Moms Demand boycotting MI Kroger companies...

[ezkl2230]

The leader of the MI chapter of MD wrote an op ed piece calling for a boycott of Kroger companies. The fact that there have supposedly been 16 firearms related incidents at Kroger locations nationally in the last 2 years would seem to the reasoning person to underscore the need for carry, but that makes too much sense.

Folks, we need to be sure to step up and support these companies that accommodate our right to carry.

Guest column: We need groceries, not guns at Michigan Kroger stores | MLive.com

I briefly posted,

First off, there is the most apparent answer. None of the other activities portrayed in your recent ads in an effort to force Kroger to accede to your will are explicitly protected by the Bill of Rights.

Second, Kroger is a private company. It is fully up to them to determine whether they will allow carry in accordance with applicable laws - a fact that you just cannot accept.


Third, while your organization blithely brushes aside concerns of the carry community as paranoid, I would point out that, in the week that followed your initial effort to force Kroger to prohibit firearms carry, three individuals - two Kroger employees and one customer were attacked and injured without provocation in a Memphis, TN, Kroger, and a firearms carrier was able to fend off an armed attack in an Indianapolis Kroger parking lot.


Objective reality stinks, doesn't it.

 

[sdprof]

# of lawful gun owners in MI - hundreds of thousands, or millions

# of Mad Moms in MI - um, I got fingers left over.

What boycott would hurt Kroger more?

 

[S&W645]

I'm going Kroger shopping tomorrow and I will be armed. MDA can take a hike off a short plank.

 

[NavyLCDR]

Folks, we need to be sure to step up and support these companies that accommodate our right to carry.

That has proven to not be enough. We need to demand, through signing petitions just like MDA does, that companies ignore them and continue to allow lawful carrying of firearms. But we never will.

 

[ezkl2230]

# of lawful gun owners in MI - hundreds of thousands, or millions

# of Mad Moms in MI - um, I got fingers left over.

What boycott would hurt Kroger more?

At last count, there are about 325,000 CPL holders, plus a few more who OC exclusively w/out a CPL, so call it somewhere in the neighborhood of 350K.

 

[Warbirds]

Even liberals are tied of MDAs *****.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...on-gun-sense-americas-hometown-paper-fed-mda/

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[BC1]

People need to work hard to bring public awareness to the board members of the moms.
.
Send it everywhere. Publish it everywhere. Send correspondence to the moms telling them you have decided to withhold donations and support because of their appointment of disturbed people to their board. Then send them this....
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-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-
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Moms board member Erica Quinn is as nuts as a junkyard dog.
.
Here’s the emergency protection order requiring she stay away from her own kids --> OCIS Case Summary for PO-2013-960- LEWIS LEWIS LEWIS LEWIS, WILLIAM CHRISTOPHER v. QUINN, ERIKA (Tulsa County District Court)
.
Here’s her blog --> HowIMetMyTherapist: July 2014 where she espouses hatred and violence…
.

“My anxiety is thru the roof, & the night terrors are bad. I'm sleeping a lot due to waking up so frequently. I need to blow my top, & soon.”​

.

“The Rage is still there, bubbling, boiling, waiting to blow the top in nuclear fashion.”​

.

“Dear Mason, F--- you. My hatred for you burns like acid on my soul. F--- you, f--- you, f--- YOU!!! But knowing that maybe, somewhere out there, you relive battle nightmares from one war or another, makes me giggly. I hate you & hope you suffer thru life like the piece of **** that you are. I'm raw & super hyper-anxious today. Praying for release in a healthy manner.... Remember The Rage? I'm close...”​

.

“The Toxics are what I dread. Quickly it permeates my mood, turning me into a depressed, moody, angry person. This can stay that way for days before The Rage. Sometimes I can hide The Toxics all the way up to the rage but it always comes; always. I'm ashamed that my kids have lived in fear at times. We all joke about my epic temper but there's an underlying ugliness. I've broken things, said heinous things, & acted a fool. Once The Rage is over, depression takes hold.”​

.

