online ccw classes?
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Alinero718
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I took the safe or sorry course online and printed out the certificate. Send them out with my Florida ccw
application and in 30 days I got my ccw in the mail.
application and in 30 days I got my ccw in the mail.
Deserteagle
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I took an online class and my Colorado sheriff would not accept it. His reasoning "We cant prove you are the one who sat at the computer and took the class". Dont waste your money on one like I did.
Opinions?
OK. I think online courses are OK for the self motivated and for the education that one requires of himself.
As far as a 'certificate' from these courses? I say BS. I know several folks who have taken, and are in the middle of these types of courses for college degrees.
They are the laziest, most unmotivated people I know, well, maybe not the most unmotivated.
I think that overall, online courses have been instrumental in dumbing down America.
This opinion is not open for any argument. I have thought long and hard over my feeling for years and I have come to this opinion because I have seen the results.
Feel free to disagree with me, but don't think you can change my mind. In general, online courses help contribute to utter laziness, except for the truly self motivated.
KK
OK. I think online courses are OK for the self motivated and for the education that one requires of himself.
As far as a 'certificate' from these courses? I say BS. I know several folks who have taken, and are in the middle of these types of courses for college degrees.
They are the laziest, most unmotivated people I know, well, maybe not the most unmotivated.
I think that overall, online courses have been instrumental in dumbing down America.
This opinion is not open for any argument. I have thought long and hard over my feeling for years and I have come to this opinion because I have seen the results.
Feel free to disagree with me, but don't think you can change my mind. In general, online courses help contribute to utter laziness, except for the truly self motivated.
KK
stingray2100
New member
ok, here are my 2 cents on this joke.
1.- online courses have no way of knowing that you are cheating on the class.
2.- If you want to cut corners on your training by doing it online, well it is still your choice.
3.- How much are you learning? are your questions being answered. I answer tons of questions in class.
4.- Do you Get any feedback from the online course? hell no...!
5.- It is a good way to visualize, but it does not porvide you with answers, or feedback from your mistakes.
mistakes that can cost you, or a family member there lives, or you get someone hurt or killed. Granted
classroom courses do not give you any garranties, but You do get more input from them.
6.- How confortable will you feel after seeing a recording and carrying a firearm? Remeber that having a
firearm does not make you a protected person, it is the training and your knowledge that give you the
confidence level to carry a firearm day in and day out.
7.- take it from one that knows, no video is going to teach you how you are going to react in a critical
situation, it will also not tell you how to improve you specific problems when you shoot, it will not
guide you thru the second after you had to pull your trigger, it is also not going to be there when you
call because you made a mistake assembiling your firearm for the first time and you forgot you add the
recoil spring and now you cannot put it pack together.
Online courses are good videos, not saying you can't learn from them something, but to say that you are ready to carry a firearm after looking at a screen for several hours is a bit crazy, but if that makes you feel better and ready for the real world, just think about it, your going to be carrying with hundreds or thousands of people just like you that watched the video and have the same information (good or bad) would you feel ok with that, knowing that they probably have never fired a gun...AT ALL...!
do yourself a favor, get an instructor a good one. do it for your own good and that of your family members. and your community, we all carry, so would you not feel safe knowing you are around people that are possibly not safe?
now on the other hand, it is our constitutional right to be able to carry and bear arms, but like one of our founders inficated, that all members of society should be able to keep arms, and be trained alike when they are young. In our society we have lost the marskmanship programs.
I remember when I was a kid that I could carry my little 22lr to school and give it to the principal for safe keeping, we had marksmanship clubs for rifle, pistol and archery. Our society has lost all of that do to politically correct ideas. We have people that are victims of violent crime every day, every hour, every minute of the day, because of our society cutting corners and being lazy.
Sorry if this was a Long post...hope it helps.
1.- online courses have no way of knowing that you are cheating on the class.
2.- If you want to cut corners on your training by doing it online, well it is still your choice.
3.- How much are you learning? are your questions being answered. I answer tons of questions in class.
4.- Do you Get any feedback from the online course? hell no...!
5.- It is a good way to visualize, but it does not porvide you with answers, or feedback from your mistakes.
mistakes that can cost you, or a family member there lives, or you get someone hurt or killed. Granted
classroom courses do not give you any garranties, but You do get more input from them.
