New signs in Texas?

[Bighouse Doc]

Every summer I go to events which take me through Texas.

This year I have noticed signs at most convenience stores, Wal-Marts, etc about consuming alcoholic beverages, and the fact that unlicensed carry is a felony.

Is there some new law I missed?

-Doc

 

[Nightmare45]

Nope been around a while, may they ABC is being more forceful.

 

[gwjohns82]

Yeah been around for as long as I remember. I work at a retail store and we have those signs

 

[Military Man]

Every summer I go to events which take me through Texas.

This year I have noticed signs at most convenience stores, Wal-Marts, etc about consuming alcoholic beverages, and the fact that unlicensed carry is a felony.

Is there some new law I missed?

-Doc

Since the 1960's, Do not remember the exact date, It has been a felony to possess a firearm where Alcohol was sold or consumed. When the conceled carry law was passed, we who have a license to carry are now allowed to carry where Alcohol is now sold or consummed except where it is sold and the buisness makes more than 51% of its money from the sale. The 51% does not apply to liquor stores where consumption is off the premises.

So what this means is you can go into stores that sell beer wine ect as long as more than 51% of their money comes from other sales. Bars/taverns are off limits because their profits are from the sale/consumption of drinks on site

 

[Shoobee]

Since the 1960's, Do not remember the exact date, It has been a felony to possess a firearm where Alcohol was sold or consumed. When the conceled carry law was passed, we who have a license to carry are now allowed to carry where Alcohol is now sold or consummed except where it is sold and the buisness makes more than 51% of its money from the sale. The 51% does not apply to liquor stores where consumption is off the premises.

So what this means is you can go into stores that sell beer wine ect as long as more than 51% of their money comes from other sales. Bars/taverns are off limits because their profits are from the sale/consumption of drinks on site

Those rules make perfect sense, since as most people eventually find out the drunks in a bar can stir up a lot of trouble, and so keeping firearms in your car is a much smarter idea.

Last new years eve, there was one particular drunk at the bar where I went to celebrate who was causing a lot of trouble for everyone. I had brought a snack tray that night consisting of salami cheese and crackers, and after he partook of some, rather than show his gratitute, he tried to pick a fight with me.

He was so drunk however that he would not last 5 seconds. I just keep my interval with him, and maintained my eye contact, watching his hands at all times, and let him vent. Finally he floundered off outside to have a smoke. In his flip flops it would have been easy to crush his toes with my motorcycle boots. And since I can quickly draw and snap open my fighting knife, it would have been easy to blind both his eyes. So I was not suffering from any inferiority next to him, and it would have been like shooting a fawn, so I left him alone and let him talk.

Add guns to that scenario and you could easily end up with a gunfight in a bar with lots of bystanders getting shot as well.

Case in point.

 

[snatale42]

Those rules make perfect sense, since as most people eventually find out the drunks in a bar can stir up a lot of trouble, and so keeping firearms in your car is a much smarter idea.

So you think it makes perfect sense to ASSUME that everybody that carries will drink, get drunk while carrying and cause in issue? I got into places all the time that in TX would prohibit carry, I don't drink then! Maybe I want to meet a friend or eat! That 51% crap is ridiculous. If I want to go to a bar and get smashed, I won't carry. TX isn't half as gun friendly as people think it is.

 

[jg1967]

Since the 1960's, Do not remember the exact date, It has been a felony to possess a firearm where Alcohol was sold or consumed. When the conceled carry law was passed, we who have a license to carry are now allowed to carry where Alcohol is now sold or consummed except where it is sold and the buisness makes more than 51% of its money from the sale. The 51% does not apply to liquor stores where consumption is off the premises.

So what this means is you can go into stores that sell beer wine ect as long as more than 51% of their money comes from other sales. Bars/taverns are off limits because their profits are from the sale/consumption of drinks on site

So you ask them for their balance sheet before you go in? No offense, but...

 

[coachdb18]

So you ask them for their balance sheet before you go in? No offense, but...

Putting rules like this in the path of those who CCW is merely intimidation by legislature. They know there's an unreasonable aspect to such a requirement, and that is exactly their point. Imagine if they put a requirement that you know the balance sheet and alcohol consumption habits of the place you go to vote before being allowed to exercise that right (ie a church used in my district)!

 

[jg1967]

So you think it makes perfect sense to ASSUME that everybody that carries will drink, get drunk while carrying and cause in issue? I got into places all the time that in TX would prohibit carry, I don't drink then! Maybe I want to meet a friend or eat! That 51% crap is ridiculous. If I want to go to a bar and get smashed, I won't carry. TX isn't half as gun friendly as people think it is.

They certainly do have some strange laws ... although, in all fairness, my own State of NC is no better on that.

 

[SR40c]

Those rules make perfect sense, since as most people eventually find out the drunks in a bar can stir up a lot of trouble, and so keeping firearms in your car is a much smarter idea.

Last new years eve, there was one particular drunk at the bar where I went to celebrate who was causing a lot of trouble for everyone. I had brought a snack tray that night consisting of salami cheese and crackers, and after he partook of some, rather than show his gratitute, he tried to pick a fight with me.

He was so drunk however that he would not last 5 seconds. I just keep my interval with him, and maintained my eye contact, watching his hands at all times, and let him vent. Finally he floundered off outside to have a smoke. In his flip flops it would have been easy to crush his toes with my motorcycle boots. And since I can quickly draw and snap open my fighting knife, it would have been easy to blind both his eyes. So I was not suffering from any inferiority next to him, and it would have been like shooting a fawn, so I left him alone and let him talk.

Add guns to that scenario and you could easily end up with a gunfight in a bar with lots of bystanders getting shot as well.

Case in point.

That's funny. It's perfectly legal to carry in bars here Iowa and it hasn't happened so far. So much for the simple point from the simpleton.

If you drink and carry, you are stupid. However, there is nothing wrong with being there.

 

[eagleks]

We don't have the problem. Unless the Business posts with the approved AG sign, you are legal to carry in any bar, restaurant , liquor store, etc. So, it's a non-question here. It's only illegal to carry under the influence... no matter where you are, which makes more sense.