Multi-state and Moved question

[Mr. Idaho]

Hello,

I've been reading lots, and I'm either blind, or the law doesn't quite address my question. (It could be either...lol) Was hoping someone had some idea on this.

About 30 days ago, I moved from Idaho to Washington state. I have an Idaho resident CCW permit. I also hold a Utah and Florida permit. Washington does recognize both the Utah and Florida permits. Washington does NOT honor the Idaho permit whether resident or non-resident, so that doesn't factor in here.

I've already applied for the Washington CPL -- but nowhere have I been able to determine if I am okay to carry with the Utah or Florida permits in the interim. Any thoughts? I have assumed that because I am now a Washington resident, that I am ONLY okay to carry here with a Washington CPL, and have thus NOT carried to date. But I can't find any reading to clarify and/or confirm this either way.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Tucker's Mom]

Just going by your story, it seems that you cannot carry in your current state unless you have a WA CHL. I just picked that up from your account because at the moment if you think about it, you are permit-less to carry there but not everywhere else your Utah and FLorida gives you permit to carry. In the meantime, while waiting for your CHL, be careful out there.

 

[lfdroberson]

I know your state of residence permit becomes void if you move out of your state of residence. Why would your out of state permits become void? I believe you are ok to carry with those permits. I suggest you call the locality which issues permits in your current state of residence for a definitive answer.

 

[Iam2Taz]

If you live in a small town, I would ask the local authority. He/She may not know, but you are showing yourself to be a honest upstanding citizen.
This will also give you a chance to talk to those in charge should you need them in the future.
If you live in a larger area, I would seek an attorney for the best advice.

Other than that, "I think" you are without a permit at this time.

 

[NavyLCDR]

Why not just read the statute? Seems like the easiest way to solve the question to me.... If you call someone on the phone, all you are going to get is their opinion, which may, or may not match what the statute says:

RCW 9.41.073: Concealed pistol license

RCW 9.41.073
Concealed pistol license — Reciprocity.

(1)(a) A person licensed to carry a pistol in a state the laws of which recognize and give effect in that state to a concealed pistol license issued under the laws of the state of Washington is authorized to carry a concealed pistol in this state if:

(i) The licensing state does not issue concealed pistol licenses to persons under twenty-one years of age; and

(ii) The licensing state requires mandatory fingerprint-based background checks of criminal and mental health history for all persons who apply for a concealed pistol license.

(b) This section applies to a license holder from another state only while the license holder is not a resident of this state. A license holder from another state must carry the handgun in compliance with the laws of this state.

(2) The attorney general shall periodically publish a list of states the laws of which recognize and give effect in that state to a concealed pistol license issued under the laws of the state of Washington and which meet the requirements of subsection (1)(a)(i) and (ii) of this section.

Once you become a resident of WA state, ALL out of state permits are no longer valid in Washington State.

A general definition of resident which matches the Federal definition of residency for firearms transactions is:

RCW 46.20.021: New residents.

RCW 46.20.021
New residents.

(3) For the purposes of obtaining a valid driver's license, a resident is a person who manifests an intent to live or be located in this state on more than a temporary or transient basis. Evidence of residency includes but is not limited to:

(a) Becoming a registered voter in this state; or

(b) Receiving benefits under one of the Washington public assistance programs; or

(c) Declaring residency for the purpose of obtaining a state license or tuition fees at resident rates.

 

[NavyLCDR]

Until you get your Concealed Pistol License, you can open carry a loaded handgun outside a vehicle, but it has to be unloaded inside any vehicle. That's RCW 9.41.050. There are several instances where you can conceal a pistol, without a license, contained in RCW 9.41.060.

 

[Mr. Idaho]

Why not just read the statute? Seems like the easiest way to solve the question to me.... If you call someone on the phone, all you are going to get is their opinion, which may, or may not match what the statute says:

RCW 9.41.073: Concealed pistol license

Navy, thanks for digging that up for me. I really am terrible at finding those kind of things, not for lack of trying. I need to get better at that. I sure do have a clear answer now, and its as I suspected all along. I'll keep my eyes peeled a little better over the next few weeks until the WA CPL shows up.

Many thanks again... your efforts are much appreciated!!

 

[NavyLCDR]

Navy, thanks for digging that up for me. I really am terrible at finding those kind of things, not for lack of trying. I need to get better at that. I sure do have a clear answer now, and its as I suspected all along. I'll keep my eyes peeled a little better over the next few weeks until the WA CPL shows up.

Many thanks again... your efforts are much appreciated!!

Here's a good summary of Washington gun laws:
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