6.- How confortable will you feel after seeing a recording and carrying a firearm? Remeber that having a
firearm does not make you a protected person, it is the training and your knowledge that give you the
confidence level to carry a firearm day in and day out.
7.- take it from one that knows, no video is going to teach you how you are going to react in a critical
situation, it will also not tell you how to improve you specific problems when you shoot, it will not
guide you thru the second after you had to pull your trigger, it is also not going to be there when you
call because you made a mistake assembiling your firearm for the first time and you forgot you add the
recoil spring and now you cannot put it pack together.
Online courses are good videos, not saying you can't learn from them something, but to say that you are ready to carry a firearm after looking at a screen for several hours is a bit crazy, but if that makes you feel better and ready for the real world, just think about it, your going to be carrying with hundreds or thousands of people just like you that watched the video and have the same information (good or bad) would you feel ok with that, knowing that they probably have never fired a gun...AT ALL...!
do yourself a favor, get an instructor a good one. do it for your own good and that of your family members. and your community, we all carry, so would you not feel safe knowing you are around people that are possibly not safe?
now on the other hand, it is our constitutional right to be able to carry and bear arms, but like one of our founders inficated, that all members of society should be able to keep arms, and be trained alike when they are young. In our society we have lost the marskmanship programs.
I remember when I was a kid that I could carry my little 22lr to school and give it to the principal for safe keeping, we had marksmanship clubs for rifle, pistol and archery. Our society has lost all of that do to politically correct ideas. We have people that are victims of violent crime every day, every hour, every minute of the day, because of our society cutting corners and being lazy.
Sorry if this was a Long post...hope it helps.
Bttbbob
New member
Alinero718
I took the safe or sorry course online and printed out the certificate. Send them out with my Florida ccw
application and in 30 days I got my ccw in the mail.
Do not let the state know this......FLA STATUTE 790 says your Instructor has to see you shoot and handle a firearm safely. PM me if you need to know the exact statute.......It is illegal.
I took the safe or sorry course online and printed out the certificate. Send them out with my Florida ccw
application and in 30 days I got my ccw in the mail.
Do not let the state know this......FLA STATUTE 790 says your Instructor has to see you shoot and handle a firearm safely. PM me if you need to know the exact statute.......It is illegal.
SGB
New member
Amen, the state can revoke your License and you could face the remote possibility of criminal charges.
I guess this depends on the state and their requirements for a CCWP. Personally, common sense tells me that you might as well get your CCWP from a well written comic book. I do not know about each members' state requirements, but you would think a qualified/certified instructor, fingerprints, give and take questions and answers, a range test and a written test that is supervised, should be a minimum. If, IMO, this is not the minimum for a CCWP the issued certificate is a real joke and just a comic book supplement.
The online courses aren't much different than the gun show classes IMHO. I took the gun show class years ago only because I had 20 years of firearms experience already, but admit that I basically spent my money having someone show me how to fill out the application and fire one round from 3 yds. and hit a target.
To see how the people line up like cattle at those things is very disturbing, when I witnessed old ladies in there that barely could identify the muzzle end of a handgun. They knew nothing, and because they were able to follow directions and squeeze the trigger for one round, they got their certificate.
I'm not saying all of this because I am an NRA instructor, but I really do feel like people needs some good hands on training to learn the basics of safety, ammo, stance, etc. and then they can BUILD on that education by practicing, reading, watching videos, etc.
Also, as mentioned before, it is ILLEGAL in Florida to not have an instructor WITNESS you properly handle and shoot a firearm.
My motto as instructor, is give them MORE than they paid for or expect. EXCEED the flimsy state requirements.
To see how the people line up like cattle at those things is very disturbing, when I witnessed old ladies in there that barely could identify the muzzle end of a handgun. They knew nothing, and because they were able to follow directions and squeeze the trigger for one round, they got their certificate.
I'm not saying all of this because I am an NRA instructor, but I really do feel like people needs some good hands on training to learn the basics of safety, ammo, stance, etc. and then they can BUILD on that education by practicing, reading, watching videos, etc.
Also, as mentioned before, it is ILLEGAL in Florida to not have an instructor WITNESS you properly handle and shoot a firearm.
My motto as instructor, is give them MORE than they paid for or expect. EXCEED the flimsy state requirements.
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