NY Atty Gen. Schneiderman's version of Fast and Furious 10 month Gun Show Invest.

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Bloomberg sent NY Undercover Cops to Arizona to do the same thing in January 2011.
The Under covers performed perfectly legal acts in Arizona. Using Tax Payer resources to make headlines for your organization to increase donations or further your political cause should be illegal. No wait, it already is!

Bloomberg did this right after the Arizona Shooting to make a splash.
January 2011 Cumo takes office and appoints a long time anti gun
NY Senator Schniederman to Attorney General. Schneiderman is a Harvard man.

November 30 2011, Obama also a Harvard man visits the King of New York, Michael Bloomberg. While there also in NYC Schneiderman makes his splash about his investigation only he did not send agents to Arizona.

Bloomberg spends taxpayer money to get donations to Mayors Against Illegal Guns PAC
and Schniederman uses taxpayer money under the guise of enforcing the law to appease and impress Bloomberg and Obama.

Ok if they sent an undercover to a gun show and they were able to make an arrest from a private seller then make the arrest already.
The awareness would be built up and the law would be followed.
Doing this 10 times with no other purpose other than Headlines to create a reason for stricter legislation is just wrong.
I am sure that there were many failed sales that we will never hear about.
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A state investigation pinched 10 gun sellers for dealing weapons at gun shows without asking for required background checks from buyers.

Undercover officers posed as buyers and purchased the firearms at gun shows on Long Island and upstate even after telling the peddlers they couldn’t pass the background check, said state Attorney General Eric Schneiderman.

“In some cases, our undercover investigator even said, ‘You know, I want to get back at someone’ — and were sold guns,” Schneiderman said Wednesday.

Is SCOPE upset that people selling guns to buyers who stated they couldn't pass the background check and they wanted to get back at someone were caught and arrested?

What exactly is SCOPE's mission? To arm every idiot and crazy person in the United States?

 

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The action in AZ by Bloomberg is a straw purchase a criminal act under federal law.

 

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The action in AZ by Bloomberg is a straw purchase a criminal act under federal law.

Agreed Just as using public funds for personal or political gain is a crime.
So where is the outrage?

 

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Is SCOPE upset that people selling guns to buyers who stated they couldn't pass the background check and they wanted to get back at someone were caught and arrested?

What exactly is SCOPE's mission? To arm every idiot and crazy person in the United States?

Not at all. If you were paying attention. If they make a purchase from a guy at a gun show with out running a Nic Check the fine arrest him.
You are dutifully enforcing the law and giving warning to everyone out there to follow the law.
To do it the way it was done is purely political for the headline and spin which you have obviously swallowed hook line and sinker.
This is not about crazy s buying guns (your words not mine). It is about a group of crazies (Chuck Schumer, Bloomgerg, Schniederman, Obama) "CLOSING THE GUN SHOW LOOPHOLE" and manipulating the weak minded with spin and BS headlines.
If you can't see that then I can't help you.

 

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Not at all. If you were paying attention. If they make a purchase from a guy at a gun show with out running a Nic Check the fine arrest him.

That's exactly what happen. Sorry, but SCOPE is out in never never land on this one.

 

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Well this didn't take long now did it.
Notice the spin:
First of all it has what every anit gun bill has had and will have
"This is a bill that does not actually effect
law-abiding citizens or the Second Amendment,"
Gillibrand said,

Then there is the flat out BS
the bill comes on the heels of Schneiderman's announcement last week that his office had arrested 10 gun dealers who were caught selling guns to undercover agents who readily admitted they wouldn't pass a background check.

Gun Dealers? Really?

Wouldn't you agree this statement is misleading to the general public?

After all the gushing and self congratulations we are to be impressed that they did this on a Sunday.

Where is Chucky? Pulling the strings.

To Review: 10 months of going to Gun Shows
Obama comes to visit Bloomberg - Schneiderman makes news - now Gillibrand is making our NY issues National.

Just a coincidence right?

Gillibrand tries again, with Schneiderman's help, to push a gun bill | Capital New York

It was a Sunday press conference, and it was
about gun control. But it wasn't at the office of Chuck Schumer.

On Sunday afternoon, the state's junior senator,
Kirsten Gillibrand, hosted Attorney General Eric
Schneiderman and anti-gun advocates at her office
on Third Avenue, to announce she was
re-introducing the Gun Trafficking Prevention Act.

Schumer made guns a defining issue of his tenure
in the House, but, as he's ascended the Senate
leadership, and gun control has disappeared from
the agenda of the national party, the senior
senator has mostly ceded the issue to Gillibrand.

The junior senator, who had some making-up to do
with downstate liberals when she was elevated to
the Senate from her conservative-leaning House
district, first introduced the bill after her appointment in 2009.