“PTSD is the kingpin in my mental illness BUT I'm also ADD with OCD. This leads to....quirks. My food can't touch. M&M's & Skittles have to be separated & eaten in a certain way. Specific colors. Never mixing. I can eat one food at a time, always in the same order. No wire hangers. Not because of "Mommie Dearest" but because of the sound they make on the rack. I have to sleep away from the door. If someone breaks in, they'll have to kill Spouse to get to me.​

​

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Aren't we supposed to report people like her? She's no different than the Newtown shooter!
.
Here’s her record for driving with a suspended license, expired registration and no insurance  "STATE OF OKLAHOMA vs. QUINN, ERIKA L " (TRC-2007-02304) | On Demand Court Records
.
Here’s her record for operating a motor vehicle without a driver’s license  "STATE OF OKLAHOMA vs. QUINN, ERIKA LESLIE " (TR-2000-00985) | On Demand Court Records
.
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HAMMER THIS WOMAN!!!!

 

[JCliff]

People need to work hard to bring public awareness to the board members of the moms.
.
Send it everywhere. Publish it everywhere. Send correspondence to the moms telling them you have decided to withhold donations and support because of their appointment of disturbed people to their board. Then send them this....
.
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-
.
.
Moms board member Erica Quinn is as nuts as a junkyard dog.
.
Here’s the emergency protection order requiring she stay away from her own kids --> OCIS Case Summary for PO-2013-960- LEWIS LEWIS LEWIS LEWIS, WILLIAM CHRISTOPHER v. QUINN, ERIKA (Tulsa County District Court)
.
Here’s her blog --> HowIMetMyTherapist: July 2014 where she espouses hatred and violence…
.

“My anxiety is thru the roof, & the night terrors are bad. I'm sleeping a lot due to waking up so frequently. I need to blow my top, & soon.”​

.

“The Rage is still there, bubbling, boiling, waiting to blow the top in nuclear fashion.”​

.

“Dear Mason, F--- you. My hatred for you burns like acid on my soul. F--- you, f--- you, f--- YOU!!! But knowing that maybe, somewhere out there, you relive battle nightmares from one war or another, makes me giggly. I hate you & hope you suffer thru life like the piece of **** that you are. I'm raw & super hyper-anxious today. Praying for release in a healthy manner.... Remember The Rage? I'm close...”​

.

“The Toxics are what I dread. Quickly it permeates my mood, turning me into a depressed, moody, angry person. This can stay that way for days before The Rage. Sometimes I can hide The Toxics all the way up to the rage but it always comes; always. I'm ashamed that my kids have lived in fear at times. We all joke about my epic temper but there's an underlying ugliness. I've broken things, said heinous things, & acted a fool. Once The Rage is over, depression takes hold.”​

.

“PTSD is the kingpin in my mental illness BUT I'm also ADD with OCD. This leads to....quirks. My food can't touch. M&M's & Skittles have to be separated & eaten in a certain way. Specific colors. Never mixing. I can eat one food at a time, always in the same order. No wire hangers. Not because of "Mommie Dearest" but because of the sound they make on the rack. I have to sleep away from the door. If someone breaks in, they'll have to kill Spouse to get to me.​

​

.
Aren't we supposed to report people like her? She's no different than the Newtown shooter!
.
Here’s her record for driving with a suspended license, expired registration and no insurance  "STATE OF OKLAHOMA vs. QUINN, ERIKA L " (TRC-2007-02304) | On Demand Court Records
.
Here’s her record for operating a motor vehicle without a driver’s license  "STATE OF OKLAHOMA vs. QUINN, ERIKA LESLIE " (TR-2000-00985) | On Demand Court Records
.
.
.
HAMMER THIS WOMAN!!!!

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Wow. A lot of absolutely toxic rage going on here. I wouldn't want this person anywhere near me either. Liberals won't mind any of this though, because she preaches the narrative they want...
.
You can be a hater as long as you hate the "right things" and the "right" people...

 

[BluesStringer]

People need to work hard to bring public awareness to the board members of the moms.
.
Send it everywhere. Publish it everywhere. Send correspondence to the moms telling them you have decided to withhold donations and support because of their appointment of disturbed people to their board. Then send them this....
.
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-
.
.
Moms board member Erica Quinn is as nuts as a junkyard dog.
.
Here’s the emergency protection order requiring she stay away from her own kids --> OCIS Case Summary for PO-2013-960- LEWIS LEWIS LEWIS LEWIS, WILLIAM CHRISTOPHER v. QUINN, ERIKA (Tulsa County District Court)
.
Here’s her blog --> HowIMetMyTherapist: July 2014 where she espouses hatred and violence…
.

