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Obama's America in 2015 is a nation that is ripe for Judgment

"And I set my face unto the Lord God, to seek by prayer and supplications, with fasting, and sackcloth, and ashes: And I prayed unto the LORD my God, and made my confession, and said, O Lord, the great and dreadful God, keeping the covenant and mercy to them that love him, and to them that keep his commandments; We have sinned, and have committed iniquity, and have done wickedly, and have rebelled, even by departing from thy precepts and from thy judgments: Neither have we hearkened unto thy servants the prophets, which spake in thy name to our kings, our princes, and our fathers, and to all the people of the land." Daniel 9:3-6 (KJV)

The above quoted passage from Daniel is one that spirituality should be be applied to America today. In Daniel 9, the prophet is on his face before God, confessing the sins of his nation and weeping for the refusal to follow Him and His precepts, laws and commandments. Israel is in Babylonian captivity because of their wickedness, and he goes on to say this: "Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him."Daniel totally nails it, and is rewarded by a personal visit by the Angel Gabriel.


In Obama's America in 2015, how the mighty have fallen.

In 1776, our first official Independence Day, America was off to a great start. Nearly every, single one of the Founding Fathers was a professing Christian or at least onboard with standing under the banner of the God of Abraham and the King James Bible. The list of God-centric quotes that can be attributed to them is well-known and a joy to read. Listen to the awesome words of Founding Father James Madison:

"We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all of our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind of self-government; upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God."
- James Madison

If a lawmakers stood up and talked like this in Obama's America in 2015, they would be accused of "hate speech" and driven out. Show me where the Ten Commandments of God as given to Moses still stand in our halls of laws and justice. They used to be in nearly every courthouse in America, now it has dwindled down to a precious, lonely few places you will find them displayed. Even our Declaration of Independence itself refers to the Almighty God of the Bible:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

Obama Breaks Promise To Not Use Obamacare For Taxpayer-Funded Abortions

In 1776, it was understood that men and women were created, and not a product of evolution, and that there is one Creator with a capital "C", who brought it all about. In 2015, people who hold to Biblical creation and stand against the Theory of Evolution of mocked and ridiculed. Christians are called "backwards thinkers" and laughed at. There is not one public school in America today that teaches Biblical creation or even acknowledges that there is one God, the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob.

A total of 730,322 abortions were reported to Centers for Disease Control for 2011, the most recent year numbers are available. We are a nation that calls the process of killing our weak and the helpless pre-born citizens a "right", and fight viciously to protect it. When Obamacare was being shoved down out throats, he made the promise that taxpayer dollars would never be used for abortion. But like everything else Obama says, that was a total lie. Abortion providers such as Planned Parenthood receive hundreds of millions of tax dollars every year under Title X, which subsidizes their overhead for promoting abortion as they divert more and more resources towards the killing of the unborn.

Obama Fundamentally Transforming the United States of America

In 2012, Planned Parenthood revealed a total income of $1.14 billion.Taxpayers shelled out $542 million to pad the abortion provider's bottom line through federal and state grants and contracts (or 45% of its entire income).

In June of 2015, the US Supreme Court ruled that sodomite "marriage" was equivalent to Civil and Human Rights, and declared it to be the Law of the Land. 2015 is also the year that is seeing a huge spike in Christian persecution against those who oppose the LGBT Movement's agenda and stand against it. Christian business owners are being hauled into courts all across America and being sued and driven into bankruptcy for their refusal to provide goods and services in support of LGBT "marriages".

Obama: We are no longer a Christian Nation

American Christians must be prepared for the coming persecution. Churches who will not perform same-sex "weddings" can say goodbye to their tax-exempt status, and pastors who preach against the LGBT agenda must be prepared for jail time. Rod Dreher, writing in an article in Time Magazine, has this to say about the recent US Supreme Court decision on same-sex marriage: "LGBT activists and their fellow travelers will be coming after social conservatives. The Supreme Court has now, in constitutional doctrine, said that homosexuality is equivalent to race. The next goal of activists will be a long-term campaign to remove tax-exempt status from dissenting religious institutions. The more immediate goal will be the shunning and persecution of dissenters within civil society."

