If I am minding my own business, and breaking NO LAWS while open carrying, I will (if I want to at the time) be an A$$ to whoever ILLEGALLY tries to get me to "cover it up".
(just because someone has a uniform and badge, it does NOT make an illegal/unlawful order a lawful one)
Deal with it.
INVARIABLY, those who are the MOST adamant in their attacks on those who record police encounters, are enablers of police misconduct, even the most vicious and shocking misconduct. Virtually ALL of the most blatant acts of criminality recently exposed came to light and were taken seriously ONLY because they were recorded. Those who oppose such recordings do so SOLELY to prevent police who commit serious crimes and civil torts from being held accountable for their actions.P.S. I carry a voice recorder to PROTECT myself from LAWBREAKERS, not to cause a scene, or to be confrontational.......
I feel that if someone has the right to OC and chooses to OC, they should not be hassled by the police. I don't agree that OC'ing is equivalent to "waving your gun in someones face". The person is just choosing to OC, going about their daily business. People will never get used to the idea of OC if nobody does it.
As gun owners and carriers, we do need to educate the general public about 2A and the right to bear arms.
If the police harass people who are exercising their civil rights, they are in the wrong. In the 60's, civil rights marchers were "in your face" because it was the only way to get the cops to back off, and permit free exercise of civil rights.
The PPD are very well known for excessive use of force, and street denial of Constitutional rights.
People will never get used to the idea of OC if nobody does it.
THIS situation has prompted a lot of criticism of the police in Philly by CCW supporters, but it could have happened anywhere - TX, FL, MO, - anywhere. It should make us all think carefully about our actions and whether just because we CAN do something, if we SHOULD do it. Did this event help or hurt gun rights and CCW? Public opinion is extremely important to advancing our rights - how will the public see this event?
In my opinion, this guy was looking for this to happen. This 24 year old child was carrying openly in Philadelphia and carried a tape recorder which tells me he wanted a confrontation. He had obviously rehearsed his own response since he quoted statute numbers so he set it up and he got it. I've
The constitution is a beautiful, wonderful, amazing document but it only works if we have smart people who can handle responsibility. This guy was stupid. BE SMART.
In my opinion, this guy was looking for this to happen. This 24 year old child was carrying openly in Philadelphia and carried a tape recorder which tells me he wanted a confrontation.
Yep!! I'm not a fan of open carry, I oppose it simply because of the reaction it is going to cause in the public place, and probably get more restrictions on licensed carriers, or possible repeal of concealed carry laws just to eliminate all of it. But if it (open carry) is to acceptable, it is going to have to be done a little more intelligently than what this moron did...
What if the police decided to arrest everyone who [as required by Ohio statute] notified them that they were carrying, during an official stop? Should we stop carrying concealed too?Yep!! I'm not a fan of open carry, I oppose it simply because of the reaction it is going to cause in the public place, and probably get more restrictions on licensed carriers, or possible repeal of concealed carry laws just to eliminate all of it. But if it (open carry) is to acceptable, it is going to have to be done a little more intelligently than what this moron did...