Maj Caudill on gun ownership


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Very good article, of course from a Marine !!!!

As the Supreme Court hears arguments for and against the Chicago, IL Gun Ban, I offer you another stellar example of a letter (written by a Marine), that places the proper perspective on what a gun means to a civilized society. And now you're going to hear another loud clamor for gun control from liberals in Arizona.

Interesting take and one you don't hear much. . . . . .
Read this eloquent and profound letter and pay close attention to the last paragraph of the letter....

"The Gun Is Civilization" by Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret)

Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force.
If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force.
Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that's it.

In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion.
Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.

When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force.
You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force.

The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.

There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations.
These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a [armed] mugger to do his job.
That, of course, is only true if the mugger's potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat--it has no validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are armed.

People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.

Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury.
This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser.

People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst.
The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level.

The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter.
It simply wouldn't work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable.

When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone.
The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force.
It removes force from the equation... and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act.

By Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret.)

So the greatest civilization is one where all citizens are equally armed and can only be persuaded, never forced.


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I read that recently (don't recall where) and it is every bit as true now as it ever was.

Michael Willett

Denver Firearms Examiner
This reminds me of a quote...

"An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life." -Robert A. Heinlein

Michael Willett
Denver Firearms Examiner


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Hate to break your heart but "Major Caudill" doesn't exist. This piece was originally written by a blogger who went by the name of " The Munchkin Wrangler" (Hey, Google's right there if you doubt me). Anyway our hero Mr. munchkin was a gay rights activist and his original points out that a gun could be all that stands between a drag queen and a gay basher. Since this meme doesn't really fly in conservative circles the post was edited , "Major Caudill" was created and the post was credited to him.

And now you know the rest of the story .

Good day

ETA not sure why the computer keeps deleting it but the blogger's name was "The Munchkin Wrangler"


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One line in that letter says it best for me:

"When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone".


You missed a catagoy badly. There are also those who hunt the wolves. Deep amidst the shadows we have lived, you need to ease up and enjoy living a bit.

Take care and be safe


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You missed a catagoy badly. There are also those who hunt the wolves. Deep amidst the shadows we have lived, you need to ease up and enjoy living a bit.

Take care and be safe


Hey did you used to post under the name Texas Skyhawk on THR?


Yep- I agree I carry to be left alone just like a rattlesnakes rattle is a warning- Leave me alone and I go my way mess with me and you lose.

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