President Obama and the Glorification of the LGBT Mafia

I could go on, but will conclude here with simply this.
America is no longer a Christian nation or anything even close to it like we were in 1776. In Obama's America in 2015, we are a resolutely anti-Christian nation who no longer fears God and could not care less about His Commandments. Make no mistake about it, our national Day of Judgment is coming, and the fall is going to be very hard. If our Founding Fathers could spend 15 minutes in the halls of Congress today, they would have no idea where they were. It would be unrecognizable to any one of them.

Where are the street corner preachers today? Where are Christians standing up to proclaim God's word and call people to salvation and repentance? If you are a Christian, what are you doing about it? The answer is not to join the Tea Party and carry signs against the government. The answer is stand up for the Holy Bible, and proclaim Jesus Christ to the lost and dying nation of these United States of America.

So as you enjoy the sun, fireworks and backyard barbeques today, just remember
that while we may have forgotten about God, He has not forgotten about us. In the history of the world, God has never allowed such grievous national sin to go unpunished, and He will not simply sweep America's many sins under the carpet. Judgment Day for our nation is coming, and I believe, has already started. As distasteful as it is to think about it, American can fall and will fall if we do not do as Daniel did, and get down on our faces and pray for mercy from the Almighty God of Abraham.

Are you ready for what comes next?
 
Obama stated if he wins he will fundamentally change America. So we gave him the opportunity to make those changes. The change was not good for the people or the nation. Many of us complained. Didn't matter many on the right stayed home and didn't vote in his re-election bid. The left rejoiced and got the vote out so he was re-elected. Obama's changes continue, many more people complain. Mid term elections put republicans in power with the promise to stop Obama and his changes. The decline continues. America has much to be proud of, but not much lately.
 
Holy crap. I just can't believe the drama queens sometimes.

aacx22: I know you are a young man and you are not only skeptical of posts such as this but you are also very derisive. I only wish that there was some way to convey to you that there is no drama involved here, only seriousness. Our nation is all but gone. At one time we were the greatest nation in the world and blessed by God. Not any more. As a young parent, you should be thinking of how our demise will have an effect on your family and what will happen to them when the nation does fall. You will see all the things foretold by the Bible happen right in front of you, just as has been prophesied, and you will be at a loss for your security and your family. Worse than anything to ever happen in history. I would only ask that you give a little more serious thinking to what is being said and make all preparation for both your spiritual and physical needs. Whatever comments are made, or thought of us, the people who are trying to encourage closeness to God, it is worth it if we can only open the eyes of one person. I do wish you well in the days ahead and you can joke about our posts but read your Bible and prove God wrong. Bet ya' can't!
 
This morning our reading was Daniel, Joel and Matthew. My daughter called and the very first thing I did was ask if she and her family were ready to meet face to face with Christ. I know (As much as any one may) she is saved but the others I do not. I told her to ask them before they go to bed. My wife and I had so many mixed feelings today. Tears of joy and of sadness. The things we as a Nation have done in the past 200 plus years the blood we have spilled for freedom, the far shores where our sons ard young men have died, the feeding of the poor. The Grace we were covered with that may be removed. Every time I hear G-d bless America I ask why would He? We kill 3,000 babies a day to the cause of a women's health care. The seven year cycle is here. The National debt, open borders the loss of the rule of law by the SCOTUS and the fourth branch of big bro the EPA, IRS, ATF to name a few. Today Obama had a speech and said every thing but G-d Bless America. He did say a few years ago G-d bless planned parenthood. It is late and I may have not made much sense but I hope this is clear in the A.M. I will check back just venting now.
 
