Obama making 'inroads' with young evangelicals


HK4U

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I am sorry but I don't know how any true Christian that has been washed in the blood of Christ, whose sins have been forgiven and reads and know scripture could vote of him

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Behold, I have told you before. Matthew 24:24,25

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables 2 Timothy 4:3-4


Obama making 'inroads' with young evangelicals (OneNewsNow.com)

Obama making 'inroads' with young evangelicals
Jim Brown - OneNewsNow - 7/8/2008 9:25:00 AM

An evangelical public relations expert believes Barack Obama could potentially win a significant chunk of the evangelical Christian vote in November. A recent Rasmussen poll showed the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee currently drawing the support of 32 percent of voters who classify themselves as evangelicals.





Mark DeMoss is a former Mitt Romney adviser and president of The DeMoss Group, a public relations firm that works with evangelical groups. He says he would not be surprised if Senator Obama garnered as much as 40 percent of the evangelical vote in November, given that Bill Clinton received a third of the evangelical vote when he won reelection in 1996.

"The appeal that Barack Obama had apparently to millions of new voters and people from basically every segment of society who were attracted to his campaign for one reason or another, I would say evangelicals have not been exempted from that," he points out. Obama's outreach to younger evangelicals, tentatively called "Joshua Generation," includes a thousand house partices and dozens of Christian rock concerts.

He also notes that reports indicate many evangelicals are concerned about the environment, poverty, and criminal justice reform – issues that have not been front-burner issues, historically speaking, for that voting bloc.

But Demoss says he did not mention the 40 percent statistic to show his affinity for Barack Obama, rather to warn the McCain campaign not to take evangelicals for granted.
 

tattedupboy

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All I'm wondering is why isn't McCain jumping all over this? Barack Obama's sprint to the center couldn't be more obvious and McCain needs to exploit that.
 
Unfortunately Obama has a very good chance of winning in November, especially depending on his VP pick. McCain should have taken the same road and accept private donations instead of staying with the standard campaign. This would have given him more for ads and rebuttals. Now he has to wait and pick his battles.
 

kwo51

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They just want the anti crist to get it over with. Change it will be if he gets in. Thought police for hate crimes, more for unemployed and UN. All this is the path to socialism.
 

boris

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full of zeal,

but no brain. all emotion no logic. i am all for recycling. we turn old jars into drinking glasses and stuff like that. we need a miracle.
 

jwtollett21

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Obama 09

Most people vote on the real issues. Like the economy and the war in Iraq. Not moral issues which nothing will be done about. I thought everybody learned that on the first go around with George W. He has been in there for 8 years and nothing has been done. Just had a law passed to make it legal for same sex marriage in callifornia with which i may add has a republican gov. and what have they done. It's great that they are against it but it still happens anyway. It's up to the state People. come on.

Also, he is a christian himself.
 

HK4U

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Most people vote on the real issues. Like the economy and the war in Iraq. Not moral issues which nothing will be done about. I thought everybody learned that on the first go around with George W. He has been in there for 8 years and nothing has been done. Just had a law passed to make it legal for same sex marriage in callifornia with which i may add has a republican gov. and what have they done. It's great that they are against it but it still happens anyway. It's up to the state People. come on.

Also, he is a christian himself.

Yep, when it comes right down to a lot of issues Republicans may talk the talk but but often are not much better the the Demoncrats when it comes to walking the walk.
 

NDS

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Most people vote on the real issues. Like the economy and the war in Iraq. Not moral issues which nothing will be done about. I thought everybody learned that on the first go around with George W. He has been in there for 8 years and nothing has been done. Just had a law passed to make it legal for same sex marriage in callifornia with which i may add has a republican gov. and what have they done. It's great that they are against it but it still happens anyway. It's up to the state People. come on.
Also, he is a christian himself.

Discussing the religion of politicians, or their party afiliation, is a waste of time since they have no morals to base any belief system on. The only thing a modern politician seeks is power and self-aggrandizement. What you have touched on in your post, jwtollett21, is the importance of judicial appointments.

