2beararms
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I picked up a new Ruger LCP with the Crimson Trace laser yesterday and took it for its first range session today. It is a "post" recall problem serial 371 model (serial 370 models only were in the recall) with the new hammer mechanism so hopefully that is all in the past.
I've had a P-3AT and when it was new the biggest problem was the break-in misfeeds. Like every third shot would jam regardless of FMJ or hollowpoint.
The LCP is virually identical to the Version 1 P-3AT as it uses the extractor with the little pin rather than the big extractor springy thing screwed to the slide body. My 3AT is a V1 and I like that layout.
Personally, I think the Ruger seems just a bit more "solid" overall than the Kel-Tec though, I've heard that Kel-Tec makes the slide and that would not surprise me at all as they seem pretty much identical.
At the range, however the LCP functioned flawlessly right out of the box. I put about 90 rounds of FMJ through it this morning without even a hiccup. Due to the fact that there is a severe ammo shortage at the moment and I only have about 20 hollowpoints on hand, I only shot a few which functioned fine. I did cycle a few mags through by hand and have had no feed problems. I will shoot more once ammo is available again just to be sure, but for now, I want them for carry rounds, at least I am sure the first one will go bang.
The laser was interesting. I had a bit of a problem with where the activation button fell on my hand, sort of right in the groove of my fingers rather than on the "pad". This required a pretty tight squeeze to turn the laser on and a really tight grip to keep it on. This created more shaking that I would have normally,not that I am a steady shot to begin with. Out of the box the laser was sited about 4-5 inches left at about 25 feet so I made a tiny little adjustment and threw it off about a foot and a half to the right. When they say a little goes a long way, they really mean it. Once I got it back to near center I was able to really, really, really carefully dial it into what I hope is near zeroed. Honesty I am not that calm a shot with this small a gun and by then I was tired anyway. I really need put it into a vice type aimer to hold it steady and get it right down the middle but I was able to get relative on target hits and will look at that again in the future. Maybe using a bore site laser and matching the CTG would be good.
By the time I was done my finger was sore where the activation button was from trying to hold it on. I was starting to thing "this ain't gonna work". I thought maybe extending the button by maybe gluing a pad on it might help. Then genius struck?
I had an old Houge Jr grip that I had never used in a box. I stretched it onto the LCP handle and out and over the laser activation button. This had three major effects. First, it makes the grip more comfortable and secure overall. Second it adds a bit of a finger groove below the activation button just above the grip bottom. Third. it spreads the required pressure to activate the laser across the button and makes it lighter so now just about any touch and poof the laser is on. It stays off when there is no pressure however, but as soon as you hold the gun in your hand the laser comes on with just a natural grip and no real squeeze, in fact you have to pull your fingers away from the grip to keep it off (sort of like keeping the trigger finger outside the guard). I find this seems like a lot better control.
I don't have the mag bottom finger extention yet (on order) but I think that I can place the Houge grip so its finger groove will be immediately below the laser button then there will be a finger wide indent followed by the mag finger exention. If that works, it will be like having a real "grooved" grip with two finger grips and instant laser activation.
That seems like a real nice combo to me.
I've ordered up a Pocketholsters.com Guru convertable leather holster (I carry in the right front pocket with the wallet backer facing outward so it does not print at all) that will take the gun with the laser. I was also surprised that one of my cheapy belt slide holsters for my Kahr PM-9 holds the combo LCP with laser just fine, as does my Bianchi X-15 shoulder holster. Of course all the sort of generic "small auto" holsters such as the deSantis and Uncle Mikes also work fine with the laser in place so it is not a tough combination to holster.
As I am in shorts and shirt most of the time, pocket carry is my preferred method and I have used a Guru convertible forever and love them, so I am looking forward to the new one sized for the laser making it here.
Anyway, after five years of strong service my 3AT is off being repaired and will be delegated to a backup position upon its return due to some other wear issues (unless of course, Kel-Tec choosed to replace it with new, then that will be a different issue). So I am hoping I like the LCP in the long run as much as I like the 3AT. It is a shame they did not make the mags interchangeable as it certainly would have been simple.