aacx22: I know you are a young man and you are not only skeptical of posts such as this but you are also very derisive. I only wish that there was some way to convey to you that there is no drama involved here, only seriousness. However, unbeknownst to the Globalist elite, Almighty God has plans too and I do believe He’ll beat them to the punch because we just gave Him the finger for the last time. He’s had e-n-o-u-g-h. Judgment is coming, and soon! America is finished. Done. Toast. At one time we were the greatest nation in the world and blessed by God. Not any more. As a young parent, you should be thinking of how our demise will have an effect on your family and what will happen to them when the nation does fall. You will see all the things foretold by the Bible happen right in front of you, just as has been prophesied, and you will be at a loss for your security and your family. Worse than anything to ever happen in history. I would only ask that you give a little more serious thinking to what is being said and make all preparation for both your spiritual and physical needs. Whatever comments are made, or thought of us, the people who are trying to encourage closeness to God, it is worth it if we can only open the eyes of one person. I do wish you well in the days ahead and you can joke about our posts but read your Bible and prove God wrong. Bet ya' can't!
Since the Occupant was first elected,we have watched our beloved America shredded and decimated politically, economically, culturally, morally, militarily, and spiritually. That forked-tongue satanic puppet has accomplished precisely what The Powers That Be set him in office directed; he has destroyed what took over 200 years to build. He has “fundamentally transformed the United States of America.” With the heartbreaking decline we’ve witnessed, along with the icing on the proverbial cake,the decision to approve same-sex marriage by our out-of-control Supreme Court who has decided that they are more qualified than the Creator of the universe to define Holy Matrimony, I think everyone who has the Holy Spirit living within them knows that this was the final nail in America’s coffin; the final straw that broke the camel’s back in terms of inviting the wrath of God. We know from the Bible that the antichrist will head a world government known as the New World Order, with one political system, one monetary system and one world-wide religion officiated by the False Prophet. One problem. America is in the way. The New World Order cannot rise if a free, sovereign, superpower like America exists because the Globalists know we will fight to preserve our way of life. They want to subjugate us—not fight us. So this country must fall, and once the serious chaos begins to hit the fan, hundreds of thousands will be more than happy to go to the FEMA camps with the promise of getting food, water, showers, shelter and a clean bed. The local, national and international news gets darker every day. We’re surrounded by filth, sickness, disappointment, poverty, corruption, hatred, violence, lies and death every day. Some of you have probably heard preachers say “If God doesn’t judge America, then He’ll have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah.” Believe me…He won’t need to apologize. God doesn’t change His ways of dealing with sinful nations. Destruction is coming. Count on it. We cannot turn America around. It’s over. All that matters now is pleasing Jesus.
 
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Obama's America in 2015 is a nation that is ripe for Judgment

"And I set my face unto the Lord God, to seek by prayer and supplications, with fasting, and sackcloth, and ashes: And I prayed unto the LORD my God, and made my confession, and said, O Lord, the great and dreadful God, keeping the covenant and mercy to them that love him, and to them that keep his commandments; We have sinned, and have committed iniquity, and have done wickedly, and have rebelled, even by departing from thy precepts and from thy judgments: Neither have we hearkened unto thy servants the prophets, which spake in thy name to our kings, our princes, and our fathers, and to all the people of the land." Daniel 9:3-6 (KJV)

The above quoted passage from Daniel is one that spirituality should be be applied to America today. In Daniel 9, the prophet is on his face before God, confessing the sins of his nation and weeping for the refusal to follow Him and His precepts, laws and commandments. Israel is in Babylonian captivity because of their wickedness, and he goes on to say this: "Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him."Daniel totally nails it, and is rewarded by a personal visit by the Angel Gabriel.


In Obama's America in 2015, how the mighty have fallen.

