Mexican standoff in AZ

[longslide10]

Why do our border agents consistently let this happen? Is **** Holder & Jeh Johnson telling them to stand down in those circumstances and be politically correct gentlemen border agents because we don't want to angrify Mexico? Anywhere else in the world you would be killed for doing that but here we look the other way apparently. How many more times is this going to happen and how many soldiers will it be next time? A platoon, a battalion, a brigade? I think we the people need to lend a hand down there and take care of business the old fashioned way and send a clear message to Mexico--DFWU.




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[Reloader54]

This is happening because of the Dictator in the WH. He has issued Some Executive Orders telling DHS and the DOJ not to enforce this country's IMAGRATION LAWS. And they in turn have told ICE also not to enforce the IMAGRATION LAWS as well. And some ICE Agents have even I think were thinking of filing a law suit or have already filed one because they are being told to look the other way and not to arrest anyone. And they have even been told to release some 68k Illegals back onto the streets of America instead of DEPORTING THEM. And some of these have large criminal records. And they range from murder, rape, assaults, robberies just to name a few. And some of these 68k have been DEPORTED in the past yet they still keep finding there way back into the country and when caught again they are now just let out on the streets where they can keep committing more crimes.

 

[jameshd]

In accordance with international law, invading a foreign country while armed, and acting as representatives of their government, they soldiers committed an act of war. The proper response of any U.S. citizen who found them would be to either shoot them or take them to the nearest law enforcement authority. If it had been our soldiers entering Mexico, I'll give you three guesses as to which of those options would have been used against them, and your first two guesses don't count.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Our border patrol guys should have shot the illegal foreign military soldiers for there illegal action when they crossed the border with hostile intent. They would have been more than justified in doing so.

 

[longslide10]

I had heard a rumor that Border Patrol agents are armed with rubber bullets. Can anyone verify that?

 

[vernsimpson]

I had heard a rumor that Border Patrol agents are armed with rubber bullets. Can anyone verify that?

I don't know if they are even armed. It seems like the Border Patrol has been reduced to only being "Door Men" and I would not be surprised if they are only armed with "Red Carpets" for anyone who crosses the border!

 

[Peggy Reist]

I had heard a rumor that Border Patrol agents are armed with rubber bullets. Can anyone verify that?

I've heard it's even less than that.

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[MI .45]

But those same agents can confront American citizens with real guns and live ammunition... what a country!

 

[Oldgrunt]

I don't care what some bureaucrat sitting behind a desk says, if I were a Border Patrolman, I would have live ammunition. I would not get shot at or run over just to appease some bleeding heart politicians. They, as law enforcement officers, should simply refuse the order to be a Welcome Station clerk. It all has to stop somewhere!

 

[Nick Burkhardt]

Maybe the Mexicans were just here to return some Fast and Furious guns?

 

[ezkl2230]

Such a wonderful administration we have. They let armed mexican soldiers enter and exit at will while one of our own sits in a Mexican prison without any effort by our government to get him back.

I have said it before, and I will keep saying it. I believe Obama ran for president for one reason - so he can exact his revenge on this country for the slights he believes he suffered growing up in a mixed race household. He will not be happy until he has decimated this country, thrown open our borders to anyone wishing to enter, and placed us at a strategic disadvantage.

 

[Nightmare45]

Since Amendment III of the constitution says, No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law. The Mexican troops will be shot. Reasoning, if we are in peace, they do not have my permission to be here, crossing our border by military constitutes an act of war.
KISS interpretation of the issue.

 

[longslide10]

So what would happen if all border patrol agents colluded to defy the Outhouse, DHS and the Dept of Injustice and carried M16's and a sidearm of their choice? What are those agencies going to do? I think this country needs to band together in complete defiance of all of govt. Time to just say **** you to the fed govt.

 

[ezkl2230]

So what would happen if all border patrol agents colluded to defy the Outhouse, DHS and the Dept of Injustice and carried M16's and a sidearm of their choice? What are those agencies going to do? I think this country needs to band together in complete defiance of all of govt. Time to just say **** you to the fed govt.

Here's your chance. I posted this a day or so ago when I first heard about it.

On May 16, what is hoped will be a group of patriots numbering in the millions reminiscent of the so-called "Arab Spring" is supposed to descend on DC to call for and effect the non-violent ousters of Obama, Biden, Holder, Boehner, and other corrupt officials. This is from the group's web page, Operation American Spring, Restoring the Constitution of The United States of America:

Date of Operation: "OPERATION AMERICAN SPRING - Beginning Of Tyranny Housecleaning, May 16, 2014, completion to be determined

We are past the point of no return, thus must move forward with an effort to save our nation, as there is no other choice. We are asking, pleading with you, and any others that have resources, national voices, email lists, blogs, FB, Twitter, to call for a non-violent American Spring May 16 2014 in Washington D.C. We must appeal to ten million and more American patriots to come and stay in Washington, D.C. to stop the White House and Congress from total destruction of the United States. It's now or never. God help us.

This is their "Concept of Operations:"

Concept of Operations:Phase 1 - Field millions, as many as ten million, patriots who will assemble in a peaceful, non-violent, physically unarmed (Spiritually/Constitutionally armed), display of unswerving loyalty to the US Constitution and against the incumbent government leadership in Washington D.C., with the mission to replace with law abiding leadership. Go full-bore, no looking back, steadfast in the mission.
Phase 2 - One million or more of the assembled 10 million must be prepared to stay in D.C. as long as it takes to see Obama, Biden, Reid, McConnell, Boehner, Pelosi, and Attorney General Holder removed from office.
Consistent with the US Constitution, as required, the U.S. Congress will take appropriate action, execute appropriate legislation, deal with vacancies, or U.S. States will appoint replacements for positions vacated consistent with established constitutional requirements.
Phase 3 - Those with the principles of a West, Cruz, Dr. Ben Carson, Lee, DeMint, Paul, Gov Walker, Sessions, Gowdy, Jordan, should comprise a tribunal and assume positions of authority to convene investigations, recommend appropriate charges against politicians and government employees to the new U.S. Attorney General appointed by the new President.

The Washington Times Headline reads "Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Boehner, Biden, Holder, Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder - Washington Times.

To be completely honest, I am surprised this media outlet is even reporting this potential event.

 

[MI .45]

So what would happen if all border patrol agents colluded to defy the Outhouse, DHS and the Dept of Injustice and carried M16's and a sidearm of their choice? What are those agencies going to do? I think this country needs to band together in complete defiance of all of govt. Time to just say **** you to the fed govt.

Unfortunately, US Border Patrol have been among the worst offenders against US citizens rights. To me, they are part of the problem by being whole hearted enablers of the police state. I don't see them being on the side of the people unless it looks as if the folks are winning.
Many cops will not be willing to risk themselves or their families defying the government (biting the hand and all of that). Toe the line, do what you're told, you and yours will be taken care of. Great inducement; one that many LEO's - no matter where their hearts are - will be able to resist.