I've had a P-3AT and when it was new the biggest problem was the break-in misfeeds. Like every third shot would jam regardless of FMJ or hollowpoint.
The LCP is virually identical to the Version 1 P-3AT as it uses the extractor with the little pin rather than the big extractor springy thing screwed to the slide body. My 3AT is a V1 and I like that layout.
Personally, I think the Ruger seems just a bit more "solid" overall than the Kel-Tec though, I've heard that Kel-Tec makes the slide and that would not surprise me at all as they seem pretty much identical.
At the range, however the LCP functioned flawlessly right out of the box. I put about 90 rounds of FMJ through it this morning without even a hiccup. Due to the fact that there is a severe ammo shortage at the moment and I only have about 20 hollowpoints on hand, I only shot a few which functioned fine. I did cycle a few mags through by hand and have had no feed problems. I will shoot more once ammo is available again just to be sure, but for now, I want them for carry rounds, at least I am sure the first one will go bang.
The laser was interesting. I had a bit of a problem with where the activation button fell on my hand, sort of right in the groove of my fingers rather than on the "pad". This required a pretty tight squeeze to turn the laser on and a really tight grip to keep it on. This created more shaking that I would have normally,not that I am a steady shot to begin with. Out of the box the laser was sited about 4-5 inches left at about 25 feet so I made a tiny little adjustment and threw it off about a foot and a half to the right. When they say a little goes a long way, they really mean it. Once I got it back to near center I was able to really, really, really carefully dial it into what I hope is near zeroed. Honesty I am not that calm a shot with this small a gun and by then I was tired anyway. I really need put it into a vice type aimer to hold it steady and get it right down the middle but I was able to get relative on target hits and will look at that again in the future. Maybe using a bore site laser and matching the CTG would be good.
By the time I was done my finger was sore where the activation button was from trying to hold it on. I was starting to thing "this ain't gonna work". I thought maybe extending the button by maybe gluing a pad on it might help. Then genius struck?
I had an old Houge Jr grip that I had never used in a box. I stretched it onto the LCP handle and out and over the laser activation button. This had three major effects. First, it makes the grip more comfortable and secure overall. Second it adds a bit of a finger groove below the activation button just above the grip bottom. Third. it spreads the required pressure to activate the laser across the button and makes it lighter so now just about any touch and poof the laser is on. It stays off when there is no pressure however, but as soon as you hold the gun in your hand the laser comes on with just a natural grip and no real squeeze, in fact you have to pull your fingers away from the grip to keep it off (sort of like keeping the trigger finger outside the guard). I find this seems like a lot better control.
I don't have the mag bottom finger extention yet (on order) but I think that I can place the Houge grip so its finger groove will be immediately below the laser button then there will be a finger wide indent followed by the mag finger exention. If that works, it will be like having a real "grooved" grip with two finger grips and instant laser activation.
That seems like a real nice combo to me.
I've ordered up a Pocketholsters.com Guru convertable leather holster (I carry in the right front pocket with the wallet backer facing outward so it does not print at all) that will take the gun with the laser. I was also surprised that one of my cheapy belt slide holsters for my Kahr PM-9 holds the combo LCP with laser just fine, as does my Bianchi X-15 shoulder holster. Of course all the sort of generic "small auto" holsters such as the deSantis and Uncle Mikes also work fine with the laser in place so it is not a tough combination to holster.
As I am in shorts and shirt most of the time, pocket carry is my preferred method and I have used a Guru convertible forever and love them, so I am looking forward to the new one sized for the laser making it here.
Anyway, after five years of strong service my 3AT is off being repaired and will be delegated to a backup position upon its return due to some other wear issues (unless of course, Kel-Tec choosed to replace it with new, then that will be a different issue). So I am hoping I like the LCP in the long run as much as I like the 3AT. It is a shame they did not make the mags interchangeable as it certainly would have been simple.
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