The people of California voted to make marriage between a man and a woman, the courts struck that down and and allowed gay marriage. Courts should not have the power to legislate. As for 8 wasted years, you can be pretty certain things would be very different had the other party had control. Probably not worse overall, certainly not appreciably better, but quite different. One place I'm sure things would have been much worse is judicial appointment. Democrats (and this might be changing at the grass roots level) tend to favor interpreting the Constitution and its history to reflect the current wishes. Republicans (unfortunately, fewer every year) tend to favor an 'as written' view of the Constitution and would need amendments to affect change. While I will never defend any Republican or Democrat politician, I'm pretty sure the Bush appointees are overall superior to those we'd have gotten under any of the available Democrats.
 

7.62

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Most people vote on the real issues. Like the economy and the war in Iraq. Not moral issues which nothing will be done about. I thought everybody learned that on the first go around with George W. He has been in there for 8 years and nothing has been done. Just had a law passed to make it legal for same sex marriage in callifornia with which i may add has a republican gov. and what have they done. It's great that they are against it but it still happens anyway. It's up to the state People. come on.

Also, he is a christian himself.

what does same sex marriage in CA have to do with Bush? Arnold is a RINO to the maximum and the gov. of the most left wing state in the country.

I have to disagree with you here 100% the past 8 years have not been a waste...also, Obama can claim he is a Christian all he wants, but when a person is for partial birth abortion and ok with gay marriage which is against the very foundation of the Bible and Christianity, i tend to think the man is full of crap.

If this country gets 4 years of Obama, it will be screaming to get Bush back. How easily people jump on the hat Bush bandwagon..
 

jwtollett21

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Your probally right guys. I am a christian and am against gay marriage and abortion but i just don't see either president making any real impact on those subjects. I wish they would. You just got to vote for your crook is basically what it comes down to. Also I get tired of America and specially people from around here trying to make the democrats look like none of them can be christians. And if anybody goes to a church that is favoring one candidate or the other you might want to consider moving. Cause that is not your churchs place. There is a law against that stuff.
 

7.62

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Your probally right guys. I am a christian and am against gay marriage and abortion but i just don't see either president making any real impact on those subjects. I wish they would. You just got to vote for your crook is basically what it comes down to. Also I get tired of America and specially people from around here trying to make the democrats look like none of them can be christians. And if anybody goes to a church that is favoring one candidate or the other you might want to consider moving. Cause that is not your churchs place. There is a law against that stuff.

Carter claimed to be a born again christian yet sold out his faith to get elected. Your faith comes BEFORE politics...i would never disown Christ or my faith to please the people. Be a man of faith and stick to it no matter what the party line is. I have no respect for "Christians" who are pro-abortion, pro gay marriage and roll with people who have disdain for my faith and work to remove my rights. Liberalism hates Christianity, unless is Rev. Wright Christianity.

The Bible states that God guides the hearts of Kings like a river and that He puts into power who He wants - regardless of who they are (see Herod). We could get 4 years of a lunatic who is propped up by America haters so this country wakes up....God works in mysterious ways, and we are to pray.
 

kwo51

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Yes I always had problems with God letting millons of babys be killed . Hitler was another one of Gods cruel leaders . I just pray he is a loving God, or we are really in for it.
 

jwtollett21

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Obama 09

the bible also says we are not to judge. If you think George Bush or Mccain, Obama or any of them are more christian than the other your crazy. If we were voting for a christian we probally couldnt' even vote. I think you should all come to reality. Also if Bush is so holy why don't he do something about all these jobs that have been shipped to Mexico. Maybe try and help the lower class like children's insurance for low income family's that he vetoed. What about this war that thousands are dying in. He is as corrupt as any body so please don't try and make any of them look holy. Just vote on the real issues.
 

7.62

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the bible also says we are not to judge. If you think George Bush or Mccain, Obama or any of them are more christian than the other your crazy. If we were voting for a christian we probally couldnt' even vote. I think you should all come to reality. Also if Bush is so holy why don't he do something about all these jobs that have been shipped to Mexico. Maybe try and help the lower class like children's insurance for low income family's that he vetoed. What about this war that thousands are dying in. He is as corrupt as any body so please don't try and make any of them look holy. Just vote on the real issues.

your talking politics, not faith. I am not making him look holy by any means what-so-ever. War is a Biblical principle as well. How many wars were fought in just the first 1/2 of the Bible? Needless to say, we all know what the book of revelation is full of.

I am not judging, i am looking at the persons fruit...
 

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