Need advice on a long-range rifle.

gundaddypv

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I know a lot about pistols, but I don't really know a lot about rifles.

I'm looking for one I can totally make tacticool. Basically, I'm looking for an all-in-one caliber/rifle for the following:

Deer hunting.
Zombie apocalypse survival.
China invasion survival.
600yd+ headshots
Rust-resistant... or at least a way to make it rust resistant.
Scope-able... though I think they all are... unless it's something like a Mosin Nagant... and even then there are kits... but although I'm accomplished at a lot of things, I'm not sure I could work a kit.
CHEAP! Or at least inexpensive.

Come to think of it... a Mosin Nagant. There are some pretty sweet aftermarket stocks for it... and I think somewhere there's a kit for affixing a scope and changing the bolt. I might even be able to buy a new bolt.

I'm a noob. Guide me, oh wise ones.
 

It really comes down to how much money you want to spend, and the type of rifle you want. If you want an AR 15 style rifle you could go with a 6.8spc, or an AR 10 - 308 cal,
or a Springfield M1A loaded 308, or a Ruger M77 308 scout rifle bolt action. There are just to many options to choose from. Do some research and decide what caliber rifle you want, then start searching for rifles in that caliber until you find what you want. But, be prepared to spend close to two thousand dollars for the rifle, and a thousand dollars or more for a top quality scope.
 
"600-yard headshots" and "cheap" are incongruous.

The most accurate setup I've had was a Rem 700 with a Shilen barrel and Jewell trigger. Floated and bedded with a Loopy MKIV.

My Brother gave me that rifle, so I don't know how much he had in it-probably around $3500-but that was 7 or 8 years ago.

If I were in your apparent situation, I'd get a TC Venture in .308 and spend as much money as I could on glass and Black Hills ammo.
 
I guess you will be one of those range ninjas with a bipod on their AR.

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By the way, there is no such thing as an all-in-one rifle. Focus on one specific use case and a budget, and go from there. If you want a fighting rifle, go with an AR 15 or AK 47 in their standard calibers. As for a .308 option, take a look at the DPMS G2 RECON. Otherwise, go bolt action and select a caliber based on your needs (lethality at a given range, trajectory, availability, costs, etc.).
 
Lol - good info, and funny responses. Thanks all. I guess I'll start with an AK. Any thoughts on the Yugo? Is one AK pretty much like any other AK?
 
A bolt action rifle will be the most accurate at 600 yards, I'd try a howa heavy barreled action with a houge rubber over molded stock and a good 3x9 scope, 308 or 30-06 will be a good caliber and you should be able to piece it together for under 1000 dollars. Reloading will help with you to obtain the best groups with your rifle. I put one together in 270 winchester for about 800.00. Good Luck.
 
Lol - good info, and funny responses. Thanks all. I guess I'll start with an AK. Any thoughts on the Yugo? Is one AK pretty much like any other AK?

Yugos are good AKs but, I prefer the Romanian or Polish variants. Just understand what you're going to get from an AK in regards to accuracy and there probably won't be any disappointment. I think of and use my AKs as sub-200m weapons and in doing so, the 4"-average 100m groups are perfectly satisfactory. I shoot almost exclusively the steel-cased cheap stuff and that is a major factor for the accuracy obtained. With good ammo and a properly built AK, 2-3" groups at 100m are entirely possible. If I lived in a different area I may consider an MBR as primary, such as my Garand or Enfield, for the increased power and range. For longer range work, I've got a custom built bolt-gun chambered in 7x57 that would have cost around $2500 if I purchased it the normal way.
 
A bolt action rifle will be the most accurate at 600 yards, I'd try a howa heavy barreled action with a houge rubber over molded stock and a good 3x9 scope, 308 or 30-06 will be a good caliber and you should be able to piece it together for under 1000 dollars. Reloading will help with you to obtain the best groups with your rifle. I put one together in 270 winchester for about 800.00. Good Luck.

^^^^^^^^This in a varmint configuration or a Weatherby Varmint .308 ( made by Howa), they shoot under 1MOA out of the box and cost between 400 used to 800 new.. Add a Mueller Scope in MILDOT 200. rings and mount for another 125-150. All in you can do it for 800-1200. Gun will shoot out to 1000 yards.
http://muelleroptics.com/mt451440
 
For your intended purpose, I would not recommend the Mosin Nagant, or any other weapon in a caliber not readily available here. That eliminates the 7.62x54R and the 7.62x39. .30-06 and 5.56mm would be my choice. Though 5.56mm is getting a little weak when it is out at 600 meters.
 
For your intended purpose, I would not recommend the Mosin Nagant, or any other weapon in a caliber not readily available here. That eliminates the 7.62x54R and the 7.62x39. .30-06 and 5.56mm would be my choice. Though 5.56mm is getting a little weak when it is out at 600 meters.

Well, yes and no to the ammo availability. There is a lot of 7.62x54R and 7.62x39 out there but, I think you're referring more to the domestic production of calibers. Yes? However, there is of course very little (if any) downside to choosing .30-06 for long range work and naturally it is available nearly everywhere. While I own many domestically made calibers such as 5.56x45, my primary weapon of choice for, err... zombies... is an AK chambered in 7.62x39. I second your statements about 5.56x45 for long range work, it isn't the best choice beyond 500m. This issue is compounded further if one is expecting to require reaching through stuff to get the BG.
 
I agree that the 5.56 bullet doen't have the required mass to bull it's way through obstacles like a 7.62 bullet does. The usual platform for 7.63x39 is shirt barreled, carbine length, but what is now categorized as an assault rifle. This usually limits accurate fire past 600 meters. Though to be frank, unless you are engaging tanks in the steppes of Russia or the deserts of North Africa, or similar environs, any engagement past 600 meters become problematic. Most viable engagements with iron sights are within 300 meters.

But with any situation you choose the tool that will do the best in most situations. Or make do with what you have at hand.
 
I guess you will be one of those range ninjas with a bipod on their AR.

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By the way, there is no such thing as an all-in-one rifle. Focus on one specific use case and a budget, and go from there. If you want a fighting rifle, go with an AR 15 or AK 47 in their standard calibers. As for a .308 option, take a look at the DPMS G2 RECON. Otherwise, go bolt action and select a caliber based on your needs (lethality at a given range, trajectory, availability, costs, etc.).
God...what a bowel movement.
 
mosin nagant 7.62 54 is a decent round for 25 cents,it will drop 60 inches over 500 yards, not bad.

take a look at Winchester ballistics for other calibers, 222, 22-250, 223, 243 are superior at 500 yards.
 

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