Big Gay Al
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Don't rely on any advice you get from here, either. You're going to read a mix of answers, and trying to figure out the right one, could cost you your pistol.
Non resident open carry in MI
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Big Gay Al
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Note, it says that ALL the conditions under Sec. 2 paragraph 8 must be met. Note to, it says in the beginning you must have a license to "purchase, carry, or transport" from their home state. I guess this is why Illinois' FOID card is recognized here, for that purpose.
So, unless Wisconsin issues a license to carry, purchase or transport firearms, better not bring any pistols to this state.
Jimyhoffer
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ya, I knew that lol.
I knew that what they would charge you with is having a non-registered pistol. What i do know know is the penalty, civil fine (and loss of the weapon) or misdemeanor with possible jail time and fine (and loss of the weapon).
either way, I'm pretty sure it would ruin your vacation.
In addition, not sure on this, you need to check it out on your own. The immunity statues in Michigan possibly would not apply, meaning that you could possibly be sued much easier. Of course as said earlier, don't trust me (or anybody on the web), check it out on your own.
you possible have another issue besides the illegal pistol. I am not sure on this, but i would suggest you check it out on your own. The Michigan DNR hunting laws are fairly restrictive for open carry in game areas, and where you snowmobile is likely to be a game area. You can concealed carry in game areas without restrictions from the DNR, but can not open carry without a hunting license in some cases (especially out of season). you may need to buy a hunting license to open carry where you are going to be snowmobiling. I think Varmints are open year round (its always fun to try to convince a DNR officer that you were squirrel hunting with a .45 lol and just as difficult as trying to convince him you were not poaching deer with that .45). Don't forget to check magazine restrictions. i am not sure on this, but i think you better check on it before your vacation is ruined. just saying.
lastly, I am not sure of the exact details, but i think i have heard somewhere that not all state laws apply to Indian reservations. if you head over to Mt. Pleasant (or any other Indian reservation), you really need to check this out. They have their own police force, and what you read about Michigan law may or may not apply. again, i am just saying, check it out.
As for not depending on the Michigan state police for what the law is, for the most part, they set the standard of what the officer on the street is taught, and thats the guy who is going to ruin your day. Seems to me IMHO, its a good idea to know what he has been trained to do. I agree that they are not the final arbitrator, but it costs lots of money and is a high risk task to get to the final arbitrator IMHO. If you have the money and are willing to take all the risks go for it.
good luck and have fun on your vacation.
I knew that what they would charge you with is having a non-registered pistol. What i do know know is the penalty, civil fine (and loss of the weapon) or misdemeanor with possible jail time and fine (and loss of the weapon).
either way, I'm pretty sure it would ruin your vacation.
In addition, not sure on this, you need to check it out on your own. The immunity statues in Michigan possibly would not apply, meaning that you could possibly be sued much easier. Of course as said earlier, don't trust me (or anybody on the web), check it out on your own.
you possible have another issue besides the illegal pistol. I am not sure on this, but i would suggest you check it out on your own. The Michigan DNR hunting laws are fairly restrictive for open carry in game areas, and where you snowmobile is likely to be a game area. You can concealed carry in game areas without restrictions from the DNR, but can not open carry without a hunting license in some cases (especially out of season). you may need to buy a hunting license to open carry where you are going to be snowmobiling. I think Varmints are open year round (its always fun to try to convince a DNR officer that you were squirrel hunting with a .45 lol and just as difficult as trying to convince him you were not poaching deer with that .45). Don't forget to check magazine restrictions. i am not sure on this, but i think you better check on it before your vacation is ruined. just saying.
lastly, I am not sure of the exact details, but i think i have heard somewhere that not all state laws apply to Indian reservations. if you head over to Mt. Pleasant (or any other Indian reservation), you really need to check this out. They have their own police force, and what you read about Michigan law may or may not apply. again, i am just saying, check it out.
As for not depending on the Michigan state police for what the law is, for the most part, they set the standard of what the officer on the street is taught, and thats the guy who is going to ruin your day. Seems to me IMHO, its a good idea to know what he has been trained to do. I agree that they are not the final arbitrator, but it costs lots of money and is a high risk task to get to the final arbitrator IMHO. If you have the money and are willing to take all the risks go for it.
good luck and have fun on your vacation.
Nightmare45
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One more state that will never make another dime off me.
Big Gay Al
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Wisconsin, or Illinois?
Golden Eagle
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Good find Big Gay Al the gun its self can't be here. All the all the discussions on ocdo and research I've done I've never seen that one. But you should have posted it a week ago now hyrczyk is in the woods and the Mich Leo's will now know to arrest anyone from WI, yeah its all your fault Al !
Be aware, The Federal Gun Free School Zones Act of 1995 makes it a federal felony for you to possess a loaded gun within 1000 feet of the property line of any K-12 school, unless you have a carry permit physically issued by the State in which the school is located. This makes it extremely difficult, if not impossible, for you to legally carry in developed areas. The law does not recognize State reciprocity agreements.
Big Gay Al
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Let's hope the LEOs in the area of hyrczyk are as ignorant of that part of the law as they are about the rest. :wink:
Big Gay Al
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Personally, I think the Federal GFSZ act is unconstitutional.
The United States Appellate Courts for the First, Third, Sixth, Eight, Ninth, Tenth, and Eleventh Circuits disagree with you.
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Big Gay Al
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It's not my fault that they're wrong. :biggrin:
S&W645
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Courts have been wrong before.
Golden Eagle
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I haven't stopped thinking about this, If you get an out of state carry license like I suggest on page 1 and have a good Michigan friend who owns a pistol you would be legal to oc it. Link Removed
I haven't stopped thinking about this, If you get an out of state carry license like I suggest on page 1 and have a good Michigan friend who owns a pistol you would be legal to oc it. Link Removed