“My anxiety is thru the roof, & the night terrors are bad. I'm sleeping a lot due to waking up so frequently. I need to blow my top, & soon.”​

.

“The Rage is still there, bubbling, boiling, waiting to blow the top in nuclear fashion.”​

.

“Dear Mason, F--- you. My hatred for you burns like acid on my soul. F--- you, f--- you, f--- YOU!!! But knowing that maybe, somewhere out there, you relive battle nightmares from one war or another, makes me giggly. I hate you & hope you suffer thru life like the piece of **** that you are. I'm raw & super hyper-anxious today. Praying for release in a healthy manner.... Remember The Rage? I'm close...”​

.

“The Toxics are what I dread. Quickly it permeates my mood, turning me into a depressed, moody, angry person. This can stay that way for days before The Rage. Sometimes I can hide The Toxics all the way up to the rage but it always comes; always. I'm ashamed that my kids have lived in fear at times. We all joke about my epic temper but there's an underlying ugliness. I've broken things, said heinous things, & acted a fool. Once The Rage is over, depression takes hold.”​

.

“PTSD is the kingpin in my mental illness BUT I'm also ADD with OCD. This leads to....quirks. My food can't touch. M&M's & Skittles have to be separated & eaten in a certain way. Specific colors. Never mixing. I can eat one food at a time, always in the same order. No wire hangers. Not because of "Mommie Dearest" but because of the sound they make on the rack. I have to sleep away from the door. If someone breaks in, they'll have to kill Spouse to get to me.​

.
Aren't we supposed to report people like her? She's no different than the Newtown shooter!
.
Here’s her record for driving with a suspended license, expired registration and no insurance  "STATE OF OKLAHOMA vs. QUINN, ERIKA L " (TRC-2007-02304) | On Demand Court Records
.
Here’s her record for operating a motor vehicle without a driver’s license  "STATE OF OKLAHOMA vs. QUINN, ERIKA LESLIE " (TR-2000-00985) | On Demand Court Records
.
.
.
HAMMER THIS WOMAN!!!!

First, a question of BC: Are any of the words above your own BC? It appears to be from an article or something, but I don't see a link or attribution so I don't know.

I'm specifically curious about whether the line "HAMMER THIS WOMAN!!!!" is your admonition or not?

I went to her blog (linked in the quote-box above). I can't get a fix on her exact age, but I'm guessing it's around 35 - 45 from some hints in some of her ramblings. If they were still around (which they're not), I could show y'all old postings of my late sister's (due to suicide) that would be indistinguishable from this woman's writings. My sister's first suicide attempt happened when she was 23 and I was 21. She took a bunch of Granny's pain pills the night before, and Granny got worried when she didn't get up by 11:00 the next morning. Went to check on her and found the doorknob had been removed from the door to her room, so she went next door to get my cousin to jimmy the latch or break the door down, the latter of which he did. She was unconscious, cold as stone and white as a ghost. Both my Granny and cousin thought she was dead, and had even less hope 20 or 30 minutes later before the ambulance got there (either very early days of 911, or it hadn't made it to SoCal at that time yet), but they were able to get her heart pumping again and she spent the next week or 10 days in the hospital intubated with a breathing tube. She woke up a very different person than the one who put herself to sleep a week or 10 days earlier. I always thought she was deprived of oxygen long enough to have severely damaged her brain, but from the time she woke up until she succeeded with the last of maybe 20 or more half-hearted attempts over the next 30 years, all of the things the woman is saying about PTSD, child abuse, irrational responses to innocuous utterances of others etc. were nearly identical to my sister's delusions and psychosis. My sister claimed child abuse by the same cousin who rescued her. She claimed she remembered the abuse, that she'd never mentioned before waking up after that first suicide attempt, from age two to three, which would've made my cousin age five to six. Of course it never happened even once, much less for a whole year, but that "year of abuse" was the cause of the PTSD-type diagnosis that her psychiatrist thought was legitimate enough to put her on Disability for the last 12 years of her life. Erica Quinn in her blog says she was repeatedly raped by her grandfather starting at age four. She "can still taste it" she says, and "it" appears right in front of her face at random times even now. It "stinks" and it's "ugly" and these random appearances drive her into "night terrors" etc.

