Mental illness diagnosis and appeals?

Falesta

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Hi All,

New to the forum here and I thought maybe someone here might have an answer for me.

I just got my first gun a couple weeks ago. My family has always been big into guns. I plan on taking lessons soon. I also want to pursue a concealed pistol permit but I have a problem.

A couple years ago I was struggling with a little depression/anxiety. I decided to go see a psychiatrist thinking a little professional counseling could help me get back on track. well, I walked out of her office 15 minutes later with a diagnosed mental condition called bipolar II, a mild form of regular bipolar. Looking back, I wish I wouldn't have sought help from a psychiatrist. I've always doubted the diagnosis. I should have went to a basic therapist instead because I wasn't looking for a diagnosis or meds. I don't know what I was thinking. I should know better being a nurse. Now I will forever have on my medical record that I am bipolar.

Anyways, I live in Michigan. One of the rules for getting a concealed pistol license is that you can not have a diagnosed mental illness at the time that you apply. So I am pretty certain that my application will be denied just based on that.

What I am wondering is if it would be fruitless to apply for a permit and then an appeal once I am denied? I am wondering if going before the board with the appeal and explaining some things to them would help? I also plan to tell them that I am a NICU nurse (I take care of critically ill newborns and infants). It's a very stressful job but my supposed mental illness has never prevented me from being a good nurse. I am also a mother of a happy, healthy 6 year old daughter and my mental illness has never rendered me unable to care for her. I have never been suicidal, nor have I ever tried to harm someone else. At my worst, I simply did not want to do anything; didn't want to leave the house or eat food. The "mania" aspect of my supposed bipolar just made me extremely irritable where I just wanted to be left alone, but I was never violent. I'm a good citizen!

Any opinions or advice would be appreciated.
 
I would contact the NRA Civil Rights Defense Fund; they should be able to set you up with a consultation with a lawyer. It might end up being expensive, but as a CCW permit holder, I can ABSOLUTELY GUARANTEE it is worth fighting for. Here's their website:

Civil Rights Legal Defense Fund - Home
 
I looked at the website for requirement for a Michigan CCW permit, and it says, "16. Not have a diagnosed mental illness at the time the application is made, regardless of whether he or she is receiving treatment." It's not that you ever had a mental illness, just if you have the illness NOW. What you can do is find out how to make it so you are no longer diagnosed with the illness. I'm not sure what that would entail. Bipolar II is not an illness that someone necessarily has for the rest of his life. Bipolar II goes away quite frequently, in fact. It shouldn't be a problem for you to argue you no longer have it. Maybe going to a doctor would be the best way to change that, but I'm not sure. Here's the link with the quote:

MSP - Concealed Pistol License Requirements

Good luck! It's worth it!
 

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