Manassas, VA, Buffalo Wild Wings employee gives police a taste of no guns policy....

[ezkl2230]

The eight officers were in plain clothes, had their service weapons holstered, and were wearing badges. They were on a break, stopping for a bite to eat. An employee told them they would not be allowed into the restaurant unless they secured their firearms because this particular Buffalo Wild Wings has a no guns policy. The manager, who was off that day, has been trying to apologize to the officers personally for the incident, so far without success.

No word on if the employee is still employed.

I wonder how the officers felt about this? After all, they had just stopped in for a meal on private property that was posted firearms free; the employee was just enforcing the franchise policy. Did they feel humiliated? Singled out? Maybe a little bit angry?

I am a strong supporter of law enforcement (I used to be in law enforcement), but guess what - that's how the rest of us feel when we are denied our Constitutional right to provide for our own defense by carrying a firearm onto the premises of a business. Go ahead and begin your rants, anti-carry business owners. The fact of the matter is, if those officers weren't in the restaurant in the course of their official duties, then they had no more right to carry onto private property than anyone else.

Think about that.

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[Warrior1256]

I,too, am a former member of law enforcement and am also a CC person now that I am retired. I am definately pro cop. But why should police officers be allowed to carry in no gun zones when properly licensed law abiding citizens can not?

 

[blarg]

several Supreme Court decisions have upheld the view that cops carry a weapon for their own personal protection, not law enforcement. So makes sense to me... if the policy is "no guns" then there are no exemptions.

good for the employee for enforcing company policy (although one I may not agree with) equitably.

 

[Deserteagle]

Unfortunately if a business wants to make a no-gun policy, that is their right. I would be pretty angry if I made a business and couldnt make my own rules for who comes inside. All we can do is avoid businesses that are anti-gun. Those police and everyone who values their second amendment rights should avoid that place.

Im guessing when that place gets robbed the police will make real sure to get their real fast....

 

[RonM0710]

This is why I love my new smartphone App "POSTED" it lists anti-gun business befoe you go there.

 

[CarryNM]

Rules are rules. These guys are just like you and me, except for the badge.

 

[DRNurse1]

Private property==Private Rules. As you can see from the follow up here, the local rules change based on circumstance. Hurrah for the employee enforcing the rule equitably, but the business is silly for having such a rule in the first place and for trying to 'make exceptions' in the second.

We do indeed "need to stand together...." --B. Frankilin

Unfortunately if a business wants to make a no-gun policy, that is their right. I would be pretty angry if I made a business and couldnt make my own rules for who comes inside. All we can do is avoid businesses that are anti-gun. Those police and everyone who values their second amendment rights should avoid that place.

Im guessing when that place gets robbed the police will make real sure to get their real fast....

 

[webbch]

The officers were stated to be "on duty" but in plain clothes. Regardless, they were not there conducting official business ...they were there to eat. The employee is to be commended for enforcing the policy equally. The LEO should have assessed their situation better IMO. They were not conducting official business, it was a private establishment with posted no guns policy. They should not even have entered - go somewhere else, just like all 2A supporters ought to be doing. If they HAD to go in, comply with the signage. If they could not comply because they were on duty, then they should have left without even entering!

I've heard businesses claim they have the LEO exception because it affords them the additional security of police presence. I say that if you want free security via police presence, then don't have anti-gun policies!

 

[ezkl2230]

The article is incorrect about them being "on duty." The officers would have been "code 7" - mealtime. As in any other profession, they are off duty at that time, regardless of whether they were displaying the badge. I did a ride along with the Grand Rapids Police Dept. several years ago as part of their civilian police academy. When they called code 7, they were off the clock - still in uniform, but off the clock. When I worked for Denny's as a host while I was in college, we were one of the area cop shops. Those officers were off the clock while they were there.

 

[Michael Ramsey]

Unless they are invited in or on an official call, it shouldn't matter if they were on duty or not. Fact is that it's private property and if the owner of the property doesn't want guns in the place then cops shouldn't bring them in.

On a side note, the one in Greenwood Indiana does not have a sign up. On another side note, their food is disgusting and I'll be very very hungry and they will be the only place with food before I'll eat there again.

 

[ezkl2230]

Unless they are invited in or on an official call, it shouldn't matter if they were on duty or not. Fact is that it's private property and if the owner of the property doesn't want guns in the place then cops shouldn't bring them in.

On a side note, the one in Greenwood Indiana does not have a sign up. On another side note, their food is disgusting and I'll be very very hungry and they will be the only place with food before I'll eat there again.

It is my understanding that BWW leaves it up to the franchise owner to decide whether they want to post themselves as gun free. Anyone heard differently?