In 1776, our first official Independence Day, America was off to a great start. Nearly every, single one of the Founding Fathers was a professing Christian or at least onboard with standing under the banner of the God of Abraham and the King James Bible. The list of God-centric quotes that can be attributed to them is well-known and a joy to read. Listen to the awesome words of Founding Father James Madison:

"We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all of our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind of self-government; upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God."
- James Madison

If a lawmakers stood up and talked like this in Obama's America in 2015, they would be accused of "hate speech" and driven out. Show me where the Ten Commandments of God as given to Moses still stand in our halls of laws and justice. They used to be in nearly every courthouse in America, now it has dwindled down to a precious, lonely few places you will find them displayed. Even our Declaration of Independence itself refers to the Almighty God of the Bible:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

Obama Breaks Promise To Not Use Obamacare For Taxpayer-Funded Abortions

In 1776, it was understood that men and women were created, and not a product of evolution, and that there is one Creator with a capital "C", who brought it all about. In 2015, people who hold to Biblical creation and stand against the Theory of Evolution of mocked and ridiculed. Christians are called "backwards thinkers" and laughed at. There is not one public school in America today that teaches Biblical creation or even acknowledges that there is one God, the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob.

A total of 730,322 abortions were reported to Centers for Disease Control for 2011, the most recent year numbers are available. We are a nation that calls the process of killing our weak and the helpless pre-born citizens a "right", and fight viciously to protect it. When Obamacare was being shoved down out throats, he made the promise that taxpayer dollars would never be used for abortion. But like everything else Obama says, that was a total lie. Abortion providers such as Planned Parenthood receive hundreds of millions of tax dollars every year under Title X, which subsidizes their overhead for promoting abortion as they divert more and more resources towards the killing of the unborn.

Obama Fundamentally Transforming the United States of America

In 2012, Planned Parenthood revealed a total income of $1.14 billion.Taxpayers shelled out $542 million to pad the abortion provider's bottom line through federal and state grants and contracts (or 45% of its entire income).

In June of 2015, the US Supreme Court ruled that sodomite "marriage" was equivalent to Civil and Human Rights, and declared it to be the Law of the Land. 2015 is also the year that is seeing a huge spike in Christian persecution against those who oppose the LGBT Movement's agenda and stand against it. Christian business owners are being hauled into courts all across America and being sued and driven into bankruptcy for their refusal to provide goods and services in support of LGBT "marriages".

Obama: We are no longer a Christian Nation

American Christians must be prepared for the coming persecution. Churches who will not perform same-sex "weddings" can say goodbye to their tax-exempt status, and pastors who preach against the LGBT agenda must be prepared for jail time. Rod Dreher, writing in an article in Time Magazine, has this to say about the recent US Supreme Court decision on same-sex marriage: "LGBT activists and their fellow travelers will be coming after social conservatives. The Supreme Court has now, in constitutional doctrine, said that homosexuality is equivalent to race. The next goal of activists will be a long-term campaign to remove tax-exempt status from dissenting religious institutions. The more immediate goal will be the shunning and persecution of dissenters within civil society."

President Obama and the Glorification of the LGBT Mafia

I could go on, but will conclude here with simply this.
America is no longer a Christian nation or anything even close to it like we were in 1776. In Obama's America in 2015, we are a resolutely anti-Christian nation who no longer fears God and could not care less about His Commandments. Make no mistake about it, our national Day of Judgment is coming, and the fall is going to be very hard. If our Founding Fathers could spend 15 minutes in the halls of Congress today, they would have no idea where they were. It would be unrecognizable to any one of them.

Where are the street corner preachers today? Where are Christians standing up to proclaim God's word and call people to salvation and repentance? If you are a Christian, what are you doing about it? The answer is not to join the Tea Party and carry signs against the government. The answer is stand up for the Holy Bible, and proclaim Jesus Christ to the lost and dying nation of these United States of America.

So as you enjoy the sun, fireworks and backyard barbeques today, just remember
that while we may have forgotten about God, He has not forgotten about us. In the history of the world, God has never allowed such grievous national sin to go unpunished, and He will not simply sweep America's many sins under the carpet. Judgment Day for our nation is coming, and I believe, has already started. As distasteful as it is to think about it, American can fall and will fall if we do not do as Daniel did, and get down on our faces and pray for mercy from the Almighty God of Abraham.

Are you ready for what comes next?
I have to work on this holiday, and I don't get to see my family at all, but the reason I'm supposed to be upset is because gays can marry?

