More people claim that it's Zimmerman's voice screaming for help on the 911 tape.

[The_Outlaw]

Sondra Osterman, wife of Zimmerman’s best friend Mark Osterman, told jurors that the screaming voice on the tape was “definitely” that of Zimmerman.
“Yes, definitely, it’s Georgie,” Osterman said. “I hear it, I hear him screaming.”

Wife of Zimmerman's best friend testifies that neighborhood watchman can be heard screaming on 911 call | Fox News

 

[Stengun]

Howdy,

After listening to the tape several times I'm pretty sure that it belongs to Jimmy Hoffa.

Time to start digging.

Paul

 

[Sir Diealotz]

Howdy,

After listening to the tape several times I'm pretty sure that it belongs to Jimmy Hoffa.

Time to start digging.

Paul

He was dug up last month in cement buried in a field outside Detroit.

Wait, that was another false lead LOL

Back on topic:

Prepare for race riots and vandalism...

Fortunately I don't live near any heavily populated areas so I'll kick back with some popcorn and enjoy the show

 

[gejoslin]

He was dug up last month in cement buried in a field outside Detroit.

Wait, that was another false lead LOL

Back on topic:

Prepare for race riots and vandalism...

Fortunately I don't live near any heavily populated areas so I'll kick back with some popcorn and enjoy the show

Stocking up on popcorn and diet soda for show time after GZ is acquitted. But they have talked big before on the boards, it's easy for "them" to say they're gonna do this and that. We'll see how they act, I'm sure the alphabet stations will be showing everything in living color. :wink:

 

[Sir Diealotz]

He was dug up last month in cement buried in a field outside Detroit.

Wait, that was another false lead LOL

Back on topic:

Prepare for race riots and vandalism...

Fortunately I don't live near any heavily populated areas so I'll kick back with some popcorn and enjoy the show

Stocking up on popcorn and diet soda for show time after GZ is acquitted. But they have talked big before on the boards, it's easy for "them" to say they're gonna do this and that. We'll see how they act, I'm sure the alphabet stations will be showing everything in living color. :wink:

May I make another suggestion?

Nutty bars... Frozen...
Yum!

 

[nogods]

Sondra Osterman, wife of Zimmerman’s best friend Mark Osterman, told jurors that the screaming voice on the tape was “definitely” that of Zimmerman.
“Yes, definitely, it’s Georgie,” Osterman said. “I hear it, I hear him screaming.”

Wife of Zimmerman's best friend testifies that neighborhood watchman can be heard screaming on 911 call | Fox News

And Martin's father may have said it wasn't his son - if the jury believes the testimony of the investigating officer.

Go all the way back to the opening statements. Most trial lawyers are convinced that a jury trail is won or lost in the opening statements, and it would take something dramatic during trial to change that.

So far, the state hasn't offered anything dramatic, and the defense is unlikely to give them the opportunity to do so during the defense presentation.

 

[Stengun]

Howdy,

Why would George being screaming for help as he was drawing and firing his gun but stopped yelling as soon as he fired his gun?

Doesn't add up.

We do not have an example of Martin's voice but we have heard George's voice and we have heard Martin's brother's voice and I have a hard time believing the the screams came from George.

At the same time I find it hard to believe that anyone can honestly say "That's _________ ( fill in the blank ) voice.".

Paul

 

[maybejim]

Howdy,

Why would George being screaming for help as he was drawing and firing his gun but stopped yelling as soon as he fired his gun?

Doesn't add up.

We do not have an example of Martin's voice but we have heard George's voice and we have heard Martin's brother's voice and I have a hard time believing the the screams came from George.

At the same time I find it hard to believe that anyone can honestly say "That's _________ ( fill in the blank ) voice.".

Paul

It's clear there was no fight. Martin's injuries were to his fist and the bullet wound, nothing else. Zimmerman had multiple injuries. A witness has testified that Martin was on top of Zimmerman. Zimmerman's story matches the evidence we have. Zimmerman told the same substantial story multiple times with variations only what would be expected (all without contacting a lawyer). There is no evidence that contradicts Zimmerman's story. It seems clear a reasonable man would have been in fear for his life or of severe bodily injury. If he is convicted of anything, I would say it is because 6 women were afraid of the riots that would erupt from finding him innocent.

