New York Rounds

[ITCH]

Private sales of assault weapons to someone other than an immediate family would be subject to a background check through a dealer. Also Internet sales of assault weapons would be banned, and failing to safely store a weapon could be subject to a misdemeanor charge.

Ammunition magazines would be restricted to seven bullets, from the current 10, and current owners of higher-capacity magazines would have a year to sell them out of state. An owner caught at home with eight or more bullets in a magazine could face a misdemeanor charge.


My Thoughts:

I read this concerning gun laws they wanna pass in NY. The thing that boils my ass with all of this is not only because of our 2nd amendment rights but as a responsible gun owner i have spent a lot of money on magazines for my firearms over the years and if the government wants to set limits on magazines or the number of rounds we can have in a magazine then hell the government should be required to reimburse me and all the other millions and millions of Americans for our magazines we already have. So i guess the money and tax we have paid already to the government for what we have now is a total loss. If you notice they are talking about all these bans and what they want to limit or what they want to pass. What about stuff people really want to know. No answers. What are they gonna do raid peoples houses to see how many rounds we have in our magazines. This **** is getting so stupid it ain't even funny.

What about the tax we have already paid to the government for the magazines we already have? Oh just toss them and when everything is worked out with all the politics just buy you some new 7 round magazines. Yeah you keep thinking that. All i can say is bring a army cause you will need it to take what i have.

 

[golocx4]

Limit ammunition clips to seven. It’s now 10 (Except Criminals)
Force gun owners to renew their licenses every five years (Except Criminals)
Stiffen penalties for using a gun in the commission of a crime
Stiffen penalties for bringing a gun on school property (Doesn't count if the mass murder commits suicide)
New restrictions on the assault weapons already owned by New Yorkers (?????)

This is a pure power grab by Cuomo, he wants to be the first one to pass a gun ban since Newtown. He will of course get national recognition and high fives from 0bama at the State of the Union address. All to set himself up for the presidential run in 2016.

 

[ITCH]

Yes but the way i am understanding this is if you have magazines that hold more then 7 rounds and you live in New York you will get charged. Is this correct? Just wondering i have family there. I guess the next thing the government will do is tell us what brand tissue paper we can wipe our butts with and how many sheets to use.

 

[BUmmedic]

Just passed 43-18, by a Republican-controlled Senate, no less. What a crock! I'm so glad I don't live there anymore. I have dear friends who will be greatly affected by these changes.

 

[ITCH]

What you mean. It will be hitting us all soon just a matter of time. There are so many people selling Mac-10s online right now it ain't even funny all over the place lol

 

[Itstjs]

Wow, gotta love the knee jerk reactions to gun violence, sad thing is they really dont care, they think theyre making the general public happy. Why not tackle the real problems in America? Law abiding gun owners are not the issue here...They will never understand criminals will continue to refuse to obey the laws....Theyre turning every American into a criminal

 

[Etkini]

Here's the bill:

S2230-2013 - NY Senate Open Legislation - Licensure, suspension and revocation of firearms licenses - New York State Senate

Most notable points:

-The proposed amendments replace the existing ban consisting of and a "two-feature" test adopted from the now-expired federal assault weapons ban with a clearer "one-feature" test. The "two-feature" test bans any gun that is semi-automatic, has a detachable magazine (in the case of pistols and rifles), and possesses two features that are commonly associated with military weapons. The "one-feature" test would ban semi-automatic guns with detachable magazines that possess one feature commonly associated with military weapons.

-Within one year of the effective date, all weapons defined as assault weapons under the new "one-feature" test, as well as weapons grandfathered in under the original assault weapons ban, must be registered. Current owners of these banned weapons may transfer the weapons only to a firearms dealer or transfer to an out of state buyer. All registered owners will be subject to a review of disqualifiers by the State Police.

