Maryland Permits


Robbie

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I live in WV on the state line with MD and have my WV state permit to carry (which I do). If I'm out running around and I need to run to say Lowes, Walmart or even the market I have to stop at my house and take off my weapon. This is getting to be a hassle. Is anything going on state or federal level so that those of us living on the state line don't have to leave out weapon's home?
 

Currently Maryland does not accept concealed carry permits from any other state. While they are a "may issue" state, I've heard rumor that MD permits are difficult for non-residents to obtain.

You may be able to transport the gun unloaded, in your vehicle, provided certain conditions are met. (In other words, unload it and lock it in an underseat lockbox or something before crossing into MD, while you don't have a Maryland permit.)

For more information, start at the link below. There is information about how to apply for a Maryland permit, along with information about transporting firearms in MD:

http://handgunlaw.us/states/maryland.pdf

Meanwhile - there is legislation pending in congress that will compel each state that issues concealed carry permits to recognize the permits from all other states. HR 822 was passed by the US House of Representatives in November of last year. Its companion bill, S 2188, was read twice in March by the senate, and then referred to the Committee on the Judiciary, where it is sitting collecting dust. I urge you to write, call, or email your Senators demanding action on this bill.
 
Is anything going on state or federal level so that those of us living on the state line don't have to leave out weapon's home?

National Reciprocity has passed in the House and currently sits in the Senate. Prospects right now don't look good as Sen. Fienstien of the Socialist Republic of Kalifornia has threatened to filibuster. That means it would need 60 votes instead of 51 to pass. We are close but it may be another good election away from becoming reality.
 
There is currently a SAF v MD lawsuit...the Judge found MD's "good & substantial" requirement for obtaining a permit to be unconstitutional. There is currently a temporary stay on that order which could be lifted in the next couple of weeks. If it is lifted that would essentially make MD a "Shall Issue" state. There are many MD residents and even Non-residents that have either already submitted apps or are holding them until the stay is lifted.
 
I live close to the New Jersey border. I feel your pain. Maryland going "shall issue" would be really cool. However, Maryland has Baltmore, which had that mayor who was tauting a dollar-a-bullet tax no too long ago. Maryland, like other states with strong anti-gun laws are basically held hostage to their large city.
 
I live in WV on the state line with MD and have my WV state permit to carry (which I do). If I'm out running around and I need to run to say Lowes, Walmart or even the market I have to stop at my house and take off my weapon. This is getting to be a hassle. Is anything going on state or federal level so that those of us living on the state line don't have to leave out weapon's home?

I have the exact same situation. My solution: inexpensive cable-secured lockbox that fits my handgun and the spare mag I carry, as well as the mag in the piece. Stop just before the MD line, unload, place handgun, both mags (and +1 round) into lockbox, lock it and place it under the seat, secured by cable. As soon as I cross back into WV, stop, unlock the lockbox, load, top off the mag to +1, holster, place spare mag in carrier. My lockbox is not a SAFE, but it meets the requirements and is sturdy enough to prevent a smash-and-grab. Yeah, it's a royal PITA & now I know why my neighbors' cars stop at that wide spot in the road near the MD line.

The ongoing lawsuit in MD, as I see it, is being brought by/on behalf of RESIDENTS of MD. Even a favorable decision MAY not apply to non-residents seeking a MD permit. That alone WILL NOT cause MD to begin recognizing other state permits.

Federal "y'all play nice and recognize each other's permits" legislation is likely DEAD for this Congress. IF we get good results in November, the next Congress and Administration MAY be more likely to just "git 'er done". We'll see.
 
The ongoing lawsuit in MD, as I see it, is being brought by/on behalf of RESIDENTS of MD. Even a favorable decision MAY not apply to non-residents seeking a MD permit. That alone WILL NOT cause MD to begin recognizing other state permits.

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Why wouldn't it?
 
Why wouldn't it?

It depends upon the wording in the decision. If the court directly addresses ONLY the issue with RESIDENT permits, MD could just be stubborn enough to claim that the decision impacts ONLY the RESIDENT permit process. IF there is ANY "wiggle room", MD may decide it can still impose a differing requirement upon issue of permits to non-residents. Indeed, many states DO impose additional requirements for non-residents seeking permits.
 
It depends upon the wording in the decision. If the court directly addresses ONLY the issue with RESIDENT permits, MD could just be stubborn enough to claim that the decision impacts ONLY the RESIDENT permit process. IF there is ANY "wiggle room", MD may decide it can still impose a differing requirement upon issue of permits to non-residents. Indeed, many states DO impose additional requirements for non-residents seeking permits.

I agree, Maryland will only change their rules for issuing permits on a regular basis kicking and screaming. If they are forced to start being a little more reasonable with permits, they will read the court order very narrowly. Since it is a resident suing, the decision probably will deal with only residents though the opinion will probably not mention non-residents. Since some states will only issue permits to residents, Maryland will probably go the same way, and not become the welcoming state that people hope it will become.

Of course if Frederick County got their wish to allow local sheriffs issue permits instead of the MDSP, I think you would find a lot more permits issues in Western Maryland, and the Eastern Shore. Might not help with the non-resident permit issue though.
 
I agree, Maryland will only change their rules for issuing permits on a regular basis kicking and screaming. If they are forced to start being a little more reasonable with permits, they will read the court order very narrowly. Since it is a resident suing, the decision probably will deal with only residents though the opinion will probably not mention non-residents. Since some states will only issue permits to residents, Maryland will probably go the same way, and not become the welcoming state that people hope it will become.

Of course if Frederick County got their wish to allow local sheriffs issue permits instead of the MDSP, I think you would find a lot more permits issues in Western Maryland, and the Eastern Shore. Might not help with the non-resident permit issue though.

That would require a change in statute.
 

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