Nation wide concealed carry.

[whiteeagle-wpm]

I believe that all the states should get together to build uniform concealed carry laws for all 50 states. This would make it easier for law biding citizens to conform to inter state travel without having to be a lawyer to figure out what is right.

 

[Nightmare45]

Already have two laws, 2nd Amendment and the D I C K Act of 1902.

 

[TrapperBob]

Well, yes, it would be good to be able to carry nationwide. But the various states' regulations are SO far apart I can't see that happening anytime in my lifetime. In some states you need to show that you have been physically threatened and fear for your life, and your likelihood of actually getting a permit is extremely small. On the other hand some states allow any resident who may legally own a firearm to carry without a permit. I don't see any middle ground that both sides would be willing to accept. My state, North Carolina, accepts any CCW permit issued by any other state. That would be a way to go, so each state sets its own rules for getting a permit but all states accept each other's permits. I'm not holding my breath for that either.

 

[timtheref]

At this point, I would settle for national reciprocity. And then push for more after that. But one thing at a time.

 

[Firefighterchen]

At this point I'd push to repel all firearms laws.

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[NavyLCDR]

I believe that all the states should get together to build uniform concealed carry laws for all 50 states. This would make it easier for law biding citizens to conform to inter state travel without having to be a lawyer to figure out what is right.

The problem is, right now in Washington, I pay my $52.50 (or something like that, it has been a while), fingerprints, quick background check and it's issued. If we start talking about the states "compromising", some states will want to add a training requirement, other states will want to add letters of reference, some states will want a court judge to sign off on it, some states will want a compelling reason for the permit. Meanwhile, the people from Vermont will be asking, "Permit? Permit for what? Are you serious?!?"

NO THANK YOU.

 

[Seeya]

Why do we even need to ask our employees (elected servants) permission to do anything that does not violate anothers rights or has nothing to do with commerce?

 

[wolf_fire]

I believe that all the states should get together to build uniform concealed carry laws for all 50 states. This would make it easier for law biding citizens to conform to inter state travel without having to be a lawyer to figure out what is right.

That sounds pleasant to the ears until one takes a look at the nuts and bolts. The states that require any type of permit, training requirement, background check, etc., just to be able to exercise a Constitutional right are the actual problems. Asking the ones that created the infringement problems in the first place to make the infringements less of an infringement is an exercise in futility.

What really needs to happen is have the American people know and understand the Constitution and start demanding that their representatives actually support it and deny anything that is un-Constitutional.

 

[Javy]

I agree with nightmare45.

 

[sdprof]

If we accept that permits to carry won't go away, the only acceptable national criteria MUST be to the lowest common denominator. Like my state: small form, no training, no prints, no photo, $10 bill, and away you go. Anything more intrusive or restrictive is not acceptable.

In other words, not gonna happen.

 

[Pir8fan]

I believe that all the states should get together to build uniform concealed carry laws for all 50 states. This would make it easier for law biding citizens to conform to inter state travel without having to be a lawyer to figure out what is right.

I wouldn't support this at all. I happen to live in a very pro gun state and we would lose something if we had to negotiate with the likes of Kalifornia, Illinois, NY, Connecticut and a few other socialist republics.

 

[Pir8fan]

The problem is, right now in Washington, I pay my $52.50 (or something like that, it has been a while), fingerprints, quick background check and it's issued. If we start talking about the states "compromising", some states will want to add a training requirement, other states will want to add letters of reference, some states will want a court judge to sign off on it, some states will want a compelling reason for the permit. Meanwhile, the people from Vermont will be asking, "Permit? Permit for what? Are you serious?!?"

NO THANK YOU.

I agree completely. I'm in NC. We would suffer as well.

 

[timtheref]

Which is why I suggested national reciprocity over a national permit. States can set their own standards on obtaining a drivers license, and they are accepted in all 50 states as long as you follow local laws.

 

[missoak]

I agree completely. I'm in NC. We would suffer as well.

Ditto, be careful what you ask for. You may get it.
Mi. accepts all carry permits. Mi. has reciprocity with most states. I'm satisfied with that.
If I can't carry in NY or whatever, that's their loss. I just won't go there.

 

[wolf_fire]

Ditto, be careful what you ask for. You may get it.
Mi. accepts all carry permits. Mi. has reciprocity with most states. I'm satisfied with that.
If I can't carry in NY or whatever, that's their loss. I just won't go there.

Just like Remington won't be manufacturing in Ilion, NY anymore either, or Kahr... and Ruger is going away from Ct. Let those states shrivel economically. Let those residents leave. Let the peoples' voices be heard.

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[freethink]

There is an interesting new study out which you may have already seen. It's very timely because here we are with all the California proposals about to get signed or vetoed by the Governor, here in a State where concealed carry is very irregular (it's shall issue in some areas, may issue in others, each county has its own standards, very fragmented, and there's no real reciprocity -- so your carry permit in one county only works in that county, it doesn't work across California). This is but one of the messed up things about California. But getting back to the point:
There has been this study, which I recently wrote the Governor about in a message to him that I titled "Gun Studies" in which I mentioned a few different gun studies. Specifically, this study which I am thinking of just appeared in the Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy, titled 'Would Banning Firearms Reduce Murder and Suicide?' And of course, upon review, it was found that it wouldn't at all. You can link to it here:
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But the study discovered something else, too:
"As to one specific control, the ban on carrying concealed weapons for protection, “violent‐crime rates were highest in states [that flatly ban carrying concealed weapons], next highest in those that allowed local authorities discretion [to deny] permits, and lowest in states with nondiscretionary” concealed weapons laws under which police are legally required to license every qualified applicant."
I used this study to suggest to the Governor that he recommend or issue a Governor's executive order that Sheriffs and Police Chiefs across California adopt Shall-Issue as a standard so that people would be able to carry concealed anywhere in the State.
(However, I am thinking of moving to Nevada, and I'm not holding my breath.)

 

[bobqdevon]

I believe that all the states should get together to build uniform concealed carry laws for all 50 states. This would make it easier for law biding citizens to conform to inter state travel without having to be a lawyer to figure out what is right.

Pahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha like that will ever happen, with states like Maryland, New York, New Jersey, California... :banghead:

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[Renfield]

It would make a lot of sense, but realistically it's just not gonna happen. Timtheref is correct, national reciprocity would be a positive first step in the right direction

 

[wolf_fire]

It would make a lot of sense, but realistically it's just not gonna happen. Timtheref is correct, national reciprocity would be a positive first step in the right direction

Don't hand your rights over to the Federal government for just a bit of convenience. It would not be a step in the right direction to have a Federally enforced reciprocity. If the states could all agree on it, that's one thing... but I can't see a National reciprocity happening without the Federal government mandating it, and at that point, they'll make all the rules on how we are to carry. That would be the end of the 2nd Amendment.

 

[Bikenut]

To put this idea of National Concealed Carry Reciprocity into perspective please consider this:

Asking the Federal government for National Concealed Carry Reciprocity is the same as asking...

"Mr. Obama... can I have your permission to carry a gun?"

What do you think the answer will be?