You and I aren't even on the same plannet.
 
If they all lifted a cake high they would have gotten their point across instead of being disrespectful to all the men and woman that died for this country. No boundries. Their destiny is destruction, their god is their stomach and their glory is in their shame. Their mind is set on earthly things.

sinful nature is always hostile to God....
 
Obama stated if he wins he will fundamentally change America. So we gave him the opportunity to make those changes. The change was not good for the people or the nation. Many of us complained. Didn't matter many on the right stayed home and didn't vote in his re-election bid. The left rejoiced and got the vote out so he was re-elected. Obama's changes continue, many more people complain. Mid term elections put republicans in power with the promise to stop Obama and his changes. The decline continues. America has much to be proud of, but not much lately.

Do you not see the contradiction in your own line of thinking? You blame non-voters for Obama being elected, but acknowledge that even when Republicans are elected, nothing changes.

You people who have been scapegoating non-voters over Obama getting elected must not even know how presidents are elected in this country. Republican voters only have the potential to send Electoral College delegates to vote for a Republican if they hail from a red state. My state elected Republican delegates by 19 percentage points over Dems. My vote only had the potential to effect any difference of outcome if I voted Democracan. Voting Republicrat would've only had the potential to increase the margin of win for the Republicrats. No way would it have added a single electoral vote to the aggregate of the losing side. The overwhelming majority of non-voters across the country were in the same boat. Even the pundits said that it only had the potential to go either way in five or six "swing" states, and that Romney would've had to run the table in those states to gain enough electoral votes to take the election. NY state is never going to go red, so NY Republicrat voters should be able to stay home without the brainless barbs and scapegoating from their party and (mostly) ideologically-same compatriots in other states. Alabama is solidly red for the time being, and non-voters here should be able to escape the brainless scapegoating and shaming from the Sheeple who can't see through their blinders that voting doesn't matter a wit anymore!

As to the OP....

American Christians must be prepared for the coming persecution. Churches who will not perform same-sex "weddings" can say goodbye to their tax-exempt status, and pastors who preach against the LGBT agenda must be prepared for jail time.

Two things that those same pastors should've done and/or prepared for long before last week's SCOTUS ruling. I would no more consider joining a corporate church that is beholding to government for its' "liberty" to preach The Word than I would knowingly take the mark of the beast.

If you are a Christian, what are you doing about it? The answer is not to join the Tea Party and carry signs against the government. The answer is stand up for the Holy Bible, and proclaim Jesus Christ to the lost and dying nation of these United States of America.

A hard-won lesson I learned for myself on March 22, 2010. I can name that date as the turning point in both my spiritual and political life. I went to D.C. to fight against ObamaCare at great personal cost and inconvenience, and spent most of the night of the 22nd, after Stupak betrayed every promise he ever made about ObamaCare by voting for it, on the steps of the Supreme Court with about 200 or so others praying for that travesty to somehow be reversed. In 2012 when we thought our prayers had been answered by putting the question in the hands of John Roberts, we were betrayed again, only not by a Democracan like Stupak, but by one of "our own."

The only quarrel I have now with the above quote is where the author says the country is "...lost and dying." Wrong. This country has been dead for all intents and purposes at least since 1913 when the 16th and 17th Amendments were illegally inserted into the Constitution, and the Federal Reserve replaced The People's right and authority to influence and direct this country's monetary policies. My personal opinion is that the country died long before that, when the first RINO took office and conquered nine sovereign states for the "crime" of asserting their sovereignty. We here down in the South are still living under laws that originated with enemies of these sovereign states during "Reconstruction," which, from many of our viewpoints, should be rightly termed, "Reconquering."

In any case, though I was late to the realization myself, the only true hope for salvation for The People of this country is, and always has been, to "...stand up for the Holy Bible, and proclaim Jesus Christ to the lost and d[ead] nation of these United States of America."

Judgment Day for our nation is coming, and I believe, has already started

Indeed.