I guess the only reason I am responding to the post above is to say this about that line, "HAMMER THIS WOMAN!!!!!: You can hammer her if you want, but nothing you say to her will be more tortuous than the voices in her head are. If you read her blog, you'll realize that even she understands how completely disassociated with the rest of humanity she is. Even she knows she's irrational and "not normal." These revelations and epiphanies that you can read her coming to are not to make herself look normal or rational to the outside world, that blog is totally dedicated to her writing to herself for her own benefit. Some of it is profoundly self-aware, but most of it is justifying her dislike, distrust and maybe even hatred of men, especially Special Forces members, one of which she says raped her as a young adult in '98. She equates guns with Special Forces, Special Forces with wanton killing, wanton killing with availability of guns in a never-ending cycle of circular logic that no rationality will ever penetrate, because she is quite literally, insane.

The usefulness of the information about Erica Quinn would not be realized by "hammering" her. She'll never get it from a logical, legal, constitutional or defensive perspective that guns serve a positive purpose in our society. Probably neither will her cohorts at MDA, but if there's a "smear" to be legitimately foisted here, it's at the rest of the "sane" MDA for having the horrendous judgment of putting this woman in a leadership position of any kind within their organization. There might also be usefulness in forwarding these blog posts to the corporate headquarters of both companies that have already succumbed to MDA pressures, and those (like Kroger maybe) either being hounded by them or trying to find a good reason to tell them to go pound sand. But in no instance can I find any reason or anything to be gained by hounding an obviously extremely mentally ill woman who is so wrapped up in her own psychosis as to be quite adept at tuning the rest of humanity out. In her mind, she is already the victim, or nail as it were, and everybody else is a hammer.

Blues

 

[aacx22]

People need to work hard to bring public awareness to the board members of the moms.
.
Send it everywhere. Publish it everywhere. Send correspondence to the moms telling them you have decided to withhold donations and support because of their appointment of disturbed people to their board. Then send them this....
.
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-
.
.
Moms board member Erica Quinn is as nuts as a junkyard dog.
.
Here’s the emergency protection order requiring she stay away from her own kids --> OCIS Case Summary for PO-2013-960- LEWIS LEWIS LEWIS LEWIS, WILLIAM CHRISTOPHER v. QUINN, ERIKA (Tulsa County District Court)
.
Here’s her blog --> HowIMetMyTherapist: July 2014 where she espouses hatred and violence…
.

“My anxiety is thru the roof, & the night terrors are bad. I'm sleeping a lot due to waking up so frequently. I need to blow my top, & soon.”​

.

“The Rage is still there, bubbling, boiling, waiting to blow the top in nuclear fashion.”​

.

“Dear Mason, F--- you. My hatred for you burns like acid on my soul. F--- you, f--- you, f--- YOU!!! But knowing that maybe, somewhere out there, you relive battle nightmares from one war or another, makes me giggly. I hate you & hope you suffer thru life like the piece of **** that you are. I'm raw & super hyper-anxious today. Praying for release in a healthy manner.... Remember The Rage? I'm close...”​

.

“The Toxics are what I dread. Quickly it permeates my mood, turning me into a depressed, moody, angry person. This can stay that way for days before The Rage. Sometimes I can hide The Toxics all the way up to the rage but it always comes; always. I'm ashamed that my kids have lived in fear at times. We all joke about my epic temper but there's an underlying ugliness. I've broken things, said heinous things, & acted a fool. Once The Rage is over, depression takes hold.”​

.

