Obviously, my point stands; the idiot ADMITS that he blames the victim, validates the state, and exalts himself as having EARNED something which is expressly stated as a RIGHT in the Constitution.
Again, I won't take up a fool's argument-- and every word proves him to be a fool indeed. And since there's no fool like an old fool, from his talk then he must be 100.
And his best line of all?
Again, note the thread-title: "open carry legal in Michigan". So he's claiming that simply CONCEALING a carried gun, takes some special skill that should require making it illegal without a permit.
And he calls OTHERS "morons..." irony of ironies.
This, people, is the mentality behind CCW laws. I guess he thinks the Jews in the Holocaust weren't "politically active" enough either... fools never learn.
So again you resort to insults, again proving my point, you can live with the guilt of the past and never obtain a CC or you can learn to live with it and move on.
You add words that I did not post, misconstrue sentences, and rewrite my posting to suit your paranoia, and ignore the rest. you are sounding more and more like a crybaby democrat with every reply.
OK now son go sit in the corner, calm down for a bit and pay attention, this old guy is trying to teach you a life lesson that can help, that is if you will actually listen for once and stop your rant.
History lesson with an analogy: Once upon a time there was a group called the Michigan Melita, and they were of a rapidly growing number. Their leadership got kind of radical, and they held marches in open places like malls, shopping centers, parks, they would dress up in full battle attire and march about trying to shove their right to be a Melita down the throats of others, they were breaking no laws and did as they please. Needless to say this made soccer moms, and the elderly uneasy, and in the eye of the press it was a feeding frenzy.
I had a chance discussion with their leader at one local event, and in the course of our conversation said that he had a good idea but his method of promoting the group were a little radical and in need of toning down a bit, T shirts and hats were more friendly and less intimidating to the public, that their always showing up in full dress was a bit over the edge. He thanked me but continued along his line of promotion. So today they still exist but are a small, and somewhat ostracized group, shunned by many, and for the most mislabeled as extremest.
Lesson Continues: Back when there were more anti than pro gunners in charge of the state there was what was called the "General permit" coveted by many, but so rare that it bordered on unbend legend. Virtually obtainable unless you were a licensed PI, Judge, were related too or real close friends with everyone on the gun board.
For a great many years many attempted to rectify this but were thwarted at every turn, and then Florida broke the mold with their flagship shall issue law, but still MI resisted with determination. At the peak of the fight there was an incident that made the news, at least in the pro gun sector in a big way. A local gal that was in fear of her life had applied for one of the general carry permits, stating her fear of her ex, of the useless restraining order, how he stalked her, how the police had been called (over 13) multiple times, but was refused as not having sufficient grounds. What happened next you can guess, her ex one night after work hunted her down, kidnapped, brutally raped and murdered her.
This tragedy helped to spur on those that wanted a more fair and just system of issuing permits to the citizens, and yes you could have argued until the cows came home that it was a right via the US Constitution but then that line of reasoning would have left us where we were and not where we are.
We succeeded though political processes, having grass roots groups having meetings and getting to know our candidates and their stand, through getting to know our Representatives, helping them on their election campaigns, through posting adds in local papers, writing articles, letters to the editor, through peacefull demonstrations promoting, through the sweat and efforts of those that wanted a more just system. No we did not rant, rave or insult. No we did not try and alienate those of the gun world that did not march with us.
The tricky part and rest of the lesson so pay attention: At the time of the "general" permit system OC simply was not accepted, if you attempted this you would end up in jail, plain and simple, and yes someone in the BC area tried it. If you did so and were not on your own property you were legally out there by yourself and no one would step up to help. if you want to see the article you will need to go to the Library and look up the Enquire and News story on MICRO FISH, date was in the summer of either 70 or 71.
As CC slowly became accepted by the public at large, the OC crowd came forth with more legal backing, and the proof that citizens can responsibly carry guns, that there were no records of issues with law abiding citizens wishing to either OC or CC.
lessons learned: That you must not try and offend in your mission to promote what is a right or you will create more friction than your cause needs and that makes you a huge part of the problem and not the solution, that yes you may or may not be right in what ever your endeavor however....
Remember you can slide a lot further on Bull Shit than you can on sand. So again baby steps, for if you go forth with insuilts, rants and a this is my right learn to live with it attitude, you could very well end up loosing that right in a future legislative session, pressed by those that you offended with your shove it down their throats attitude.
"it is a wise man that learns from the mistakes of others" but a fool goes forth and makes his own, over and over.....