As distasteful as it is to think about it, American [sic] (America, or Americans?) can fall and will fall if we do not do as Daniel did, and get down on our faces and pray for mercy from the Almighty God of Abraham.

Not the point if what the author intended to say was "America." America has already fallen. It is up to each individual to prevent their own similar personal demise now. Government cannot in any way effect whether or not each individual is Saved or destined to an eternity in Hell. I pray for people's salvation, not government's restoration, because I believe the same thing the author does, it's already started and it's too late to restore this government. I believe the very notion of such national restoration is borne out of the normalcy bias Christians have developed for the corporate church. Government is no part of any church that I belong to.

Are you ready for what comes next?

I believe I am.

Maranatha!

Blues
 
"it is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free constitution is virtue"
John Adams
 
Ringo, your hate is actually disgusting. A group of citizens were finally guaranteed the rights most have enjoyed for years, and all you can do is spew your blind hate through some stunning self-imposed ignorance.

Why are you so homophobic? Your words remind me of the very vocal homophobic politicians or preachers who are later discovered to be closet homosexuals, and have been for years.
 
Do you not see the contradiction in your own line of thinking? You blame non-voters for Obama being elected, but acknowledge that even when Republicans are elected, nothing changes.

You people who have been scapegoating non-voters over Obama getting elected must not even know how presidents are elected in this country. Republican voters only have the potential to send Electoral College delegates to vote for a Republican if they hail from a red state. My state elected Republican delegates by 19 percentage points over Dems. My vote only had the potential to effect any difference of outcome if I voted Democracan. Voting Republicrat would've only had the potential to increase the margin of win for the Republicrats. No way would it have added a single electoral vote to the aggregate of the losing side. The overwhelming majority of non-voters across the country were in the same boat. Even the pundits said that it only had the potential to go either way in five or six "swing" states, and that Romney would've had to run the table in those states to gain enough electoral votes to take the election. NY state is never going to go red, so NY Republicrat voters should be able to stay home without the brainless barbs and scapegoating from their party and (mostly) ideologically-same compatriots in other states. Alabama is solidly red for the time being, and non-voters here should be able to escape the brainless scapegoating and shaming from the Sheeple who can't see through their blinders that voting doesn't matter a wit anymore!

As to the OP....



Two things that those same pastors should've done and/or prepared for long before last week's SCOTUS ruling. I would no more consider joining a corporate church that is beholding to government for its' "liberty" to preach The Word than I would knowingly take the mark of the beast.



A hard-won lesson I learned for myself on March 22, 2010. I can name that date as the turning point in both my spiritual and political life. I went to D.C. to fight against ObamaCare at great personal cost and inconvenience, and spent most of the night of the 22nd, after Stupak betrayed every promise he ever made about ObamaCare by voting for it, on the steps of the Supreme Court with about 200 or so others praying for that travesty to somehow be reversed. In 2012 when we thought our prayers had been answered by putting the question in the hands of John Roberts, we were betrayed again, only not by a Democracan like Stupak, but by one of "our own."

The only quarrel I have now with the above quote is where the author says the country is "...lost and dying." Wrong. This country has been dead for all intents and purposes at least since 1913 when the 16th and 17th Amendments were illegally inserted into the Constitution, and the Federal Reserve replaced The People's right and authority to influence and direct this country's monetary policies. My personal opinion is that the country died long before that, when the first RINO took office and conquered nine sovereign states for the "crime" of asserting their sovereignty. We here down in the South are still living under laws that originated with enemies of these sovereign states during "Reconstruction," which, from many of our viewpoints, should be rightly termed, "Reconquering."

In any case, though I was late to the realization myself, the only true hope for salvation for The People of this country is, and always has been, to "...stand up for the Holy Bible, and proclaim Jesus Christ to the lost and d[ead] nation of these United States of America."



Indeed.



Not the point if what the author intended to say was "America." America has already fallen. It is up to each individual to prevent their own similar personal demise now. Government cannot in any way effect whether or not each individual is Saved or destined to an eternity in Hell. I pray for people's salvation, not government's restoration, because I believe the same thing the author does, it's already started and it's too late to restore this government. I believe the very notion of such national restoration is borne out of the normalcy bias Christians have developed for the corporate church. Government is no part of any church that I belong to.