“PTSD is the kingpin in my mental illness BUT I'm also ADD with OCD. This leads to....quirks. My food can't touch. M&M's & Skittles have to be separated & eaten in a certain way. Specific colors. Never mixing. I can eat one food at a time, always in the same order. No wire hangers. Not because of "Mommie Dearest" but because of the sound they make on the rack. I have to sleep away from the door. If someone breaks in, they'll have to kill Spouse to get to me.​

​

.
Aren't we supposed to report people like her? She's no different than the Newtown shooter!
.
Here’s her record for driving with a suspended license, expired registration and no insurance  "STATE OF OKLAHOMA vs. QUINN, ERIKA L " (TRC-2007-02304) | On Demand Court Records
.
Here’s her record for operating a motor vehicle without a driver’s license  "STATE OF OKLAHOMA vs. QUINN, ERIKA LESLIE " (TR-2000-00985) | On Demand Court Records
.
.
.
HAMMER THIS WOMAN!!!!

Wow... I'm all for people sharing and/or fighting for their beliefs... but definitely this one needs to get a handle on her own life before she tries to fix her community or the nation.

 

[aacx22]

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Wow. A lot of absolutely toxic rage going on here. I wouldn't want this person anywhere near me either. Liberals won't mind any of this though, because she preaches the narrative they want...
.
You can be a hater as long as you hate the "right things" and the "right" people...

I don't think that's true... normal people don't want to deal with crazies, regardless of their political leaning.

 

[Oldgrunt]

I don't think that's true... normal people don't want to deal with crazies, regardless of their political leaning.

That response begs a question, "Aren't all Liberals regarded as crazies?" :smile:

 

[CapGun]

First, a question of BC: Are any of the words above your own BC? It appears to be from an article or something, but I don't see a link or attribution so I don't know.

I'm specifically curious about whether the line "HAMMER THIS WOMAN!!!!" is your admonition or not?

I went to her blog (linked in the quote-box above). I can't get a fix on her exact age, but I'm guessing it's around 35 - 45 from some hints in some of her ramblings. If they were still around (which they're not), I could show y'all old postings of my late sister's (due to suicide) that would be indistinguishable from this woman's writings. My sister's first suicide attempt happened when she was 23 and I was 21. She took a bunch of Granny's pain pills the night before, and Granny got worried when she didn't get up by 11:00 the next morning. Went to check on her and found the doorknob had been removed from the door to her room, so she went next door to get my cousin to jimmy the latch or break the door down, the latter of which he did. She was unconscious, cold as stone and white as a ghost. Both my Granny and cousin thought she was dead, and had even less hope 20 or 30 minutes later before the ambulance got there (either very early days of 911, or it hadn't made it to SoCal at that time yet), but they were able to get her heart pumping again and she spent the next week or 10 days in the hospital intubated with a breathing tube. She woke up a very different person than the one who put herself to sleep a week or 10 days earlier. I always thought she was deprived of oxygen long enough to have severely damaged her brain, but from the time she woke up until she succeeded with the last of maybe 20 or more half-hearted attempts over the next 30 years, all of the things the woman is saying about PTSD, child abuse, irrational responses to innocuous utterances of others etc. were nearly identical to my sister's delusions and psychosis. My sister claimed child abuse by the same cousin who rescued her. She claimed she remembered the abuse, that she'd never mentioned before waking up after that first suicide attempt, from age two to three, which would've made my cousin age five to six. Of course it never happened even once, much less for a whole year, but that "year of abuse" was the cause of the PTSD-type diagnosis that her psychiatrist thought was legitimate enough to put her on Disability for the last 12 years of her life. Erica Quinn in her blog says she was repeatedly raped by her grandfather starting at age four. She "can still taste it" she says, and "it" appears right in front of her face at random times even now. It "stinks" and it's "ugly" and these random appearances drive her into "night terrors" etc.

I guess the only reason I am responding to the post above is to say this about that line, "HAMMER THIS WOMAN!!!!!: You can hammer her if you want, but nothing you say to her will be more tortuous than the voices in her head are. If you read her blog, you'll realize that even she understands how completely disassociated with the rest of humanity she is. Even she knows she's irrational and "not normal." These revelations and epiphanies that you can read her coming to are not to make herself look normal or rational to the outside world, that blog is totally dedicated to her writing to herself for her own benefit. Some of it is profoundly self-aware, but most of it is justifying her dislike, distrust and maybe even hatred of men, especially Special Forces members, one of which she says raped her as a young adult in '98. She equates guns with Special Forces, Special Forces with wanton killing, wanton killing with availability of guns in a never-ending cycle of circular logic that no rationality will ever penetrate, because she is quite literally, insane.

