never forget what happened so easily on us soil

Well, of course folks don't need to be armed when there is looting , raping, and other various crimes that the lowlife scumbags like to partake in when a chaotic situation has occurred. Why would anyone need to protect themselves.....(sarcasm)!
 
In a two minute video the police and military admitted violating at least two amendments (2nd & 3rd). These are people sworn to uphold the U.S. Constitution. A soldier upset because he might have to kill another citizen. Why? Why is he even considering an unlawful order? Knocking on doors with guns pointed? Is a burglar going to answer the door? Breaking in without a warrant? How do any of these people make this right in their mind?

Another is uncomfortable with staying in a building without permission. They should all be court marshaled and their officers should spend a few years in Levenworth. Not only did they break the law but they violated the 3rd amendment. How do they make it right that they kick people out of their own homes and into the street and then turn around and find a nice comfortable space for themselves? This was a stain on the honor of our country.
 
There are many people, myself included, that were inclined to think that some military personnel would refuse to take action against the American civilian population. Evidently, this isn't the case.

If those soldiers "didn't feel comfortable" about it, why did they do it?
 
To these troops and police: You come into my house without a legal reason that is presented to me, I will kill you and I will probably end up going to heaven but you will be going to hell before me.
 
what was their reasoning to disarm the people in thier own homes and leave them defenseless? was marshall law declared? just goes to show how easily the government can do what ever they damn well choose. all i can say is don't come to upper east tennessee and try that. that is no bs, i know that would create situations where all hell would break loose. we don't like people from the outside coming here and telling us what we can and cannot do. not being unpatriotic, just the opposite. just a basic distrust of ANY government. i am sure we are not alone in this and that other parts of the country feel the same. those would be mostly country people that are used to relying on thier own devices everyday to make a living and survive.
 
Soldiers are conditioned to obey orders without thinking. In combat that is what will keep more of them alive, but on U.S. streets it leads to civil rights violations. That is one BIG reason why we don't want them enforcing civil laws. They are not trained for it.
 
Soldiers are conditioned to obey orders without thinking. In combat that is what will keep more of them alive, but on U.S. streets it leads to civil rights violations. That is one BIG reason why we don't want them enforcing civil laws. They are not trained for it.

Two words-----Kent State
 
what was their reasoning to disarm the people in thier own homes and leave them defenseless? was marshall law declared? just goes to show how easily the government can do what ever they damn well choose. all i can say is don't come to upper east tennessee and try that. that is no bs, i know that would create situations where all hell would break loose. we don't like people from the outside coming here and telling us what we can and cannot do. not being unpatriotic, just the opposite. just a basic distrust of ANY government. i am sure we are not alone in this and that other parts of the country feel the same. those would be mostly country people that are used to relying on thier own devices everyday to make a living and survive.
Martial Law was declared in our part of Dade County 20 years ago after Andrew. But we did not have to give up our guns. One of the reasons given for the lack of active police presence in our area was that they knew every home was armed and could protect themselves. Since Katrina, Florida added the rule of law to the no taking of guns from lawful owners after a natural disaster. 2006 HB-285 took care of that.
AFFRAYS; RIOTS; ROUTS; UNLAWFUL ASSEMBLIES

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870.044 Automatic emergency measures.—Whenever the public official declares that a state of emergency exists, pursuant to s. 870.043, the following acts shall be prohibited during the period of said emergency throughout the jurisdiction:
(1) The sale of, or offer to sell, with or without consideration, any ammunition or gun or other firearm of any size or description.
(2) The intentional display, after the emergency is declared, by or in any store or shop of any ammunition or gun or other firearm of any size or description.
(3) The intentional possession in a public place of a firearm by any person, except a duly authorized law enforcement official or person in military service acting in the official performance of her or his duty.

Nothing contained in this chapter shall be construed to authorize the seizure, taking, or confiscation of firearms that are lawfully possessed, unless a person is engaged in a criminal act.
History.—ss. 4, 5, ch. 70-990; s. 1401, ch. 97-102; s. 2, ch. 2006-100.
 
I've never seen this before, sad day when American troups start shooting Americans.

And I am convinced they will do it. Does anyone think that if orders are given to police and the Nat'l Guard to shoot other American's because of whatever propaganda reason that is given that they won't obey those orders? We see the situation in Syria and most of us probably think that it's troops completely loyal to Assad - well, think again... there are some that are blindly loyal but many are following orders and will be able to hide behind that mantle if ever there is a day of reckoning. The absolute same will occur here as was seen in the video. I see very little impediment to our government enforcing martial law and all of us being completely disarmed.
"From my cold dead hands"... nice slogan until you're looking down the barrel of an M-4 and your wife and kids are threatened as well!
 
I was a little hasty in my previous post. The second and third apply but so do the fourth amendment, "secure in their persons, houses..... against unreasonable searches and seizures....." and the fifth amendment "....nor deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process...."

I am proud of my service. What shame do these men carry by breaking into the homes of the people they are sworn to defend and stealing guns and other items. I can't imagine what would compel me to follow an order to violate the constitution.
 

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