-...ban all large capacity magazines that have the capacity to hold more than ten rounds of ammunition including those that were grandfathered in under the original assault weapons ban and creates a new ban on magazines that hold more than seven rounds of ammunition. Magazines that can hold more than seven rounds but not more than ten rounds and are currently possessed will be grandfathered in, but may only contain seven rounds of ammunition. Exceptions are made for large capacity magazines that are curios or relics.

-...sellers of ammunition register with the superintendent of the State police (2) that prior to a sale of ammunition, a seller must run the buyer through a State-created review of disqualifiers to ensure that the buyer is not prohibited by law from possessing ammunition, and (3) that ammunition sales are electronically accessible to the State. In addition, to prevent from purchasing ammunition, the bill requires that any ammunition sold commercially must be conducted by a seller that can perform a background check.

-...establishing a statewide gun license and record database.

-...requiring background checks to be completed for all gun sales, except for immediate family. Thus private sellers may transfer a gun only if the buyer has obtained a federal "NICS" check.

 

[Ryan.moran]

Here's the bill:

S2230-2013 - NY Senate Open Legislation - Licensure, suspension and revocation of firearms licenses - New York State Senate

Most notable points:

-The proposed amendments replace the existing ban consisting of and a "two-feature" test adopted from the now-expired federal assault weapons ban with a clearer "one-feature" test. The "two-feature" test bans any gun that is semi-automatic, has a detachable magazine (in the case of pistols and rifles), and possesses two features that are commonly associated with military weapons. The "one-feature" test would ban semi-automatic guns with detachable magazines that possess one feature commonly associated with military weapons.

-Within one year of the effective date, all weapons defined as assault weapons under the new "one-feature" test, as well as weapons grandfathered in under the original assault weapons ban, must be registered. Current owners of these banned weapons may transfer the weapons only to a firearms dealer or transfer to an out of state buyer. All registered owners will be subject to a review of disqualifiers by the State Police.

-...ban all large capacity magazines that have the capacity to hold more than ten rounds of ammunition including those that were grandfathered in under the original assault weapons ban and creates a new ban on magazines that hold more than seven rounds of ammunition. Magazines that can hold more than seven rounds but not more than ten rounds and are currently possessed will be grandfathered in, but may only contain seven rounds of ammunition. Exceptions are made for large capacity magazines that are curios or relics.

-...sellers of ammunition register with the superintendent of the State police (2) that prior to a sale of ammunition, a seller must run the buyer through a State-created review of disqualifiers to ensure that the buyer is not prohibited by law from possessing ammunition, and (3) that ammunition sales are electronically accessible to the State. In addition, to prevent from purchasing ammunition, the bill requires that any ammunition sold commercially must be conducted by a seller that can perform a background check.

-...establishing a statewide gun license and record database.

-...requiring background checks to be completed for all gun sales, except for immediate family. Thus private sellers may transfer a gun only if the buyer has obtained a federal "NICS" check.

thank you for providing this. i have been trying to find a run down of exactly what it said because i havent had to time to read it. i knew about it all pretty much. do you know if it said anywhere about creating a law for pistol permit holders making them need to renew them every 3 or 5 years?

 

[ITCH]

There is my question. So if you have a magazine that holds more then 7 rounds you can have it but you half to only have 7 rounds in the magazine at one time for it to be legal. Correct?

 

[Ryan.moran]

There is my question. So if you have a magazine that holds more then 7 rounds you can have it but you half to only have 7 rounds in the magazine at one time for it to be legal. Correct?

the way i am understanding it from pieces of the bill i have seen and what others are also saying is that you can only have 7 rounds in a magazine. ten round magazines will be grandfathered in but you can only load up to 7 rounds in one magazine.

 

[ITCH]

That is how i am understanding it also. Wondering if they are counting chamber? Not very specific are they. Most likely this will fall in many many states or most will follow. I would guess anyways.