 

[BluesStringer]

At the same time I find it hard to believe that anyone can honestly say "That's _________ ( fill in the blank ) voice."

The eye and ear witness can, but you just don't want to believe him:

Is that reluctant witness part of whatever conspiracy you fantasize is afoot to get Zimmerman off?

That's what doesn't add up, Pretty Simple Paul.

Blues

 

[wolf_fire]

Who else would be screaming other than the guy who had his head bashed into the concrete and didn't have any fighting wounds on his knuckles? Sure it's Martin screaming for his life as he's bashing Zimmerman's head in.

 

[Sir Diealotz]

Shoobee is gonna get banned again LULZ

 

[gejoslin]

Shoobee is gonna get banned again LULZ

I don't think it's Shoobe. This guy can spell! But could be a diff banned ex-forum poster.

 

[Sir Diealotz]

Shoobee is gonna get banned again LULZ

I don't think it's Shoobe. This guy can spell! But could be a diff banned ex-forum poster.

We should start a winner take all poll.

We need a list of potentials.
Shoobee
Kwimby

Please add your guesstimates

 

[BluesStringer]

We should start a winner take all poll.

We need a list of potentials.
Shoobee
Kwimby

Please add your guesstimates

Hmm....Well, I might be able to find him in my Ignore List, though not all of them have been banned. Some of them just went away after a few days of exchanges like this umm....member in good standing (HA!) has participated in over the last several days. I'll post the Rogues Gallery of nicks on my list though, minus the couple that are just some weird personality conflict between me and them.

BuddhaKat
deepstare
fullyarmedcitizen
jfisch
Koolbota
rdm6680
Robby3006
Scvette
Shoobee

Blues

PS: That last one was just me signing off, but I have been known to ignore myself at times before too.

 

[Sir Diealotz]

LOL!

I remember rdm, been a while.

 

[BC1]

Howdy,

Why would George being screaming for help as he was drawing and firing his gun but stopped yelling as soon as he fired his gun?

Doesn't add up.

We do not have an example of Martin's voice but we have heard George's voice and we have heard Martin's brother's voice and I have a hard time believing the the screams came from George.

At the same time I find it hard to believe that anyone can honestly say "That's _________ ( fill in the blank ) voice.".

Paul

I'll see your bet and raise you this...

Each side claims it's their client screaming. But no one is connecting obvious dots here. Witness number one on the scene testified he saw Martin on top. How many of us believe the guy on bottom is winning the fight while the guy on top, instead of running away, screams. And have any of us ever seen an aggressor straddling and beating the tar out of someone while screaming bloody-murder for help? Makes zero sense. The 911 call has consistent screaming up until the gunshot is heard. What can we deduce from that? First, whoever is screaming is getting beat-up or is panicked with fear for life and limb. There's a gunshot and precisely at that time the witness sees Martin on top. Unless they switched places (doubtful) the first witness' timing tells us who was the aggressor immediately before the gunshot. Set the witness statements against the timing in the 911 call between the screams and the shot. Everything before witness number one appears on the scene is pure speculation... word against word... circumstantial.

 

[gejoslin]

I'll see your bet and raise you this...

Each side claims it's their client screaming. But no one is connecting obvious dots here. Witness number one on the scene testified he saw Martin on top. How many of us believe the guy on bottom is winning the fight while the guy on top, instead of running away, screams. And have any of us ever seen an aggressor straddling and beating the tar out of someone while screaming bloody-murder for help? Makes zero sense. The 911 call has consistent screaming up until the gunshot is heard. What can we deduce from that? First, whoever is screaming is getting beat-up or is panicked with fear for life and limb. There's a gunshot and precisely at that time the witness sees Martin on top. Unless they switched places (doubtful) the first witness' timing tells us who was the aggressor immediately before the gunshot. Set the witness statements against the timing in the 911 call between the screams and the shot. Everything before witness number one appears on the scene is pure speculation... word against word... circumstantial.

That's right. The expert witness said that the shirt had to be 2-4 inches away from his body by the stippling on TM chest. That means he was on top when GZ fired his pistol. 2+2 that simple.