NY State carry permits

Katbil2

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I live in NJ and owne a home and 15 acers in Washington County for the past 20 plus years and am a advid hunter.

Is there any way to get a carry permit in Washington county. I currently have a Florida carry permit and am applying for a NJ permit as a Armed Security Guard.

What do I need to do short of changing my perement assress.
Can I be considered a dual resident since I spend 100 to 120 days each year in NY.
 
NYS law does not prohibit issuance of pistol permits to nonresidents, but a county can only issue pistol permits to residents of the county, and the state will not issue a pistol permit to a nonresident, so there is no way to get one.

In Bach v. Pataki a non-resident tried to force the issuance of a non-resident pistol permit but failed because the existing law did not impose the second amendment on the states, and did not provide for an individual right to bear arms.

the Heller decision and the expected outcome in the McDonald case may change the outcome of a case like Bach v. Pataki.

Bach had some decent credentials but still couldn't get NY to voluntarily issue a non-resident permit:

David Bach, a Virginia resident and domiciliary, wants to carry his Ruger P-85 9mm pistol while visiting his parents in New York. He has a permit from the Commonwealth of Virginia to carry a concealed weapon. Bach is a model citizen - he holds a Department of Defense top secret security clearance, is a commissioned officer in the United States Naval Reserve, a veteran Navy SEAL, a lawyer employed by the Navy's Office of the General Counsel, a father of three, and, perhaps most laudably, a son who regularly visits his parents in upstate New York.
 
I'll bet Mayor Bloomberg's security detail are all armed.

Its funny you say that. He brags about taking mass transit to work every morning with the everyday worker but doesn't tell about the long list of NYPD officer that race to each and every train station he stops in as he stops there as his security detail to secure the area... LOL that guy is a joke.
 
NY must be your permanent residence. And once you leave, you lose your CCW privileges.

There have been permits issued to non-residents. There are not many though. Most of the time, you need to own a full time business in that county. The chances of obtaining one are very small, but it has been done in the past.
 
NY must be your permanent residence. And once you leave, you lose your CCW privileges.


I've heard this before...but there is nothing in the statutes that says moving from the state is grounds for revocation. Now...renewing may be an issue...but the current permit should still be good until expiration.
 
In Erie County you must inform the pistol permit office of a change of address within 10 days. I'll bet that iif you change your address to an out of state address you'll get a revocation letter.
 
In Erie County you must inform the pistol permit office of a change of address within 10 days. I'll bet that iif you change your address to an out of state address you'll get a revocation letter.

Exactly. NY is a may issue state, and they can revoke your permit for any reason. Moving out of the state is one of them. I cannot find anything in the penal code that mentions this, but it is common practice.
 
All states, to the best of my knowledge, will revoke a resident permit on moving OUT of the state and you will either be issued or be required to apply for a non-resident permit if available. This is a good reason to have more than one permit.

A change of address without notification within a set period of time will also nullify your permit, resident or non-resident.

The concept of a national reciprocity bill, as with drivers licenses, makes it mandatory upon the state to recognize a permit issued, resident or non-resident, in any state of the Union, wherever your are in the USA, without recourse. End of story. I believe that in the beginning there were states that balked at reciprocity. That was quickly resolved by (a) the threat of non-recognition by any other state; and (b) the threat of withdrawal of any and all federal funding to the rogue state. All states fell into line immediately thereafter if I am not mistaken but I stand to be corrected on this.

A national reciprocity law should do nothing to legislate the requirements for the permit other than what is presently done (no felons, no whackos, etc.). It would only grant full reciprocity amongst states and stop making felons of good honest folk that simply want to travel with protection or for hunting. No further meddling would be undertaken.

Just my opinion but as a traveller half of every year, along with a few million others that do the same on a constant basis, it would be a godsend, especially if tied into the constitutional arguments; putting them to bed once and for all hopefully.
 
All states, to the best of my knowledge, will revoke a resident permit on moving OUT of the state and you will either be issued or be required to apply for a non-resident permit if available. This is a good reason to have more than one permit.

A change of address without notification within a set period of time will also nullify your permit, resident or non-resident.

The concept of a national reciprocity bill, as with drivers licenses, makes it mandatory upon the state to recognize a permit issued, resident or non-resident, in any state of the Union, wherever your are in the USA, without recourse. End of story. I believe that in the beginning there were states that balked at reciprocity. That was quickly resolved by (a) the threat of non-recognition by any other state; and (b) the threat of withdrawal of any and all federal funding to the rogue state. All states fell into line immediately thereafter if I am not mistaken but I stand to be corrected on this.

A national reciprocity law should do nothing to legislate the requirements for the permit other than what is presently done (no felons, no whackos, etc.). It would only grant full reciprocity amongst states and stop making felons of good honest folk that simply want to travel with protection or for hunting. No further meddling would be undertaken.

Just my opinion but as a traveller half of every year, along with a few million others that do the same on a constant basis, it would be a godsend, especially if tied into the constitutional arguments; putting them to bed once and for all hopefully.

I agree. It is bad policy to deny citizens of another state the same privileges if they are similarly licensed in their home state.

Hopefully, the McDonald provision will help move toward national reciprocity because it will eliminate the mis-conception by some states that they could exclude all firearms if they wanted to do so. I think many states did not want to give up that option by being subjected to national reciprocity, but once that option is eliminated they may no longer be able to block national reciprocity
 

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