 

[Etkini]

thank you for providing this. i have been trying to find a run down of exactly what it said because i havent had to time to read it. i knew about it all pretty much. do you know if it said anywhere about creating a law for pistol permit holders making them need to renew them every 3 or 5 years?

"Section 48 of the bill amends the Penal Law to require that every county recertify a gun license holder's license every five years. Failure to recertify during this five year period equates to revocation of the license."

I don't believe they're just talking about pistol permit holders anymore.

Edit:
Here's what I was talking about:

"Section 49 creates a new Penal Law � 400.02 establishing a statewide gun license and record database. "
"Section 18 amends Section 212 of the Judiciary Law to require that records submitted to the Federal Bureau of Investigation regarding individuals for whom a guardian has been appointed be transmitted to the State and checked against the statewide gun license and record database."

 

[JSM&P9C]

I'll just have to carry more 10 round mags with 7 rounds in them. Boy, they really outsmarted those criminals with this Einsteinesque law.

 

[JSM&P9C]

That is how i am understanding it also. Wondering if they are counting chamber?

Probably not. What law abiding citizen would carry a scary gun with a scary round in the chamber anyway? (sarcasm)

 

[Ryan.moran]

im sure they are not counting chamber. the current law had a 10 round limit on magazines, you were allowed 1 in the chamber and 10 in the magazine.

and great this 5 year renewal is going to be crazy expensive im sure.

 

[ITCH]

Recertify is just away to make more money off people of course. Here in TN you half to pay every four years. I am sure that will change and price will be jacked up also. I'll just buy more magazines and load only 7 rounds. Wow talk about ammo prices jumping lol

 

[Etkini]

That is how i am understanding it also. Wondering if they are counting chamber? Not very specific are they. Most likely this will fall in many many states or most will follow. I would guess anyways.

NY (as it should be..for once) has always differentiated between a magazine and a firearm. With the new law, if you own a 10rd magazine that's grandfathered you will not be able to load it with more than 7 rounds. It does not count the round chambered.

I can't wait to see them trying to bring down people for miscounting and loading 8 rounds in their magazine instead of 7.

 

[JSM&P9C]

NY (as it should be..for once) has always differentiated between a magazine and a firearm. With the new law, if you own a 10rd magazine that's grandfathered you will not be able to load it with more than 7 rounds. It does not count the round chambered.

I can't wait to see them trying to bring down people for miscounting and loading 8 rounds in their magazine instead of 7.

Well we can solve some of NY's unemployment. Just need to hire OAC officers (Official Ammo Counters) who spend their time similar to meter maids only they will check your mags. I am embarressed to say I am a NY'er. Crayzy Andy, his policies are INSANE (for all you Crazy Eddie commercial lovers - a NY joke).

 

[ITCH]

Yeah gonna get a fine for 1 round over LMFAO.

 

[Etkini]

Well we can solve some of NY's unemployment. Just need to hire OAC officers (Official Ammo Counters) who spend their time similar to meter maids only they will check your mags. I am embarressed to say I am a NY'er. Crayzy Andy, his policies are INSANE (for all you Crazy Eddie commercial lovers - a NY joke).

I lived in New York for all my my life minus the past 6 months. I work for NYS, but live in Vermont for a myriad of reasons. Don't be embarrassed, I'm still proud to say I was born and raised in Upstate New York. This isn't just a fight we have to deal with in NYS, it will soon be coming at us on a federal level - then it won't matter where you live, we'll all be in the same boat. I've been trying to fight as much I can for NYS, but even here in VT they're trying to pass absurd laws banning "assault weapons."

Yeah gonna get a fine for 1 round over LMFAO.

It's not a fine, it's a misdemeanor.


I wish we had this kind of common sense today:
‎"To prohibit a citizen from wearing or carrying a war arm . . . is an unwarranted restriction upon the constitutional right to keep and bear arms. If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of constitutional privilege." [Wilson v. State, 33 Ark. 557, at 560, 34 Am. Rep. 52, at 54 (1878)]