Michelle Obama bluntly says she'd rather sleep than go to church... unreal

Who cares? She's not the president and nobody here cast a vote for her.

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She is the most classless person yet. The way she dresses looks as if she shops at Goodwill or swipes clothes from the homeless. The world must be laughing their a$$es off until they have to meet and put up with her. Then from what we heard the people in China did not like her at all!
 
Michelle Obama bluntly says she'd rather sleep than go to church... unreal:


Don't you wish Laura Bush was First Lady instead of Michelle?

That would be low on the list of reasons I might not like her. And some seem to forget that W was no real let of liberty either. Some of his campaign spots were the first time I ever heard of First Amendment zones. His Imperial presidency set the stage for today's continued march toward tyranny.
 
So is it her assertion she was asleep during Rev. Jeremiah Wright's race and hate-filled sermons?
 
I'm not sure what the issue here is, something like 40% of Americans regularly attend church which mean 60% don't so most Americans agree with her




Opposite side of the same coin
Of course they're not the first lady. Same coin? Hardly.
 
The only church that either she or her husband could attend in any manner of truth is an Apostate (Laodicean) Church, so who cares? Don't be deceived, it's impossible for anyone, not just the Obama family, to be a Christian if they practice, support or condone (vote for) the murdering of children (abortion) or homosexual perversion in any way, shape or form. Romans 1:32.."Though they know God's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval (vote for) to those who practice them".
 
there are many things i'd rather do than go to church, regardless of what day of the week or time of day. root canals, plantar wart removal, upper GI, waterboarding...the list goes on and on. the great thing about this country is the fact that people can choose to believe or not. no matter that some people would love to see a nationally mandated religion of christianity (which would go against the beloved Constitution), we live in a place where we have the freedom and are not forced into believing stuff we do not.
 
The only church that either she or her husband could attend in any manner of truth is an Apostate (Laodicean) Church, so who cares? Don't be deceived, it's impossible for anyone, not just the Obama family, to be a Christian if they practice, support or condone (vote for) the murdering of children (abortion) or homosexual perversion in any way, shape or form. Romans 1:32.."Though they know God's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval (vote for) to those who practice them".

Let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he falls?

I have a hard time with passages like this, not because I disbelieve them but because I don’t fully understand them. Biblically if I practice any sin I deserve to die so the homosexual or the abortionist is no more unrighteous in God’s eyes than I am.

According to my understanding of Scripture all sin is equal in God’s eyes so I can’t see that these two specific sins are somehow judged as worse than all the others. Breaking the smallest commandment in the law is the same as breaking the whole law.

Even my human mind wants to separated sins, I can see how a person could be saved (confess with your mouth, believe in your heart, that’s all it takes) and still deceived into a homosexual lifestyle. I don’t know that I could see them continuing in it for any length of time before God deals with them about it but then I look at my life and I see sins that I still haven’t let go of and I know they’re wrong even if they aren’t homosexual behavior so I don’t have any stones to throw at a Christian that is bound in homosexual temptation and sin.
But the abortion issue I have problems with because I can’t see how anyone could profess Christ and say that’s OK but I know that Satan is an absolute master of deception and I wouldn’t want to underestimate him on any level.

Bottom line if I spend all my time worried about the speck in your eye I’m never going to be able to get the log out of mine
 
I'm sorry I wasn't aware that there was a requirement that the First Lady be a church goer.
Go to church. Don't go to church. No one cares. But don't go to church for 10 years, repeatedly sit through Jeremiah Wright's sermons and then say you never heard him say anything racist, because now you're a liar. I take exception to the lying. Truth is she's a racist who welcomed his racist rants. In a stump speech in NC in 2007 Michelle said "Barack is every man who's ever been kept down by THE MAN!" Who's "THE MAN" Michelle? Whitey? Your husband has been elected to the United States Senate and you're still claiming racism? Considering her best friend, Bernadette Dorn, was a Brink's Robbery conspirator and wife of Weatherman Bomber Bill Ayres, I'd say Michelle and Barry are persona non-grata.
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You'll let me know when your Obama prize arrives in the mail right?
 
On a personal level, I don't go to church a lot, even though my mother is a concert pianist/organist here.

My personal beliefs are complicated, and mine alone, summed-up one day as, "Mike's church" (mother always calls me by my nickname).

I abhor abortion, but take a live and let live stance, unless something crosses my path that causes me harm.

I may see science and religion coexisting, and while many are intolerant of one or the other, or both, it pains-me-not. I don't care.

I don't ridicule scientists, and the same goes for religion. Creationism and Evolution are just words to me. I don't care.

As a somewhat educated professional, my beliefs were molded by it.

Sleeping is good, going to Church is good, for those compelled to.

Meh.
 
Let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he falls?

I have a hard time with passages like this, not because I disbelieve them but because I don’t fully understand them. Biblically if I practice any sin I deserve to die so the homosexual or the abortionist is no more unrighteous in God’s eyes than I am.

According to my understanding of Scripture all sin is equal in God’s eyes so I can’t see that these two specific sins are somehow judged as worse than all the others. Breaking the smallest commandment in the law is the same as breaking the whole law.

Even my human mind wants to separated sins, I can see how a person could be saved (confess with your mouth, believe in your heart, that’s all it takes) and still deceived into a homosexual lifestyle. I don’t know that I could see them continuing in it for any length of time before God deals with them about it but then I look at my life and I see sins that I still haven’t let go of and I know they’re wrong even if they aren’t homosexual behavior so I don’t have any stones to throw at a Christian that is bound in homosexual temptation and sin.
But the abortion issue I have problems with because I can’t see how anyone could profess Christ and say that’s OK but I know that Satan is an absolute master of deception and I wouldn’t want to underestimate him on any level.

