‘Nobody Is Born Gay’

Ringo

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PFOX billboard in Virginia ignites firestorm of controversy

“For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;” Romans 1:26-28

Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays & Gays (PFOX) is a national non-profit organization committed to helping ex-gays and parents and friends of gays who want help, hope and community, so says their info the About Us section of their website. They go on to say that PFOX exists to educate, support, and advocate for individuals and parents on the issue of same-sex attraction, and increase others’ understanding and acceptance of the ex-gay community. Now their billboard campaign has ignited a firestorm of controversy in Virginia with people on both sides of the issue sounding off. Many ex-gays will tell you that at one point in their life they thought they were “born gay.”, PFOX states. The reality is that no scientific evidence has established a genetic cause for homosexuality or found a “gay gene.” There is no DNA or medical test to determine if a person is homosexual. Sexual orientation is a matter of self-affirmation and public declaration. “Gay” is a self-chosen identity. According to the American Psychiatric Association, there are no replicated scientific studies to support that people can be born “gay” or that homosexuality is innate.

According to the American Psychological Association, “although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors.” LGBT spokesperson Beth Panilaitis, Executive Director at Rosmy, an organization that supports LGBTQ youth, said “I am shocked and really disappointed that at the end of 2014, we have a billboard in the middle of our city that says that kind of hate.” NTEB reviewed the claims of PFOX, and found nothing “hateful” anywhere on the site. Certainly, in a free and open society, opposing views are allowed or should be allowed as part of the national conversation. But it is a typical tactic of the LGBT Mafia to out-of-hand dismiss any and all dissent to their position as “hateful and intolerant”. The LGBT does not allow for any points of view that run contrary to their message. Either you agree with them or they attack you by any means they have at their disposal. Stories that highlight the massive intolerance and hate wielded by the LGBT Mafia include stories like the Colorado Christian Baker Forced To Make A Gay-Themed Wedding Cake, the Lost Reality Show Of The Benham Brothers, the Attack On Duck Dynasty, the Massive Fine Levied To Christian Farm Owners, the draconian Chase Bank LGBT Employee Survey Question, and the list goes on and on.

NTEB applauds PFOX for presenting their message in an articulate and intelligent fashion without resorting to emotional attacks or rebuttals. Clearly this conversation is not over.

- NTEB News Desk -



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MARANATHA! :victory:
 
Whenever a former homosexual tries to speak about his or her return to a heterosexual lifestyle (the one God and nature intended for them), a conversion from whatever way, he or she is very quickly shut down by the homosexual lobby just as are women that refused to get an abortion and gave the child up for adoption. Are bi-sexuals born that way as well. There are some very unfortunate folks that are born with screwed up genetic material in which case a person may be a hermaphrodite, but those are very rare and they do deserve our respect as we respect every human life.
 
Except they are!

Little boy next door, about the same age as my daughter and they played together for years, starting while both still in diapers. Yea, it was clear he was going to turn out gay, and he did.

It's like being left handed, born that way, it is obvious from an early age.
 
Speaking of Gay, Rock Hudsons best movie was Mans Favorite Sport, with Paula Prentiss.
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There isn't a genius gene either, but no one denies there are geniuses and that it isn't passed from generation to generation.
There isn't a financial genius gene, but no one denies that some people, even those with inadequate schooling have become wealthy.

Some people like blondes, some brunettes and some red heads, others like blonds, brunets and red heads. Just because there isn't a gene for something doesn't mean it can't happen. Genes just mean the trait isn't passed on from generation to generation.
 
Homosexual perversion has nothing to do with genes, it all has to do with a disease that every human is born with. The Bible calls this disease SIN, and this disease IS passed on from generation to generation. There is only ONE CURE for SIN, in the Bible it's called REPENTANCE. Many people reject the Bible because they say that the Bible contradicts itself, but that's not true. People don't reject the Bible because the Bible contradicts itself, people reject the Bible because the Bible contradicts them.

Life Is Good. :dance3:


MARANATHA! :victory:
 
James 1:12/14

12 Blessed is the man who endures temptation; for when he has been approved, he will receive the crown of life which the Lord has promised to those who love Him. 13 Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am tempted by God”; for God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He Himself tempt anyone. 14 But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed. 15 Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death.
 
