Sadly the LEOs could not not respond to the caller and check him out....sad commentary on todays world on all fronts.
given his preparedness, the number of court cases he cited, and the fact he was videoing it all, kinda makes me think he was looking for that to happen.
the patrolman says 'its a matter of public safety' after grabbing the guys loaded gun and momentarily pointing it at him...
given his preparedness, the number of court cases he cited, and the fact he was videoing it all, kinda makes me think he was looking for that to happen.
the patrolman says 'its a matter of public safety' after grabbing the guys loaded gun and momentarily pointing it at him...
Well Sir... I open carry everywhere I go everyday here in Michigan... including sometimes to municipal council meetings. And I don't go where open carry is illegal. And I legally covertly!!!! video and audio record each and every second I'm open carrying. Why?given his preparedness, the number of court cases he cited, and the fact he was videoing it all, kinda makes me think he was looking for that to happen.
the patrolman says 'its a matter of public safety' after grabbing the guys loaded gun and momentarily pointing it at him...
It seems to me that this is paranoia at it's worst. WHY would you walk around with a recorder going every time you leave the house unless you were scared of your own shadow. If you ended up in a confrontation I am purty sure that you would be observed turning your recorder on and that would either terminate the situation or would cause it to escalate. At that point you may get what you are not looking for shoved down your throat by a bad guy.Well Sir... I open carry everywhere I go everyday here in Michigan... including sometimes to municipal council meetings. And I don't go where open carry is illegal. And I legally covertly!!!! video and audio record each and every second I'm open carrying. Why?
Because if anyone, cop or just a jerk arse dink wanting to make trouble, lies and says I did something I didn't do I have a recording to go after them in court with. And you bet I will pursue it to the fullest extent possible.
Dude... we carry guns to protect our very lives from criminals... why would we not carry recorders to protect ourselves from lying cops and sanctimonious know it alls wanting to cause trouble?
While you may think knowing the laws and recording events shows a desire to cause a confrontation the truth is quite the opposite. I research the laws so I will know that what I am doing is legal... you know... actually following the law? And I record so I can prove I DIDN'T cause a confrontation... the other guy did.
Think of it this way... if a bad guy attacks me on the street I carry a gun so I can defend myself. Well... if a bad guy (and some cops ARE bad guys! full of their authority and looking to cause problems. They may be few and far between.. thank God!... but they are out there) attacks me in court I want to have a recording to prove my innocence!!
Whether OC'ing or CC'ing (if someone catches an accidental "show" of your CC'd gun they also can lie that you did something stupid too) having a sound knowledge of the firearms laws where you are carrying a gun and recording equipment to have a record of what is happening..... is nothing more than covering your own arse.
By the way... I save those recordings for many years too.
Actually Bill.... I turn on my recorder before I step into public.It seems to me that this is paranoia at it's worst. WHY would you walk around with a recorder going every time you leave the house unless you were scared of your own shadow. If you ended up in a confrontation I am purty sure that you would be observed turning your recorder on and that would either terminate the situation or would cause it to escalate. At that point you may get what you are not looking for shoved down your throat by a bad guy.
But each of us have a right to their opinion. You have your's and I have mine.
Bill
given his preparedness, the number of court cases he cited, and the fact he was videoing it all, kinda makes me think he was looking for that to happen.
the patrolman says 'its a matter of public safety' after grabbing the guys loaded gun and momentarily pointing it at him...
They should of just told the caller that it is legal for someone to carry openly.
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We get this all the time.. some doofus thinks he's exercising 'open carry' rights and wanders into a mall or gas station or parking complex or ANY number of private properties.. then the property owner calls us..we respond to a weapons complaint and then said doofus cries to high heaven about being jacked up by the man..
NO
this is such a dangerous and misleading statement that SO many people don't understand. One hears the term 'open carry', and, as we've seen, people think it's a license to wander around wherever they please with their handgun hanging on their hip.
'Open Carry' doesn't apply on PRIVATE PROPERTY. One can walk 4 blocks down a city street and cross over public to private property a dozen times.
We get this all the time.. some doofus thinks he's exercising 'open carry' rights and wanders into a mall or gas station or parking complex or ANY number of private properties.. then the property owner calls us..we respond to a weapons complaint and then said doofus cries to high heaven about being jacked up by the man..
There's a way to 'open carry' correctly.. FAR too many don't learn the nuances of this concept before strolling out into the world showing off their handgun.
Actually, while the majority of LE are good cops who are well aware of the laws, ALL of the laws, regarding open carry in their State and locale.... far too many LEO's do not do their "due diligence" in learning and understanding the nuances of the laws that pertain to open carry.NO
this is such a dangerous and misleading statement that SO many people don't understand. One hears the term 'open carry', and, as we've seen, people think it's a license to wander around wherever they please with their handgun hanging on their hip.
'Open Carry' doesn't apply on PRIVATE PROPERTY. One can walk 4 blocks down a city street and cross over public to private property a dozen times.
We get this all the time.. some doofus thinks he's exercising 'open carry' rights and wanders into a mall or gas station or parking complex or ANY number of private properties.. then the property owner calls us..we respond to a weapons complaint and then said doofus cries to high heaven about being jacked up by the man..
There's a way to 'open carry' correctly.. FAR too many don't learn the nuances of this concept before strolling out into the world showing off their handgun.