I believe I am.

Maranatha!

Blues

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Ringo, your hate is actually disgusting. A group of citizens were finally guaranteed the rights most have enjoyed for years, and all you can do is spew your blind hate through some stunning self-imposed ignorance.

Why are you so homophobic? Your words remind me of the very vocal homophobic politicians or preachers who are later discovered to be closet homosexuals, and have been for years.

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Ringo, your hate is actually disgusting. A group of citizens were finally guaranteed the rights most have enjoyed for years, and all you can do is spew your blind hate through some stunning self-imposed ignorance.
Why are you so homophobic? Your words remind me of the very vocal homophobic politicians or preachers who are later discovered to be closet homosexuals, and have been for years.
What rights are you referring to. If you are referring to marriage, there's nothing in the US Constitution that gives anyone a right to get married. People live together all the time. Marriage not required in any state that I'm aware of. Marriage is a religious celebration, has nothing to do with government. If you are referring to laws written as applied to married couples, those laws can be changed to reflect modern progressive thinking at any time. The US Constitution has provision to change laws. Take the word marriage out. There it's fixed. All the SCOTUS did was create another protected class of people. As for Christian tolerance, How about some progressive liberal tolerance for Christian beliefs. Tolerance is not a one way street. Progressive liberals have all kinds of tolerance for Muslim beliefs and they hate gays.
 
aacx22: I know you are a young man and you are not only skeptical of posts such as this but you are also very derisive. I only wish that there was some way to convey to you that there is no drama involved here, only seriousness. Our nation is all but gone. At one time we were the greatest nation in the world and blessed by God. Not any more. As a young parent, you should be thinking of how our demise will have an effect on your family and what will happen to them when the nation does fall. You will see all the things foretold by the Bible happen right in front of you, just as has been prophesied, and you will be at a loss for your security and your family. Worse than anything to ever happen in history. I would only ask that you give a little more serious thinking to what is being said and make all preparation for both your spiritual and physical needs. Whatever comments are made, or thought of us, the people who are trying to encourage closeness to God, it is worth it if we can only open the eyes of one person. I do wish you well in the days ahead and you can joke about our posts but read your Bible and prove God wrong. Bet ya' can't!

Oldgrunt, while I don't always see eye to eye with you, I always appreciate your approach. You definitely get my attention and I read your points and consider them seriously. Thanks for being one of the "adults" in the room. I still mean to finish that video too, it's just been jumping here this weekend as I'm deploying soon.
 
Ringo, your hate is actually disgusting. A group of citizens were finally guaranteed the rights most have enjoyed for years, and all you can do is spew your blind hate through some stunning self-imposed ignorance.

Why are you so homophobic? Your words remind me of the very vocal homophobic politicians or preachers who are later discovered to be closet homosexuals, and have been for years.

That's why I don't bother reading his posts most of the time. There is just nothing useful. Nothing good. Nothing interesting. It's just nonsense every single time.
 
Come on Ringo, did the truth sting that much? Not only are your positions disgusting, your responses are childish.

So tell me about why you are so homophobic? What urges are you suppressing with your rants. Is there a correlation between how loud one rails against homosexuality and what urges they are trying to repress?

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And tell me why you also have such a problem with other people having their rights and freedoms guaranteed under the Constitution, have you ever read it? Please point out where it says it applies only to certain groups.
 
I found this article at henrymakow.com, written by Joe Sobran (1946-2010). His is a summation of what most people I know feel about homosexuals. Don't think it is going to change anytime soon, regardless of any and all derogatory comments about homophobes, bigots, or otherwise.



Joe Sobran: Homosexuality - The Sober Truth

July 4, 2015


The courageous honesty of Joe Sobran
is becoming increasingly rare as a
leaden pall of Masonic Jewish (Communist)
political correctness descends over the West.