Being retired and loving to search and research issue tearing us apart I have dived deep into this issue. Taking advantage of the vast data base called the internet one may search every single Bible version in English, down load into a pdf format and search for words and phrases. This includes Strong's, every commentary and other valuable tools. One site has Strong's numbers above each word with a thread to another site for Hebrew/Greek translations. Also worth noting are the gay Christian and the anti-gay Christians. I have a three inch binder with my research into this, no ifs ands or buts sexual sins in the old and new Testament are taken very seriously by my Lord. Romans is just one of the books that teaches of the great sins of the flesh. Being a child of the 1960's free love I sinned greatly. Taking the body to an harlot is taking personal sin to the Body of Christ. Over the Holly days we just had I chatted in great detail with my soon to be going to college grand daughter telling her about hard core facts of life. I warned her of the dangers of her new freedom from the parents and the liberals she would run into and that it might be her first encounter with lesbians. She found out grand pa was not all jokes and fun games but a hard core person with a past. No, sexual sins are always against the body. I could go on, and I do but this is a quick post.
 
Except they are!

Little boy next door, about the same age as my daughter and they played together for years, starting while both still in diapers. Yea, it was clear he was going to turn out gay, and he did.

It's like being left handed, born that way, it is obvious from an early age.

You got it right. It's been this way forever. One out of 9 are left handed. About 1 in 20 are homosexual. It does not vary very much among all world cultures. Wiring is wiring. Let it be.

We can do nothing to change it.
 
I don't think people are born gay except that people are born with a sinful nature, As in the Scripture above people's own desires lead them to sin.
 
Question. How many people did Jesus baptize? Jesus may not have said anything about homosexuals but His Father did and so did Paul.
 
I don't think people are born gay except that people are born with a sinful nature, As in the Scripture above people's own desires lead them to sin.

Your problem is you don't think, you let the ancient superstitions of long dead goat herders do your thinking.

Today left handed people are accepted as normal, just left-handed, no longer considered as a 'defective', but that was not always the case. My grandmother, born in the 1880's was left handed, and she was persecuted, chastised, and punished in school and forced to learn to write with her right hand. The same ignorance that you demonstrate with your sinful nature bull excrement.
 
OK, should I post the sites I have researched this issue of homosexuality, faith and politics? Will it do any good?

(sent from behind my coffee table in the house on my Scorpion Ranch.)
 
Your problem is you don't think, you let the ancient superstitions of long dead goat herders do your thinking.

Today left handed people are accepted as normal, just left-handed, no longer considered as a 'defective', but that was not always the case. My grandmother, born in the 1880's was left handed, and she was persecuted, chastised, and punished in school and forced to learn to write with her right hand. The same ignorance that you demonstrate with your sinful nature bull excrement.

I completely understand . Myself and one of my five siblings were born left handed. My much older sister (16 years) went to a parochial school and was pushed to write right handed in the early 1930's. It certainly affected her emotionally for the rest of her long life.

I was more fortunate, being a War Baby, and by the late 1940's more commonsense was abounding. I had to put up with the right handed desks of those days, but there was no longer any coercion to switch hands. What a difference those 16 years made!

We have now come a long ,long way in understanding human sexuality since those barren years.
 
OK, should I post the sites I have researched this issue of homosexuality, faith and politics? Will it do any good?

No, just because you found some whack jobs musings of ignorance on the internet does not give it any credence at all.

One can find sites that would "prove" that the earth is flat, but it doesn't mean the earth is flat.

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OK, should I post the sites I have researched this issue of homosexuality, faith and politics? Will it do any good?


Seriously??
Your ""studies"" were done by three religion themed websites? Do you think that, just maybe there's a bit of prejudice for a certain result in their ""studies""?

Where's the actual, raw data?
Where's the peer review?

That's the same kind of ""study"" that concludes "Guns Я Bad" when conducted by HandgunControl.Org.
 
Oh, it is a small sample of three years study a quick reference. Now as to my hard research, Hebrew/Greek/English, print outs, however with an old quote from Bill O'Reilly, "If you use your faith to argue against same sex unions you will loose". This is the only research I have done on THIS issue. Gosh, no, it is not my only reference of study but one pro and two con sites. I could care less in a secular mode to me it is the same sex LGBTs pushing it down my throat and that of my family. The issue of the Christian bakers forced to bake a so called wedding cake for an LGBT even but the recent traditional person who went to a so called Gay baker to have a traditional wedding cake baked being denied. I don't care if a person wants to marry a chicken and have the eggs as kids, just don't make my church or town have to accept them. The last site is a "Gay" site I posted for reference if anyone cares to view this.
 

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