"Senator Gillibrand's reintroduction of this bill
is one of the reasons she's a personal hero of
mine," said Michael Wolkowitz, who sits on the
board of the Brady Campaign to End Gun Violence,
in his remarks on Sunday. "The senator is at the
forefront of so many important issues that are
more frequently in the news ... And yet she
stands here on a Sunday reintroducing this bill.
She continues to show the courage to stand for
everything she believes is important."

Which is not to say that much has passed. Since
Schumer helped shepherd the Brady Bill to passage
in 1993, the National Rifle Association has
developed a death-grip on similar bills, with
gun-control advocates mostly playing defense
against pro-gun measures like the Thune
Amendment. Some local Democrats tried to push the
issue in the wake of Gabrielle Giffords' shooting
earlier this year, but none of those measures have advanced.

"It is really remarkable that in December of
2011, we have to stand here to hear Senator
Gillibrand say she's introducing a bill to make
gun trafficking illegal," said Schneiderman, who
championed several gun-control measures during
his time as a liberal state senator representing
the Upper West Side. "It's just astonishing."

The re-introduction of the bill comes on the
heels of Schneiderman's announcement last week
that his office had arrested 10 gun dealers who
were caught selling guns to undercover agents who
readily admitted they wouldn't pass a background
check. The bill would stiffen federal penalties
for gun sellers who skirt the background check.

"This is a bill that does not actually effect
law-abiding citizens or the Second Amendment,"
Gillibrand said, when asked why this bill might
be more successful than previous efforts. "I
think the reason why this has a chance or is the
type of legislation that could pass in a
bipartisan way, is that it's focused entirely on the criminals."

The last time Gillibrand introduced the bill, it
garnered only two co-sponsors—Schumer and New
Jersey Senator Frank Lautenberg—before stalling in committee.

 

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SCOPE comes to the AID of Gun Show Promoters after Schniederman Subpoena's Records

SCOPE has committed to an initial grant of $1000 from thieir legal defense fund to the Operators of the Gun Shows.
Despite what the news reports are saying, none of those arrested where
dealers, none of them paid for tables. All where walk-ins to the shows.

The promoters who are being targeted by the attorney general's office obeyed all existing and applicable laws.
In every case the promoters provided a station to get your NICS check done, with prominent signage.
SCOPE does not support those who knowingly break the law, however it is clear that the attorney general's office is less interested in the prosecution of these individuals then they are in using this as a political stunt to
1. Advocate for greater restrictions on the law abiding gun owners and sportsmen, and this is even more insidious,
2. To force legitimate businessmen out of the gun show business and close down all gun shows in the state.
SCOPE's support for NFC Shows is not only because they are SCOPE members with a history of supporting SCOPE and gun rights in NY, but more
importantly, because if we allow them to shut them down and run them out of business then we allow them to restrict access for everyone, and push their anti-rights agenda. The next step would be to ban all private transfers.
This must be stopped now, or the restrictions will continue, until we have no rights left at all.

Story here:
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This guy gets it.
From Buffalo News Letters to the Editor
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On Nov. 30, I read the article about the gun show stings conducted by the State Attorney General’s Office. The word “dealer” was misused in this article. The people arrested in this sting were not gun dealers and they do not hold a federal firearms license. They were individuals conducting private sales. These people broke the law, and that’s a fact and they should be punished.

But let’s not blame the promoters and actual dealers who are following the laws. The guns shows that I have attended have had signs posted and flyers stating that all transactions by dealers and private sales must have background checks performed, along with instructions on where to go and what to do.

This sting has a “let’s find someone who fails and blame everyone” motive with the gun shows as a target, and smells like a classic “blame the gun and not the criminal” stench. The attorney general stated the sting targeted the show operators, yet nothing stated that they had done anything illegal.

Of the thousands who attend, purchase and sell at these gun shows, only 10 people were arrested. The percentage is extremely small. Yet this has been all over the media, including newspapers, TV and radio, like this was a major crackdown. In fact, it was far from it. What we do not hear is how many man hours it took, or the stretch of time this was performed. Or even better, how many dealers and promoters were legitimate and law-abiding. If public safety is the matter of interest, as stated in the article, then why not give a presence at these shows promoting the laws and educating the public?


The investigation was out to get the promoters of Gun Shows and they did nothing wrong.
The headlines and story was release with inaccuracies that mis-represented the actual facts. To late though the damage has been done. Non gun owning public and the weak minded have read the story and are convinced that the gun shows are the problem.
Funny that an investigation that was the long time dream of the Anti-Gun Crowd was released around the time that Ex-Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich gets 14 years in prison in corruption case for using his power in return for contributions or political favor.
Schniederman Schumer, Gilibrand, and the like will now get the contributions from the anti gun PAC's and possible political favor from Obama and Bloomberg.
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