The West is controlled and defined by a satanic cult, Cabalist Judaism (Illuminati) that
wants you to believe that evil is good, and in the case of homosexuality, sickness is health.



by Joe Sobran
The Great "Gay" Racket (2001)
(henrymakow.com)

Getting in touch with my feelings the other day, I realized how I loathe homosexuals. All of them? Of course not. Some of them are funny, kind, intelligent, and otherwise pleasant. But homosexuals in general, yes. I can't stand them. Especially the ones who are organized under the rubric of gay rights.

I guess this makes me "homophobic." So what? Homophobia is one of those ugly cant-words -- like racist and sexist -- that no self-respecting speaker of the English language would use. (Try to imagine Abraham Lincoln calling someone "homophobic.") It's a verbal badge of groupthink.

Funny how the people who style themselves victims always want to bully everyone else. Diversity now means conformity. It means making sensible people afraid to contradict nonsense so obvious as to insult their intelligence.

Normal people find homosexuality, especially male homosexuality, repellent. We're supposed to apologize for that? Our slang words for the anus, and their use as insults, express our disgust with the whole idea of anal sex. Apart from the personal defilement it involves, it's grossly unsanitary.

My own feelings are intensified by personal experience. Believe me, when a child you love has been sodomized, it takes a lot of the romance out of buggery. What was merely disgusting becomes nauseating. You needn't hate the perpetrator -- who, in this case as in so many others, had been sodomized as a child himself -- to feel utter revulsion at the act, and contempt for those who try to endow it with dignity.

Will the victim now grow up to sodomize other boys? Will he come down with AIDS? Will he, on his wedding night, remember this first "sexual" experience?

Another instance of homosexual pedophilia has been in the news lately -- or rather, hasn't been in the news. In 1999, two Arkansas perverts raped, tortured, and murdered a 13-year-old boy; that crime has been almost totally ignored by the same news media that spent a year bewailing the murder of the homosexual Matthew Shepard. Because the boy was a victim rather than a victimizer of homosexuals, his story might hurt The Cause. No martyr he!

PEDOPHILES

The standard "gay" line on pedophilia is that most child molesters are heterosexuals. This is sheer propaganda. Homosexuals are only 1 or 2 percent of the general population (despite their inflated claims -- also propagandist -- of 10 percent), yet they are wildly disproportionate among pedophiles. [2% of population commit 33% of pedophile acts.-hm]

What is more important, though, is that most heterosexuals are more than willing to punish molesters of little girls. They don't make excuses for them or cover up their crimes. They recognize norms of behavior.

But pedophiles are an integral part of the "gay rights" movement. Does that movement repudiate them? Not at all. On the contrary, the North American Man/Boy Love Association is a regular and welcome contingent at "gay pride" marches. In England, organized "gays" agitate for lowering the age of consent for sex.

This stands to reason. Homosexuality is an abandonment not only of the normal, but of any norms. Once you approve of promiscuous anal sex with strangers, how can you draw a line against anything? Why not have anal sex with kids, if that's your thing?

And once again, the news media -- which love to highlight any "extremists" at conservative events -- refuse to report on pedophiles in the movement. It might embarrass The Cause. If it's "diversity" you want, don't look for it among journalists.

I used to feel sorry for homosexuals. However they became that way, it was an inclination I could only pity them for being saddled with, since so much of normal life was closed off to them. And I understand why parents who find out their sons are homosexual want to protect them, even if it means denying that homosexuality is a serious disorder. That's natural.

But no parent is glad to learn his son is "gay"; no parent would wish that condition on a child. This is why all the propaganda of "gay pride" rings false. Normal people aren't even proud of being normal; they take it for granted. But "pride" in an abnormality?

I don't blame anyone for being sick. I blame them for telling me that sickness is just another form of health.
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Related- Even Gays Say Their Behavior is Sick
---------- The Health Risks of the Homosexual Lifestyle (Thanks Linda)

- See more at: henrymakow.com - Exposing Feminism and The New World Order
 

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