Some of those would be groceries, restaurants and hotels. Because they make their business with the general public, always, they do have some limits on what they can require or not. Requirements on renting a room would seem to be the same as requirements on selling groceries or serving meals to a customer, and as I understand it those establishments can no more make you "wear plaid" than they can require you to wear a white skin.

Are any readers a lawyer? If so, how about some genuine contribution here? What does the law in Virginia say?

I am not a lawyer. My understanding, though, is that one's racial status is protected under the law, as is religious affiliation, national origin, gender, disability, etc. and that private businesses may not discriminate against someone on that account. Having a particular object in your possession, like a gun, or wearing the wrong clothes, like jeans and a t-shirt in a fancy restaurant, are not protected under the law and so a private business can discriminate all it wants on that basis.