open carry WalMart
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Bill Cavalieri
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I see your post with "see" on a new line but no blank line between it and the prior sentence. Interestingly the blank line shows up in the quoted text I see when I click "reply with quote". Not sure it's worth chasing, I've gotten used to the lack of punctuation from text messages etc. I'm running Windows 7 and IE 9, not sure that matters but it could.
Treo
Bullet Proof
Well that explains why the OP keeps insisting that he put in "paraphrases"
I am not sure if this will help, but you might go to the Settings tab at the top of any page and scroll down to this portion:
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Message Editor Interface:
Enhanced Interface - Full WYSIWYG Editing
Basic Editor - A simple text box
Standard Editor - Extra formatting controls
When posting messages to the forums or other members, there are three interface types available to you. The simplest of these is a simple text box, while the last is a fully-fledged WYSIWYG editor, which allows you to format your text as you want it and see the results immediately.
Depending upon the capabilities of your web browser, you may not be able to use all of these options. If you experience problems when posting messages, try switching to a different interface type.
Perhaps you have a box checked that does not allow the entered spacing to remain after the post is entered.
ironmike86
New member
This thread had potential of being interesting..??? But its more of a grammar lesson.JMO
But perhaps it will make future posts easier to read. I tend to go crosseyed reading posts that are really long and run together.
jcreek
New member
Ok so if you have a problem with it, walk away. Clearly the guy he talked with didn't, so what's the problem? You're trying to convince him to stop being friendly because you don't want to talk to anybody you don't know in public.
You sound like a vet who didn't reintegrate back into society well. Yes, you should always have a certain amount of situational awareness about you but at the same time, the local Wal-Mart isn't Fallujah.
If that's how you want to live, fine no worries, but don't make everybody else wrong because of it.
Treo
Bullet Proof
You've never been to my wal mart.
Also, I think I mentioned up thread that I was attacked by someone who did essentially what the OP did , just with a different topic of conversation to close the gap on me before attacking and I was in full uniform and clearly identifable as a private security guard. Experiences like that color your view of humanity
To be clear, when I wrote my original response I didn’t get that the OP was clearly identifiable as a police officer. That changes things to a degree but I’d still be a little on the defense (which is not the same as being defensive) as was the person the OP interacted with, because it isn’t the norm of behavior. In my experience police don’t start random conversations with people to compliment them on their choice of firearms.
The fact that the person the OP interacted with also went on the defense initally indicates that I assessment of the situation is not out of the norm, although I would have remained somewhat on my guard just because the OP was a police officer (Again, my experience doesn’t include Police Officers starting random conversations just for the Hell of it.)
I’d also like to clarify that when I say that I’d have my guard up or be on the defense I’m not saying that I’d square up on the guy (especially not if he a uniformed Police officer) but I would certainly take note of the abnormal behavior and (assuming a non uniformed person approaching me) at least mentally start preparing for a confrontation or go from DEFCON 4 to 3 if you will because it isn’t normal behavior and abnormal behavior can be a precursor to an attack.
Is that really so hard to understand?
XD40scinNC
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I don't read them;
if one cannot express their thoughts in an organized readable manner, the assumption is that they really don't have thoughts worthy of deciphering from a wall of text.
Bill Cavalieri
New member
Treo said:
I have to agree with the "never been to my wal mart". The one closest to me is pretty rough after 10PM. We have our own (plainclothes) LEOs where I work. One of them had 3 guys walk up on him at that Wal-Mart and try to rob him. Decent neighborhood, it's not that it's the people.
Deserteagle
New member
Sometimes I forget this is a firearms forum when half the posts are about grammar.
Maybe rename it as USAGrammar?
Maybe rename it as USAGrammar?
dogshawred
New member
I copied and pasted your text to Word and it showed the paragraphs you had inserted yet these aren't in your post so if you have your settings set as described they aren't working ok.
Even in the reply box the paragraphs shows appropriately but not in the post after being submitted. Just saying.
dogshawred
New member
The areas that we all live are as different as the people in those areas, we all have good and bad areas in our little world that we call home. This does not make one better or worse, it simply requires our special attention to what areas we are traveling through and act accordingly.
In my area it isn't uncommon to strike up a conversation while waiting in line to check out with a complete stranger over only God knows what at the time (even at Wal-Mart and I don't know what everyone's fixation is on Wal-Mart).
The point is that nothing is going to work everywhere.
What you do where you live will be up to what you have experienced or are willing to trust happened in your immediate area.
As an OC or CC you must conform to what allows you to carry with the least amount of distress, only then can you go about your life in a manner that will make you happy.
Don't allow anyone to influence your free will to carry in comfort. :biggrin: There is enough crap with all the laws and regulation to worry about without headstrong forum participants pushing their way of thinking. :sad:
Happy Trails
Dog
In my area it isn't uncommon to strike up a conversation while waiting in line to check out with a complete stranger over only God knows what at the time (even at Wal-Mart and I don't know what everyone's fixation is on Wal-Mart).
The point is that nothing is going to work everywhere.
What you do where you live will be up to what you have experienced or are willing to trust happened in your immediate area.
As an OC or CC you must conform to what allows you to carry with the least amount of distress, only then can you go about your life in a manner that will make you happy.
