Maybe the first case since Castle Doctrine was past in Pennsylvania.

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From the Altoona Mirror
HOLLIDAYSBURG - January's shooting death of an Altoona man in Allegheny Township has been ruled as justified under Pennsylvania's "Castle Doctrine," Blair County District Attorney Richard Consiglio said Wednesday in a statement.
Consiglio said his office "is legally prohibited from filing charges against [homeowner] Timothy Lepore."
Lepore shot Brandon L. Zeth, 24, early Jan. 14 on the porch of Lepore's home. Zeth died Feb. 8 at a Pittsburgh hospital.
"The statement lays out the facts as I believe them to be," Lepore's attorney, Steven Passarello, said. "It also lays out Mr. Zeth's intoxication level. It is clearly an unfortunately tragic incident, and I think the statement says that."
An attempt to reach Zeth's family for comment wasn't immediately successful late Wednesday.
Zeth's blood-alcohol level was 0.274 percent, more than three times the legal limit in Pennsylvania, Consiglio said.
Zeth entered Lepore's property without permission and went on the porch where he began to bang on a bedroom window in hopes he would be allowed inside, thinking it was his girlfriend's home, Consiglio said.
"Mr. Lepore reported that he informed Zeth that he had a gun and would shoot, but Zeth refused to leave," Consiglio wrote in his statement. "Mr. Lepore asserted that he then displayed his firearm to Mr. Zeth prior to its discharge."
"The investigation [by Allegheny Township police] revealed that Lepore subsequently fired three rounds through the bedroom window, striking Zeth."
Consiglio said his review of the Castle Doctrine and the facts of the case, which included the time of day, show that Lepore had the presumption under Pennsylvania law that Zeth was attempting to enter the home and Lepore and/or his wife were in danger of death or serious bodily injury.
"Mr. Zeth was not deserving of his fate, and I would like to reiterate my sincere condolences to his family and all who knew him. My obligation, however, in the present matter is to view the circumstances and examine whether or not the belief that Mr. Lepore had at the time was reasonable and justified," Consiglio said.
"Unfortunately, at the time of the incident, Mr. Lepore was unaware that Mr. Zeth was unintentionally on his property. His actions, while regrettable, were justified under the current State of Pennsylvania law.
 
I had almost the same thing happen a couple of years ago. It's 0200 hrs and I hear a key slide into the front door lock (condo, the door is about ten feet from the bed), then the yelling, kicking the door and more key stuff start. Thirty degrees out side and a young man in a tee shirt is trying to get in and insist it is his house. I went to a window by the door showed him I was armed, he said, "why won't you let me in my house, I'm going to die aren't I". I said, "I'm calling 911", he said, "please don't I'm in the Coast Guard" and left.

After he left I decided he probably was just a drunk Coastie and I worried he might die of hypothermia. I live in Oregon, if I had shot him through the door or window I'd be in jail right now and I think that's the way it should be. Call 911 don't shoot someone in your yard, he might just be drunk.
 
"I'd be in jail right now and I think that's the way it should be. Call 911 don't shoot someone in your yard, he might just be drunk."

gnat

Completely agree! This is not the best case for the use of Castle. Where was the weapon?
 
It was passed, spell checked#@!!@#. Didn't say it was the right thing to do but only how it played out. The young guy was having a argument with his girlfriend and he went back to try to talk to her. He was drunk and was at the house next door. He did not deserve to die and that was not my intent. I would hope I never would react like that but I can't say. I've never been in that position. Also our D.A. is not overly frendly with the 2nd Amendment.
 
The problem with spell check, it doesn't check for proper usage. :wink: I usually try to avoid picking on the usual mistakes. But I see so many of them anymore, it makes you wonder sometimes.

The worst part, is when I see journalists making spelling mistakes that get past the editors. I mean, aren't they supposed to catch those mistakes BEFORE they go to print? Oh well.
 
The problem with spell check, it doesn't check for proper usage. :wink: I usually try to avoid picking on the usual mistakes. But I see so many of them anymore, it makes you wonder sometimes.

The worst part, is when I see journalists making spelling mistakes that get past the editors. I mean, aren't they supposed to catch those mistakes BEFORE they go to print? Oh well.

Gotta love ya Big Gay Al. As a breeder I usually agree with what you say but you have to know that when I read your posts or your blog I hear it in the South Park voice.
 
Gotta love ya Big Gay Al. As a breeder I usually agree with what you say but you have to know that when I read your posts or your blog I hear it in the South Park voice.
That's ok. I don't mind. :smile: Of course, most people are surprised when they meet me in person, and I sound NOTHING like the guy on South Park. I think some of them are slightly disappointed. :wink:
 
I don't think I could make 15 characters altogether for all of the RPGs I have. GURPS Cyberpunk, MechWarrior, BattleTech doesn't really have "characters" per se, White Wolf games: Vampire, Werewolf, Wraith, Changeling, d20 games, Original D&D red box... I think I'd have to make about two each. /silly

While I agree that being drunk off your ass in someone else's yard should not be a fatal mistake, someone who is a habitual drunkard, aside from not being a proper person for an Indiana LTCH, should understand that getting stoned out of your senses is likely to lead them into cases where their wits are denied them in a situation where they need their wits to avoid such danger. If you know you're gonna get drunk, handcuff yourself to a radiator in your bathroom to do it. Don't be doing it in public where your poor decision making skills (to get drunk in the first place, nevermind decisions made WHILE drunk) are not liable to run afoul of my private property rights or personal safety. There. Problem solved.

Since drunkies are not likely to have the mental power to light up an LED, I simply accept that they will, from time to time, get themselves deleted in scenarios where a sober person would not.
 

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