The usefulness of the information about Erica Quinn would not be realized by "hammering" her. She'll never get it from a logical, legal, constitutional or defensive perspective that guns serve a positive purpose in our society. Probably neither will her cohorts at MDA, but if there's a "smear" to be legitimately foisted here, it's at the rest of the "sane" MDA for having the horrendous judgment of putting this woman in a leadership position of any kind within their organization. There might also be usefulness in forwarding these blog posts to the corporate headquarters of both companies that have already succumbed to MDA pressures, and those (like Kroger maybe) either being hounded by them or trying to find a good reason to tell them to go pound sand. But in no instance can I find any reason or anything to be gained by hounding an obviously extremely mentally ill woman who is so wrapped up in her own psychosis as to be quite adept at tuning the rest of humanity out. In her mind, she is already the victim, or nail as it were, and everybody else is a hammer.

Blues

Blues..I am sorry that you and your family had to go through such horrible times with your sister. What you wrote is insightful and I agree with you.
What Erica Quinn writes bolsters what I say about those hoplophobes that want to end the 2A and take away out guns. They don't trust themselves with the awesome responsibility of gun ownership therefore they will never trust anyone else with a gun. She is the classic case of someone who should never be near a gun.
Don't hammer BC1 over his comment. I understand him to mean that as a leader of MDA she should be exposed and hammered for that position with MDA and her lack of credibility and expose her to her followers and others that might take her seriously not for her unfortunate mental illness.

 

[r1derbike]

I'm glad she (referenced and quoted) finally sought mental health treatment. I hope it works-out for her, however long it takes.

Sorry for your sister's demons, Blues. My father had demons, and he is no longer with us. He had his doctorate. Education makes no difference. His grave bore no headstone for several years.

 

[BluesStringer]

Blues..I am sorry that you and your family had to go through such horrible times with your sister. What you wrote is insightful and I agree with you.
What Erica Quinn writes bolsters what I say about those hoplophobes that want to end the 2A and take away out guns. They don't trust themselves with the awesome responsibility of gun ownership therefore they will never trust anyone else with a gun. She is the classic case of someone who should never be near a gun.
Don't hammer BC1 over his comment. I understand him to mean that as a leader of MDA she should be exposed and hammered for that position with MDA and her lack of credibility and expose her to her followers and others that might take her seriously not for her unfortunate mental illness.

I seriously doubt BC feels "hammered" by me simply asking if that was his comment or someone else's. I certainly did not intend it as such.

Erica Quinn claims to be a gun owner, which is the one area in which she invites "hammering," as her personal history with "rage" and "hate" and all kinds of disqualifying traits and psychiatric-diagnosed disorders prove that the extra background checks she calls for don't work if she really does own guns. You really should read her blog. As far as I could tell, it's new as of July, so there's not that much there to read, but there's certainly enough there to draw some pretty valid conclusions about her state of mind.

I appreciate the condolences. I was really just trying to give a point of reference for me having a little first-hand knowledge to draw the conclusions about Ms. Quinn that I did. I'm OK with what happened to and with my sister. But I really do appreciate the thought.

Blues

 

[aacx22]

That response begs a question, "Aren't all Liberals regarded as crazies?" :smile:

Ok, I laughed.

But you know what I meant.

 

[BC1]

First, a question of BC: Are any of the words above your own BC? It appears to be from an article or something, but I don't see a link or attribution so I don't know.

I'm specifically curious about whether the line "HAMMER THIS WOMAN!!!!" is your admonition or not?