Don't allow anyone to influence your free will to carry in comfort. :biggrin: There is enough crap with all the laws and regulation to worry about without headstrong forum participants pushing their way of thinking. :sad:
Happy Trails
Dog
BuddhaKat
The Big Happy Fat Kat
I cannot possibly fathom why anyone would go on guard when approached by a leo. I open carry in Walmart all the time, and in my travels, whenever I encounter a cop I have never believed myself to be in any peril whatsoever. I'm not doing anything wrong, therefore I don't feel I have any reason to fear my local leo's. In fact, my experience has been quite the opposite. I have never once encountered a cop that didn't thank me for carrying. Every single one of them was an ardent supporter of law abiding citizens carrying in public.
I don't understand why people that aren't breaking the law think that a uniformed cop approaching them is anything other than a fellow good guy.
I don't understand why people that aren't breaking the law think that a uniformed cop approaching them is anything other than a fellow good guy.
dad45acp
New member
Because people are afraid of cops and think that their bad-assery mojo is being stepped on. You would think heavy handed s h i t was going down every day by checking out these forums with links to half-assed stories put out by the Blaze etc. You know and I know that isn't the case and any ultra conservative reporting agency will put their own spin on things not unlike any ultra liberal group. I think if people got off their asses and away from the internet and have true dialogues with public officials, they would have more understanding and less ignorance of whats going on around them...instead of getting sucked into all these half baked stories on the internet that people take as 100% truth.
tricolordad
Banned
There's only one LEO where I live where I request that he stay at least 6 feet away from me. Mentally unstable or just a criminal...I have no problems with any of the other LEOs. This one guy is just a piece of garbage. There's another city, Menomonie, where I do not let any of them approach. Any of you in Wisconsin or Minnesota who travel through would be wise to do the same.
BuddhaKat
The Big Happy Fat Kat
I'm not trying to pretend that there aren't cops that don't abuse their authority, but they're few and far between. Just because there's a bad apple in a bunch, it doesn't mean there's a bad apple in every bunch. I'm not so foolish as to pretend that all cops support the 2nd amendment. Without a doubt there's a small minority that wants to disarm law abiding citizens in the misguided belief that doing so would make society safer. 98% of their fellow cops don't share that sentiment. Knowing that, I'm going to treat any uni I come in contact with as a good guy until they prove otherwise.
I've met a lot of cops in my 54 years, including my fair share of jerks. But I can't really think of a time when a cop was being a jerk to me that I wasn't being a jerk to him first. Don't we all fight fire with fire? If you don't act like a jerk you probably won't find a jerk cop.
Cops have a job to do and I've always believed it's a tough one. One that can get very dangerous in a split second. To that end, LEO's have developed procedures and techniques over time to give them a better chance of accomplishing the job we ask them to do and to come home to their families everyday when their shift ends. That people don't like it when it happens to them, not something I'm particularly bothered by. Cops will do what it takes to get the job done. Hurl insults at them, they may not like you, but you have that right. Failure to comply with a lawful order, well, you're going to meet a set of handcuffs. Resist arrest, you're going to meet the cops friends or be on the floppy side of a taser. Pull a gun, well you're going to get shot.
I don't worry about encountering a cop because I'm not walking around doing anythin illegal. If I run across a jerk cop, I'll immediately comply with any order and if it's not a lawful one, I'll deal with it later. It's not hard to find cops that don't support other cops that violate people's civil rights.
To better understand just exactly what a cop goes through I actually applied to the Citizens Regional Police Academy. It's a 12 week course that covers what cops deal with on the street and in their training. This is no poof course. It's got live fire training, FX encounters, driving, access to secured areas, and the like. At the end, none of us will be a cop, but we will know more about what it takes to be a cop. I fully intend to ask about cops that abuse their authority and what the departments feel about it. It'll be interesting for sure.
I've met a lot of cops in my 54 years, including my fair share of jerks. But I can't really think of a time when a cop was being a jerk to me that I wasn't being a jerk to him first. Don't we all fight fire with fire? If you don't act like a jerk you probably won't find a jerk cop.
Cops have a job to do and I've always believed it's a tough one. One that can get very dangerous in a split second. To that end, LEO's have developed procedures and techniques over time to give them a better chance of accomplishing the job we ask them to do and to come home to their families everyday when their shift ends. That people don't like it when it happens to them, not something I'm particularly bothered by. Cops will do what it takes to get the job done. Hurl insults at them, they may not like you, but you have that right. Failure to comply with a lawful order, well, you're going to meet a set of handcuffs. Resist arrest, you're going to meet the cops friends or be on the floppy side of a taser. Pull a gun, well you're going to get shot.
I don't worry about encountering a cop because I'm not walking around doing anythin illegal. If I run across a jerk cop, I'll immediately comply with any order and if it's not a lawful one, I'll deal with it later. It's not hard to find cops that don't support other cops that violate people's civil rights.
To better understand just exactly what a cop goes through I actually applied to the Citizens Regional Police Academy. It's a 12 week course that covers what cops deal with on the street and in their training. This is no poof course. It's got live fire training, FX encounters, driving, access to secured areas, and the like. At the end, none of us will be a cop, but we will know more about what it takes to be a cop. I fully intend to ask about cops that abuse their authority and what the departments feel about it. It'll be interesting for sure.
B
Bikenut
Guest
When a cop interacts with us he does a quick ... bad guy or good guy or arsehole good guy... assessment and adjusts his attitude/actions accordingly. It would be wise for us to do the same when we interact with a cop.
To do otherwise, for both cops and us, is foolish.
To do otherwise, for both cops and us, is foolish.
Treo
Bullet Proof
To be clear the OP didn't make it clear that he was in uniform or clearly identifiable as a cop when he approached the guy, that came later.
I go on guard when approached by a cop because I don't know why he is approaching me when I find out what his reasoning is I adjust my posture
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