One more sheepdog in the pack!

billthemoose

billthemoose

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After 102 days, my Nevada CCW finally arrived in the mail! My edc is a S&W M&P Shield 9mm, tucked away in a PJHolsters IWB rig. Feels good to finally get "off the bench"!
 
The term sheepdog makes me think of law enforcement. Just a reminder that unless you are law enforcement, you aren't. You have no duty to protect anyone but yourself and your family. Please consider this unless you want to get in a ton of trouble.
 
Now you have the permit that our Founding Fathers wanted all Americans to have as our birthright. Damn shame we have to buy a permission slip in order to exercise our God given right.
 
Austin said:
The term sheepdog makes me think of law enforcement. Just a reminder that unless you are law enforcement, you aren't. You have no duty to protect anyone but yourself and your family. Please consider this unless you want to get in a ton of trouble.
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Good words to remind someone that they are not LE, however LE also has no DUTY to protect anyone either. No matter how many of their cars say "to protect and to serve".

The term "sheepdog" as quoted by Lt. Col Grossman isn't just reserved for LE. He refers it to anyone that has the mindset that wouldn't sit still for someone attacking someone else and would step in to help if that person were defenseless. I consider myself the sheepdog in my family. Would I step in during a situation in which someone else was being attacked? I would have to judge that situation independently... my main goal is to keep myself safe for my family. If I could help someone out who needed it, within the law, and go home to my family, chances are I would.

Hopefully, the OP has a similar mindset.
 
Austin said:
The term sheepdog makes me think of law enforcement. Just a reminder that unless you are law enforcement, you aren't. You have no duty to protect anyone but yourself and your family. Please consider this unless you want to get in a ton of trouble.
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Thank for the concern, Austin. Rest assured, I didn't go and buy a weapon and go through the hoops to obtain a ccw for the purpose of going out and playing cop or superhero. I did it to protect myself and my family on a day-to-day basis. If however, as wolf_fire brought up, a situation should ever arise where no police help was present and I could prevent someone from being killed or stop an Aurora-style attack, how could I live with myself if I had the means and a clear shot and I did nothing to help? It's not about playing the hero - it's about being a responsible human being.
 
Austin said:
The term sheepdog makes me think of law enforcement. Just a reminder that unless you are law enforcement, you aren't. You have no duty to protect anyone but yourself and your family. Please consider this unless you want to get in a ton of trouble.
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The majority of police don't do a very good job of protecting anybody (except politicians & themselves of course)...

Case in point;

 
Glad my attempt to look out for a fella was turned into a cop bashing thread, ummm not. How about this y'all. If u don't like the police, next time u need help call a crackhead instead.
 
Austin said:
Glad my attempt to look out for a fella was turned into a cop bashing thread, ummm not. How about this y'all. If u don't like the police, next time u need help call a crackhead instead.
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Nobody likes 'bashing' the police, we are simply stating some simple facts.

When seconds count, the police are usually too many minutes away.
That is a fact.
Police have no duty to protect.
That is another fact.
In Los Angeles, California when Reginal Denny was being beaten & shot half to death in broad daylight on a public street, the police looked on and yet they did nothing to help him.
That is another fact.
A civilian rescued/saved Reginald Denny, not the police.
That's also a fact.
Etc....Etc....
I could go on and on and on unfortunately.
 
You may or may not take an oath but if your the kind of person who can stand by and watch harm being done to an innocent I personally would prefer you leave your weapon at home and turn in your Carry permit. As humans, and as Americans, again, I hold US to a higher standard.
Your freedom allows you to stand by and do nothing. It also allows others to stand by and watch as nothing is done for you.
This is a real world example of what is wrong in this country and in the world.
When Malala Yousafzai, a Pakistani girl can stand up for woman's rights and be shot in the head for her beliefs I seriously wonder about people who cannot be moved to action in this country. In My Opinion, People of no action should be ashamed of themselves.
It's not my business translated means Coward.
 
The police not having a duty to protect the civilians has been decided in court so that any time a civilian gets hurt they cannot sue the local PD. It is true that police carry their sidearms to protect themselves. Now, if you think that the police are going to sit there and watch you get assaulted and say that its not their job to protect you, I certainly hope you are mistaken.

I carry on duty to protect the public (and myself), I carry off duty to protect my family.

My original post was to kindly remind a fella that just because they have a LTC doesnt make them a LEO. You dont want to be mistaken for the bad guy when the shooting starts, and that does happen.
 
Austin said:
The police not having a duty to protect the civilians has been decided in court so that any time a civilian gets hurt they cannot sue the local PD. It is true that police carry their sidearms to protect themselves. Now, if you think that the police are going to sit there and watch you get assaulted and say that its not their job to protect you, I certainly hope you are mistaken..
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Sadly I am not mistaken...It has happened before unfortunately...

Case in point;

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