My non-carry wife's LEO Encounter with my CC

Debray

Debray

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My wife borrowed my car and went shopping.
We live in Ohio but West Virginia is just across the river.
A WVa. city police car was in front of her and he pulled into a parking lot just at the end of town. My wife and another car behind her started to speed up as they were about to leave the 35 mph town and were within view of a 55 mph sign.
The city police came out with lights flashing and pulled my wife over, as soon as he walked up to the car he asked if she had a CC, she said my husband does but he usually takes it out when I have the care.
Well this time I didn't, I was at fault it was in a locked glove compartment with the mag in and without a round chambered.
He asked her to give him the CC, the registration, and her license. When she opened the glove compartment and saw the CC she handed it to him with her license. She was shook up and couldn't find the registration which I keep in the center console so if she has the car she doesn't have to open the glove compartment.
He took her license and my CC back to his car when he returned he handed her my CC and her license with just a warning ticket.
All in all it went well, since he had an out of State vehicle with a loaded weapon without a CC License Holder.
If she would have went to jail, she would have killed me and I couldn't blame her.

Just something to think about guys if you can't talk your wife into getting a CC.
 
Glad this went well, it could of turned ugly real quick. As a current LEO honesty is a big part of how I deal with different situations, the fact that your wife did not lie or hide anything probably put the officer at ease (at least for me it would of) criminals are not going to volunteer information and would lie about the weapon.

I'm glad it turned out well, it could of turned bad real quick. Thanks for sharing !
 
Registration suggestion

I live in Florida so I am not aware of your laws. We don't need our CWP if the firearm is stored in the car and not on our person. On the registration issue, I always make copies of it so the wife and I both have them for our cars. We NEVER leave the registration and insurance in the car to avoid opening up a glovebox with a firearm inside in front of a LEO. Also, potential thieves would not have access to the docs in case of being pulled over. We also keep spare keys for each other in case of accidental loss or lock out.
 
It is refreshing to hear a positive encounter with a LEO. It seems all we read about are the negative encounters.
 
In my state, a weapon in the car that is not on an individual is considered to belong to everyone in the car. I have not read any opinions yet of how such a weapon would considered if one of the individuals had a CHP. Also, it is illegal to leave a weapon unattended overnight in a vehicle in this state. To avoid problems (and the theft of my weapon if my car gets stolen), I always keep my weapon on my person when others are in the car, and I never leave one in the car unless I have to in order to enter one of the forbidden zones (schools, govt buildings). In any case, I am glad to read about a good cop for once.
 
I know all states gun laws are different but I know in Michigan since we have an open carry law that no carry zones for cpl holders and open carry in no carry zones schools, banks, etc...
 
Since I work for a University, I don't have any choice but to keep it locked in the car most of the time.
 
This would be a non-issue in Florida as well. You do not need a CWP to keep a weapon in your vehicle.
However, there are laws about keeping the firearm locked up when not attended.

BTW... the best place to keep your registration and insurance card is paper-clipped to your visor.
 
Dale64 said:
This would be a non-issue in Florida as well. You do not need a CWP to keep a weapon in your vehicle.
However, there are laws about keeping the firearm locked up when not attended.

BTW... the best place to keep your registration and insurance card is paper-clipped to your visor.
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In Ohio you have to have the weapon and the ammunition locked in two separate locations.

I'm not sure what West Virgina's law requires.

I like the visor location for registration and proof of insurance.
 
Debray said:
In Ohio you have to have the weapon and the ammunition locked in two separate locations.
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Respectfully, you are mistaken:

Lawriter - ORC - 2923.16 Improperly handling firearms in a motor vehicle.

(5) “Unloaded” means any of the following:

(a) No ammunition is in the firearm in question, and no ammunition is loaded into a magazine or speed loader that may be used with the firearm in question and that is located anywhere within the vehicle in question, without regard to where ammunition otherwise is located within the vehicle in question. For the purposes of division (K)(5)(a) of this section, ammunition held in stripper-clips or in en-bloc clips is not considered ammunition that is loaded into a magazine or speed loader.
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The statutory requirement is that there be no ammo in the firearm, and no ammo loaded in magazines or speed loaders. There is no requirement to separate the ammo from the firearm, magazine or speed loaders, however.

Just curious, which one of the "big three" told you the ammunition had to be in a separate locked container: cop, gun store employee or CCW instructor?
 
WTF? My firearm never leaves my side. I would never leave a gun in my truck.What if some one stole it? Or,what if my wife took it to the store and got pulled over??? ;0/
 
Keep your ins and reg on you, not in the car. Wallet or purse work just fine. Thief would get your credentials while driving your car. This is like carrying your SS card everywhere you go...why?
 
Just curious, which one of the "big three" told you the ammunition had to be in a separate locked container: cop, gun store employee or CCW instructor?[/QUOTE]

Actually none of the above.

I am wrong on what I said, it wasn't in locked separate locations.

I was a Hunter Safety Instructor, and I always told students to keep their ammo out of reach of the operator, and suggested if in a car keep ammo it in the trunk, if in a pickup lock it in the glove compartment. My mistake.
 
routereyes said:
Keep your ins and reg on you, not in the car. Wallet or purse work just fine. Thief would get your credentials while driving your car. This is like carrying your SS card everywhere you go...why?
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Sounds Good but kind of hard to do when two people drive the same vehicle.

They may have your registration and insurance card, but it doesn't do them much good without your drivers licence.

I don't know about everybody else, but I already have to carry a Drivers Licence, SS Card, CC Licence from Ohio, CC Licence from Pa., a Credit Card, Hunting Licence, Fishing Licence, NRA Card, Hospitalazation Card, Farm Bureau Card, American Legion Card, AMAC Membership Card (I dropped AARP), AAA Membership Card, Krogers Card, Sams Club, and a Employee ID card.

My wallet is already full, I guess it is a good thing I don't have much money.
 
Debray said:
Just curious, which one of the "big three" told you the ammunition had to be in a separate locked container: cop, gun store employee or CCW instructor?Actually none of the above.

I am wrong on what I said, it wasn't in locked separate locations.

I was a Hunter Safety Instructor, and I always told students to keep their ammo out of reach of the operator, and suggested if in a car keep ammo it in the trunk, if in a pickup lock it in the glove compartment. My mistake.
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Ohio's gun laws have changed many times in the last few years... Since you live in OH, you should educate yourself on the laws here BEFORE you give out advice on them....

No, I wasnt trying to be confrontational or mean, sorry if it comes across that way...
 
Debray said:
NavyLCDR said:
Just curious, which one of the "big three" told you the ammunition had to be in a separate locked container: cop, gun store employee or CCW instructor?
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Actually none of the above.

I am wrong on what I said, it wasn't in locked separate locations.

I was a Hunter Safety Instructor, and I always told students to keep their ammo out of reach of the operator, and suggested if in a car keep ammo it in the trunk, if in a pickup lock it in the glove compartment. My mistake.
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No problem. There seems to be an issue with instructors that will mix opinions in with statutory requirements in such a way that the students don't know which is which. My personal opinion, just me, is that the instructor should stick with the statutory requirements only. However, if the they wish to express their opinion state at the beginning, "this next part is just my opinion, take it or leave it" :-). Again, that's just me, I was an instructor for the Navy teaching Sailors how to do nuclear reactor water chemistry and radiation monitoring. Thanks for coming back and confirming the facts for us!
 
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