Gentlemen, Just renewed my CCW with Mecklenburg County Sheriff's office; was asked during the call to set the appointment, 'was I an honorably discharged veteran?' - upon answering in the affirmative, was instructed to bring a copy of my DD214 to renew my card. I thought veterans would receive a discount...but not! If you answered "yes" - but didn't have a copy of your DD214, you could not renew. If you were NOT a veteran, you were not required to provide anything but your proof of identification. Net effect....it's making it harder for vets to get a ccw - or at least it's going to take longer...and now, the standard is NOT the SAME for everyone. An extra layer of proof is required of veterans. I was told this was a new "OBAMA" law.
New Federal Law discriminates against Veterans for CCWW
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asbestostongue
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I wonder what their rational is for the discrimination.
Treo
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The rationale is that a dishonorable discharge makes you a prohibited person and thus ineligible to hold a CHP. Clearly, if you are not a vet the question of character of your discharge doesn’t exist.
I have several copies of my DD214 as well as my DA55A (National Guard version of a 214). I can’t imagine someone not keeping at least a copy on file.
No discrimination here
I have several copies of my DD214 as well as my DA55A (National Guard version of a 214). I can’t imagine someone not keeping at least a copy on file.
No discrimination here
Warbirds
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Treo, are you saying that this info would not be on record that would be checked when a background check is run? If it is I would call it unnecessary to make a veteran jump through an unneeded hoop.
Treo
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Don't know if it's on file anywhere else but the DOD or not I do know that it was made very clear to me that once you ETS your DD214 becomes one of the most important documents you own. I took care of mine if you didn't that isn't my problem.
Again, no discrimination
You were lied to. It has always been a Federal prohibition (since 1968) against possessing firearms if a person has a dishonorable discharge, but there is no Federal law requiring that be checked prior to issuance of a concealed carry permit. Concealed carry permits are still a 100% state issue and the Federal government has nothing, yet, to do with regulating their issuance.
Just like "medical" marijuana. A state can give you a permit for what is illegal at the Federal level. That doesn't change the fact it is still illegal at the Federal level, you just have a piece of paper saying that the state won't prosecute you for it. It's the same way with a concealed carry permit - the state could give the permit to anyone they wanted to, with or without a background check - that would not change the fact if you were prohibited at the Federal level or not.
XD357grandpa
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Here in Idaho, that DD214 bought you a bypass of any further instruction. Benefit rather than discrimination.
Very interesting discussions ensued. All good points, however, being a VE vet, I've never taken advantage of anything service related...nor did I ever have a job...always self employed, so I never needed my DD214. Last year, as I considered registering with the VA, I requested and received my DD214 copies. Point is, I've carried concealed for well over 40 years (civilian LE) but moved to NC, and applied for the CCW - this is my 3rd 5-yr. renewal...and the first time the separation paper was requested. Just wondered. Thanks all!
New sheriff imposing his own rules, maybe?
dcselby1
Denny
All military personnel being discharged are told of the importance of their discharge papers (DD214) and that they would need them for the rest of their lives (and after they die, for some benefits). OR, they can wait 4-8 weeks to obtain a copy from the National Personnel Records Center, if they like.
rclinton46
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In North Carolina, when I applied I wasn't asked for my DD-214 but I am retired, so it was understood that I have an Honorable discharge. I do not think the Sheriff is making it more difficult for veterans or making up additional rules, simply they do not have access to that information. Much like requirement for active duty military must submit an additional form from their medical officer. providing a DD-214 simply proves that you were discharged from military service, honorably, just like showing your drivers license to prove residency. I can understand the frustration after many renewals.
hurley40
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new Federal Law
Great question on the Honorably/Dis~honorably Laws. As A Firearms Dealer...it does seem like they are trying to not let Veterans hold a CCW or even Purchase a new Firearm. There are new Laws every week on who can and cant purchase or Carry firearms? GOA posts a lot of the new Laws, i also get emails from ATF... never ending
Great question on the Honorably/Dis~honorably Laws. As A Firearms Dealer...it does seem like they are trying to not let Veterans hold a CCW or even Purchase a new Firearm. There are new Laws every week on who can and cant purchase or Carry firearms? GOA posts a lot of the new Laws, i also get emails from ATF... never ending
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