Looking for feedback on Sig P938 versus Kahr 9mm

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Looking for some feedback on the P938 and the Kahr 9mm.

My reading says the 938 quality issues have started to stabilize after October 2012. Anyone have any experience with a late model 938?
What about ammo, is the 938 finicky? What grain do you shoot? Any experience with plus pressure in the Sig? The magazine seemed hard to load the last two rounds. Does this mitigate over time?

I have a p238 and I like having the same manual of arms. I have shot both guns recently. I shot much better groups with the P938.
The tight slide on the Kahr gave me trouble. Research says this mitigates over time. Feedback on Kahr experience welcome as well.

Any input welcome. Thanks
 
I can only speak to the P938, I have an extreme and used to own a two tone. I traded the two tone for a P239 in 40. Both guns ate anything I fed them including reloads and steel case. Very accurate as well. It's my daily carry, am willing to bet my life on it. Sig makes excellent guns, little pricey but worth it.
 
I have a Kahr P40 in fact I've owned 2 and can confirm that they do have a Break In period of about 200 rounds. The difference after this is quite noticeable and definitely an improvement. For me the accuracy at 7 yards or less is quite good, but beyond that I'm not that good, but I think that's a combination of me and a short barreled gun.
 
I have the kahr pm9. It is my edc pistol. Kahr guns all have about a 200 rund breakin period. After that, every one I own has performed reliably and will shoot anything I feed through it. In addition to the pm9, I have the pm45, cw9 and cw45.
 
As an experienced shooter of the Kahr's, how do you compare the recoil of the cw9 versus cw45? I have not shot the cw45 as yet? I have heard the 9mm "flips" while the 45 pushes back into your hand. My initial rental session with the cm9 had a very consistent center-line, but a lot of variation from low to high along the center-line.

Thanks for the reply.
 
Thanks for the reply. A little surprised to hear the 938 has handled a wide range of ammo. I have found my 238 doesn't like cheaper ammo.
 
McMail said:
Thanks for the reply. A little surprised to hear the 938 has handled a wide range of ammo. I have found my 238 doesn't like cheaper ammo.
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Like you I had heard that the 938 didn't like the cheaper lighter grain ammo, The LGS assured me that I would like it and that it would shoot most anything I put in it. I broke it in with two hundred rounds of cheap Federal 115 gr. Shot perfect. The more I shot it the more accurate it or I got and the more I liked it. I did put some Hornady's through it as well, just not nearly as many due to the cost. It's not my every day carry nor was it intended to be but if it was I would trust it 100%.
 
Can't speak for the Kahr, but my P938 shoots whatever I put in it, even steel cased. I've had it about 4 months and run about 600 rounds through it, of several brands of ammo.
 
+1 on the hogue grips for the p938. I got a two-tone with the hogue grips on it and I absolutely love it. I have large hands and I feel like the extra width in the hogue grip really helps with the fit. Mine eats all sorts of ammo. It was a little hard to find a stock holster for the p938 when I got mine, but there should be more available now (I just went custom leather).

My experience with sig magazines is they are all a little stiff for a while, but will break in a bit over time. They are a bit pricey for what they are (especially the 1911 and similar sig mags).
 
Sig P938 is one of my favorites. All day long. If anyone has a little problem with any 238 or 938, try oiling it up a little. Sometimes they have come from the factory a little dry.
 
McMail said:
As an experienced shooter of the Kahr's, how do you compare the recoil of the cw9 versus cw45? I have not shot the cw45 as yet? I have heard the 9mm "flips" while the 45 pushes back into your hand. My initial rental session with the cm9 had a very consistent center-line, but a lot of variation from low to high along the center-line.

Thanks for the reply.
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I run 185 grain ammo through the cw45 and 147 grain ammo through the cw9. For me, recoil is never an issue. Everyone perceives recoil differently but with the lighter bullet, I can't tell a difference between the two.
 
Hmm, SIG SAUER P238 and P938 are SAO guns, while the Kahr PM9 and CW9 are DAO guns. Stay with the same type of action, in your case SAO, for consistency. Nothing is worse than forgetting that safety, because you switch between different carry guns with different action types.
 
I see this is an older thread, however, I do have some experience with this subject. I own both a Kahr PM9 and a SIG P938. I love them both. My Kahr had one FTF within the first 10 rd of break in and none since. I have about 500 rds through it. I can't tell you about all kinds of ammo, however, it shoots Speer 124g Short Barrel Gold Dots reliably. It generates a measured 345 ft/lbs of energy with that round.

My SIG P938 is also a great gun. I bought it a few months ago and just love it. It is very accurate, has never had a malfunction, and is comfortable to shoot, especially with the extended mag. and Hogue grips. This winter I carried Hornady Critical Defense 115 gr. in it and they were reliable. I've put about 500 rds through it as well.

I have used each gun in a IDPA BUG gun competition with good results. My nod goes to the P938, probably because of the SAO trigger. Someone mentioned that it is not a good idea to mixup DOA and SAO handguns. I agree. I'm schizophrenic about my guns and love them all. Sooo… what I have done is I carry my 1911s and clones for about half the year, including the P938 when I want really small guns and then I carry my striker fired half the year including the Kahr PM9. That way I don't get confused about the manual of arms.
 
Thanks for all the input

Komondor said:
I see this is an older thread, however, I do have some experience with this subject. I own both a Kahr PM9 and a SIG P938. I love them both. My Kahr had one FTF within the first 10 rd of break in and none since. I have about 500 rds through it. I can't tell you about all kinds of ammo, however, it shoots Speer 124g Short Barrel Gold Dots reliably. It generates a measured 345 ft/lbs of energy with that round.

My SIG P938 is also a great gun. I bought it a few months ago and just love it. It is very accurate, has never had a malfunction, and is comfortable to shoot, especially with the extended mag. and Hogue grips. This winter I carried Hornady Critical Defense 115 gr. in it and they were reliable. I've put about 500 rds through it as well.

I have used each gun in a IDPA BUG gun competition with good results. My nod goes to the P938, probably because of the SAO trigger. Someone mentioned that it is not a good idea to mixup DOA and SAO handguns. I agree. I'm schizophrenic about my guns and love them all. Sooo… what I have done is I carry my 1911s and clones for about half the year, including the P938 when I want really small guns and then I carry my striker fired half the year including the Kahr PM9. That way I don't get confused about the manual of arms.
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Just wanted to drop a note of thanks to all the recent posters. I have decided to go with the p938 and I am deciding between the AG model and the model with the larger rubber grips. It is really a story of the thinnest possible grips for "correct" holding of the pistol versus the rubber grips that feel better and allow me to shift my grip a little for better trigger access.

If anyone has any thoughts on the rubber grips and concealed carry, I'd be interested.

Thanks
 
McMail said:
Just wanted to drop a note of thanks to all the recent posters. I have decided to go with the p938 and I am deciding between the AG model and the model with the larger rubber grips. It is really a story of the thinnest possible grips for "correct" holding of the pistol versus the rubber grips that feel better and allow me to shift my grip a little for better trigger access.

If anyone has any thoughts on the rubber grips and concealed carry, I'd be interested.

Thanks
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I bought the Hogue grips after market. If you do that you can use either. Of course, you can also buy the slimmer/wood grips after market as well.
 
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