The liberals on the bus go waa waa waaa...
How the heck does that little code of scripture "endanger" troops? If this hadn't hit the media no one, especially the enemy, would have even known about it. Like a few letters and numbers are going to make things worse for our troops. Let's OVERREACT to EVERYTHING. if the aholes want to call something a jihad, they don't need an excuse, they'll just do it.
The thing is, no one is objecting to anyone believing in anything. They are objecting to a group of numbers and letters. Do those characters stand for something? Trij has apparently acknowledged that they do. But so what? If that equates to our soldiers proselytizing (defined as "to convert or attempt to convert as a proselyte"), then so would wearing a cross or carrying a bible.you may want to ease up on the slander, just because one objects to believing in invisible entities in the sky, does not neccessarly make them liberal.
The thing is, no one is objecting to anyone believing in anything. They are objecting to a group of numbers and letters. Do those characters stand for something? Trij has apparently acknowledged that they do. But so what? If that equates to our soldiers proselytizing (defined as "to convert or attempt to convert as a proselyte"), then so would wearing a cross or carrying a bible.
Very well, point taken. Non the less, I'd be willing to make a wager as to the political persuasion of the complainant.All I was referring to was a previous post where someone mentioned something to the effect of, this must have been brought about by someone who rejects god, and therefore must be a liberal retard (libtard I believe was the exact word). I was trying to make the point that just because someone does not believe in god, nor does a person want religious references on merchandise that they buy, this should not automatically label them as a "Libtard".
Agreed, however I still don't understand how this equates to proselytizing. It's numbers and letters (which don't even construct words) right along side of some other numbers and letters that are printed on the side of optical equipment. Damn good optical equipment by the way, which has had these characters printed on them for 30 years. How long has our military been using them? (I don't know that answer) We're just now getting upset over it? How sad is it that we would throw away such a great product (arguably the BEST if the military has chosen it in the first place) over something so minor that it could be addressed with a Dremel tool if the individual chose to do so.I believe the reason that the anti proselytizing law is in effect is because our govt/military does not have a missionary type mission statement. Our govt does not send our military in to spread the word of god, or any other religious message. Nor should it, ever.
By that logic, how is this practice any less questionable? Through propaganda, I am sure that the enemy is convinced that the Bibles and crosses that many of our military personnel choose to carry are actually issued by our government. Just as any rational party knows that to be untrue, they also know that our government didn't require the engraving or make the contract choice based on that feature.It is because of our freedom of religious choice that individual members of our military are allowed to wear religious medallions, or carry religious reading materials on their person...
...So we now could be looked at, from an outside source, as just another fanatical religious govt trying to oppress someone else's beliefs.
Again, I can hardly believe that there isn't a Dremel tool floating around somewhere in Afghanistan. If someone doesn't like it there, it isn't that hard to get rid of.Or an even better idea would be to make it customizable to have any slogan you wanted engraved on it.