Open carried for the first time

This has been stated, not so explicitly, but in a manner here that gives the general viewpoint.

We have made a grave mistake an allowed this type of thinking to perpetuate that the Constitution grants us rights. NO!

Agreed.

We have all of the rights in the world

I struggle with this. In its dictionary definition, 'rights' are more along the lines of what I've referenced as 'privileges'... and what is commonly referred to as 'rights' are, by dictionary definition, more of a 'privilege'..

I suspect we may be coming at the same end point but with semantic differences.

and the Constitution grants none of them. The Constitution was written to limit the oppression of the people by a tyrannical government, not to 'grant' us rights. We MUST STOP saying that rights are given by anything other than our existence.

Until I read that, I must admit,I was struggling with whether you were agreeing with me, or disagreeing.

We must understand and begin to reverse the Libertard mentality that the laws give us rights. The Constitution GUARANTEES that a tyrannical government CANNOT oppress and infringe on these rights that we are born with. We have to return to government for the people BY THE PEOPLE.

I'm not sure that you recognize the near-oxymoron you've stated..

The constitution doesn't guarantee me squat. In the end, I am responsible for my actions, I have "rights" or "privileges" (depending on how you define either) based solely on my ability to defend my ability to exercise them.

The constitution is a legality. Government is a legality.

Allowing the vernacular to say that the laws give us rights is playing into the mentality that the government is the supreme power. NO! The people are the supreme power.

Absolutely, positively, 100% agreed!

It's a shame that the concept of 'government' has ceased to be one of self-restraint and responsibility, and has instead become a faceless entity that sheeple think will protect them and coddle them and tuck them in at night.

There's a reason I sleep with three dozen rounds in two pistols within 10 feet of me - instead of a physical phone with the speed-dial of the local PD.

As a cautionary, though? There's also a reason I don't shoot first and ask questions later (hence my earlier comment about making sure I don't do anything that would result in the revocation of the privilege.... and for those who didn't catch it? I wasn't talking about government taking away my guns or saying I'm not allowed to carry that pretty little piece of plastic in my wallet with "CCW" on it.)

D.

I see your points. My only comment is that while, yes, the Constitution is a set of laws controlling a government, it is the granting of power by the people to the government and a limitation of that power. When viewed this way, it isn't as much of an oxymoron as it appears to be on first glance.

We need to teach that the power is granted to the government by the people and not the other way around. Only then will we have any progress.
 
Really? Just wanted to see the reaction? You should not be carrying a loaded weapon!

That was not why the op open carried:

While waiting for my ccw permit I decided I wanted to try out my holster and so I figured I'd open carry . . . from my condo to my complex mailbox. :). About 50 yards.

since legally I'm permitted to do it I saw no reason not to take advantage of it. Maybe it will be a good way to prepare for conceal carrying in the future? If I can get use to open carrying around my neighborhood maybe conceal carry will be second nature more quickly.

Maybe you should not be posting on an internet forum.
 
Your point is what?? Why do you feel that is the case?

concealedinla posted that you should not be carrying a loaded gun because he stated that you were open carrying because you wanted to see the reaction. I merely replied that since he thought you shouldn't carry a loaded weapon because he thought you were open carrying for the wrong reason that maybe he shouldn't be posting on the internet because I thought he was posting for the wrong reasons. I was replying to his post, not to your posts that I was quoting to show him what seemed to be his error.
 

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