Bottom line if I spend all my time worried about the speck in your eye I’m never going to be able to get the log out of mine
First, presenting scriptural truth (Romans 1:32.."Though they know God's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval (vote for) to those who practice them") is not having a log in ones eye, quite to the contrary for those who understand scripture. Second, a person cannot be saved & deceived at the same time, why else did the Lord command us to "Repent" & "Be not Deceived"? Confess with your mouth & believe in your heart is not all it takes to be saved. Bottom line here has nothing to do with logs & specks in anyone's eye and pointing an ignorant proverbial finger. Bottom line here has everything to do with REPENTANCE.

It is true that there are numerous Bible verses that speak of the promise of salvation, with no mention of repentance. These merely say to "believe" on Jesus Christ and you shall be saved (Acts 16:31; Romans 10:9). However, the Bible makes it clear that God is holy and man is sinful, and that sin makes a separation between the two (Isaiah 59:1,2). Without repentance from sin, wicked men cannot have fellowship with a holy God. We are dead in our trespasses and sins (Ephesians 2:1) and until we forsake them through repentance, we cannot be made alive in Christ.

The Scriptures speak of "repentance unto life" (Acts 11:18). We turn from sin to the Savior. This is why Paul preached "repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ" (Acts 20:21). The first public word Jesus preached was "repent" (Matthew 4:17). John the Baptist began his ministry the same way (Matthew 3:2). Jesus told His hearers that without repentance, they would perish (Luke 13:3).

If belief is all that is necessary for salvation, then the logical conclusion is that one need never repent. However, the Bible tells us that a false convert "believes" and yet is not saved (Luke 8:13); he remains a "worker of iniquity." Look at the warning of Scripture: "If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth" (1 John 1:6). The Scriptures also say, "He that covers his sins shall not prosper, but whoso confesses and forsakes them [repentance] shall have mercy" (Proverbs 28:13). Jesus said that there was joy in heaven over one sinner who "repents" (Luke 15:10). If there is no repentance, there is no joy because there is no salvation.

When Peter preached on the Day of Pentecost, he commanded his hearers to repent "for the remission of sins" (Acts 2:38). Without repentance, there is no remission of sins; we are still under His wrath. Peter further said, "Repent . . . and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out" (Acts 3:19). We cannot be "converted" unless we repent. God Himself "commands all men everywhere [leaving no exceptions] to repent" (Acts 17:30). Peter said a similar thing at Pentecost: "Repent, and be baptized every one of you" (Acts 2:38).

If repentance wasn’t necessary for salvation, why then did Jesus command that repentance be preached to all nations (Luke 24:47)? With so many Scriptures speaking of the necessity of repentance for salvation, one can only suspect that those who preach salvation without repentance are strangers to repentance themselves, and thus strangers to true conversion.
 
(Rom 2:1-3 KJV 2000) Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, whosoever you are that judge: for in what you judge another, you condemn yourself; for you that judge do the same things.
2But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them who commit such things.
3And do you think, O man, that judge them who do such things, and do the same, that you shall escape the judgment of God?

The Bible makes it pretty clear that if you say you have no sin not only are you a liar but you’re calling God a liar.

So if you can’t be guilty of homosexual sin and be a Christian does that mean you can’t lie and be a Christian? Does that mean you can’t struggle with plain old heterosexual lust and be a Christian?

What makes homosexual sin worse than all others?

(Rom 2: 21-21 KJV 200) You therefore who teach another, can you not teach yourself? you that preach a man should not steal, do you steal?
22You that say a man should not commit adultery, do you commit adultery? you that abhor idols, do you commit sacrilege?
 
So if you can’t be guilty of homosexual sin and be a Christian does that mean you can’t lie and be a Christian? Does that mean you can’t struggle with plain old heterosexual lust and be a Christian?

What makes homosexual sin worse than all others?



The truth is that one will go to hell for being a homosexual and one will got to hell for being a sexual sinning heterosexual, but Christ blood washes away all those sins IF one REPENTS of these sins and trusts in him!” One can struggle with the sin and be saved, but, one can't practice the sin and be saved. Again, "Bottom line here has everything to do with REPENTANCE".

REPENTANCE.
..Repentance means a sincere turning away, in both the mind and heart, from self to God. Repentance is an essential part of salvation, requiring a turning away from the sin-ruled life to a life characterized by obedience to God. The Bible states that people are saved by faith alone (Ephesians 2:8-9). However, there can be no faith in Christ without repentance and no repentance without faith. The two are inseparable.


What makes homosexual sin worse than all others?

The homosexual lifestyle has been proven to have terrible affects on many homosexuals physically and emotionally. Homosexuals have been linked to being at greater risk for depression, suicide, anal cancer, STD’s, and in general have a shorter life expectancy (a male homosexual’s life expectancy is around 40 years old and a male heterosexual’s life expectancy is around 70 years old). In addition to these things homosexuals will not be able to fulfill the cultural mandate to be fruitful and multiply the earth through procreation. Another way that homosexuality is worse than other sins is that there is an entire movement of people who are joining together to teach and promote ungodly beliefs and behaviors. We have seen gay pride parades where homosexual behavior is not just being practiced but it is being flaunted. We have seen homosexuals identify themselves by this lifestyle and encourage others to join them in seeing this as part of their human identity. I'm certainly not trying to say that it is the worst of all sins or that as Christians this needs to be the one we fight against more than any other. In fact, I believe divorce is hurting marriages, families, and the church more than homosexuality or same-sex marriage is. Homosexuality has some pretty terrible consequences that may not happen to every practicing homosexual, but because these consequences are so frequently experienced among homosexuals we should take this sin more seriously than others.
 

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