I went to her blog (linked in the quote-box above). I can't get a fix on her exact age, but I'm guessing it's around 35 - 45 from some hints in some of her ramblings. If they were still around (which they're not), I could show y'all old postings of my late sister's (due to suicide) that would be indistinguishable from this woman's writings. My sister's first suicide attempt happened when she was 23 and I was 21. She took a bunch of Granny's pain pills the night before, and Granny got worried when she didn't get up by 11:00 the next morning. Went to check on her and found the doorknob had been removed from the door to her room, so she went next door to get my cousin to jimmy the latch or break the door down, the latter of which he did. She was unconscious, cold as stone and white as a ghost. Both my Granny and cousin thought she was dead, and had even less hope 20 or 30 minutes later before the ambulance got there (either very early days of 911, or it hadn't made it to SoCal at that time yet), but they were able to get her heart pumping again and she spent the next week or 10 days in the hospital intubated with a breathing tube. She woke up a very different person than the one who put herself to sleep a week or 10 days earlier. I always thought she was deprived of oxygen long enough to have severely damaged her brain, but from the time she woke up until she succeeded with the last of maybe 20 or more half-hearted attempts over the next 30 years, all of the things the woman is saying about PTSD, child abuse, irrational responses to innocuous utterances of others etc. were nearly identical to my sister's delusions and psychosis. My sister claimed child abuse by the same cousin who rescued her. She claimed she remembered the abuse, that she'd never mentioned before waking up after that first suicide attempt, from age two to three, which would've made my cousin age five to six. Of course it never happened even once, much less for a whole year, but that "year of abuse" was the cause of the PTSD-type diagnosis that her psychiatrist thought was legitimate enough to put her on Disability for the last 12 years of her life. Erica Quinn in her blog says she was repeatedly raped by her grandfather starting at age four. She "can still taste it" she says, and "it" appears right in front of her face at random times even now. It "stinks" and it's "ugly" and these random appearances drive her into "night terrors" etc.

I guess the only reason I am responding to the post above is to say this about that line, "HAMMER THIS WOMAN!!!!!: You can hammer her if you want, but nothing you say to her will be more tortuous than the voices in her head are. If you read her blog, you'll realize that even she understands how completely disassociated with the rest of humanity she is. Even she knows she's irrational and "not normal." These revelations and epiphanies that you can read her coming to are not to make herself look normal or rational to the outside world, that blog is totally dedicated to her writing to herself for her own benefit. Some of it is profoundly self-aware, but most of it is justifying her dislike, distrust and maybe even hatred of men, especially Special Forces members, one of which she says raped her as a young adult in '98. She equates guns with Special Forces, Special Forces with wanton killing, wanton killing with availability of guns in a never-ending cycle of circular logic that no rationality will ever penetrate, because she is quite literally, insane.

The usefulness of the information about Erica Quinn would not be realized by "hammering" her. She'll never get it from a logical, legal, constitutional or defensive perspective that guns serve a positive purpose in our society. Probably neither will her cohorts at MDA, but if there's a "smear" to be legitimately foisted here, it's at the rest of the "sane" MDA for having the horrendous judgment of putting this woman in a leadership position of any kind within their organization. There might also be usefulness in forwarding these blog posts to the corporate headquarters of both companies that have already succumbed to MDA pressures, and those (like Kroger maybe) either being hounded by them or trying to find a good reason to tell them to go pound sand. But in no instance can I find any reason or anything to be gained by hounding an obviously extremely mentally ill woman who is so wrapped up in her own psychosis as to be quite adept at tuning the rest of humanity out. In her mind, she is already the victim, or nail as it were, and everybody else is a hammer.

Blues

Blues, there was another post pointing to an article that then provided the links to her blog, etc. The "hammer her" line is all me. But what I really mean is "Hammer the MD group." I would like to see the public outcry against MD's. The general public who supports the MD's efforts generally doesn't really know the issue or the group. They're just ignorantly supporting a group they believe is working for some good. And they likely don't know how questionable the leadership is. I'm not interested in putting her down as a person. I'm interested in the world knowing just how poor the MD's judgment is in putting her on their board. This woman is clearly volatile and probably a little dangerous. In fact the court thought she was dangerous enough to slap a protection order on her. Who would harm their own kids??? Either the MD group didn't know about her, in which case they should be outed... or they did know in which case they should be outed. Either way it shows extremely poor judgment and the public needs to know.

 

[Krohbar]

Moms Demand Action. Much better XXX title.

 

[Nightmare45]

Note: Shut the hell up, you have no 1st amendment right without the 2nd.