Long haul trucker ccw permit...carry, yes or no?


itsallgood

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I drive cross country for a trucking company and can travel through 12 states in a week. Some of the areas and truckstops I drive through and stop at, a person would be nuts NOT to "carry". As we all know, some states are more CCW friendly than others. My question is this, how do other CCW permit holding truckers handle traveling through all the different states with all the different laws concerning CCW. Do you carry/not carry depending on the state you're traveling through? Do you always carry because concealed carry means just that "CONCEALED"? Im asking for ideas on how you all handle this. My thoughts are this, If I decide to carry, I should ALWAYS carry...no matter what! My CCW instructor said "Dead is dead"...always carry! What are your thoughts on this?
 

OldOwl

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That was when I decided to get my CC. I bought property in Maine and used to leave at 3:00 AM from the south shore through Boston during the Big Dig days. They'd move the damn road EVERY week and detour everyone downtown with no signs. I used to kn ow Boston well but its changing so fast. So I found myself every week in dark deserted streets at 3:15 AM asking strangers where the hell the road is with thousands of dollars worth of tools and equipment in the back of my pickup, and a grand in cash in my pocket.

My advice would be, if you're going to carry illegally, minimize your risk. Keep a trigger lock on the gun maybe in the top of a duffel bag within reach, but don't lock the lock. Keep the mag out of the gun but close by NOT in the duffel bag. Now, you have wiggle room in BOTH directions. If I were going to do it, that's how I'd go about it. :biggrin:
 

m1gunr

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There are NO federal laws against truckers carrying weapons, however there may be Employer rules against weapons in and on company property. If you are licensed to carry in the states you visit, you are legal to carry. For those states you are not licensed then you will have to unload and case per Federal travel laws.

Here is a document from Office of Hazardous Materials Standards that firearms do not fall under hazardous materials in commercial vehicles.

http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/CommercialVehiclesAndFirerarms.pdf

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NY has the most asinine laws on the books. If you travel through and stop for gas/food, you are good to go BUT if you stop for the night then you are now a felon. Each weapon you carry could get you 7 years.
 

Axeanda45

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I have 5 yrs OTR experience.... Concealed means Concealed.... ONLY thing I would worry about is the remote possibility of having to load or unload on Federal property........


I do have a CCW, and I do announce being armed when dealing with LEO and DOT when State law requires, Never had a problem, never disarmed or looked at sideways, but it hasn't helped out with getting out of tickets, lol
 
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JSDinTexas

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I have 5 yrs OTR experience.... Concealed means Concealed.... ONLY thing I would worry about is the remote possibility of having to load or unload on Federal property........


Did 20 years of OTR starting in the 70s and had guns in the truck all the time for a while, for the first 5 years I was only running in TX, AR, OK, LA. When I went coast-to-coast, I quit carrying cause I was in NY and CA routinely. My problem was I wanted to carry but couldn't count on not being sent to some ignorant state that prohibited and didn't want to run the risk of the felony.

Only solution is get an intrastate run or dedicated run where you will know where you are going, otherwise, consider a big stick. :no:
 

oldbanjo

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I would find a place to hide a Gun in the Truck when in the wrong States. I would NOT CC, you can get stopped and inspected at any time. Some of my Drivers have been stopped and inspected. I've always had a Gun in my Vehicle/Motorcycle sense the mid 60's no matter what State I was in.
 

mkuisi8mo

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...NY has the most asinine laws on the books. If you travel through and stop for gas/food, you are good to go BUT if you stop for the night then you are now a felon. Each weapon you carry could get you 7 years.

+1 on that.

However, it's not only a Felony for the "Illegal Possession of an unregistered handgun without a valid NYS Pistol Permit" for the overnight stop. If going through and you are, let's say, planning on having lunch with your old college buddy or your aunt Tilly who live along your route, well that too is the Felony Possession rap, BTW: ALL handguns are registered in NY, their "Assault Weapons Ban" did not "sunset" (thanks to Chucky Schumer's help). Pistols have a 10 Rd max limit...and on & on!

Also, all the major cities in the state have their own weird laws, e.g., You can legally own a pistol-grip 12 gauge In Kingston, but not in Rochester.

Don't even think about driving through NYC carrying any firearm. People have been arrested for a misdemeanor "illegal possession" at all the NYC airports who simply unboarded one plane to catch another connecting flight on route to their final destination out of NYS...regardless if they already were legal with the TSA. The City cops check every flight manifest to see who has a handgun in their cargo-stowed luggage. If you are one of them you're going up "S**t Creek" & not your final planned destination.

Albany is worse. The county DA has an Albany County Sheriff Deputy specifically assigned to do the same thing as in NYC at their airport...the only difference is in Albany you get a Felony.

If you don't already know it...NY does not recognize any other state license either, only their own Pistol Possession Permit (No non-resident permits either). It's also a crime to simply hold a handgun in your hands without that damn Pistol Permit with your name on it.

AND, the LEO's are everywhere giving out "bogus" tickets anytime they can, but they will let you plea your case down later in court if you plea "not-guilty" as a state & local revenue stream. Your chances of crossing the state without getting pulled over for something is just the "Luck of the Draw".

I lived there for about 42 years. I finally had enough and "voted with my feet". I made one last run there on family estate business last May/June. Then, I had to disarm completely and stash everything at my sister's place in PA before I crossed the border. (Never mind I am licensed to carry concealed in 34 states)

Well, I got in and then out ASAP, less than a week. I still managed to get stopped for one of those "bogus" tickets the night before heading out. BTW: Road-side searches can go down for "Probable Cause"...LEO's make that call "on the spot"! I'm never going back! I'll do everything in my power to avoid even transiting through that state.

My best advice is top off your fuel tanks & drain your bladder before heading in, then drive straight on through non-stop. During that pit-stop, lock up your firearms and stash them per the Fed standards.
 

MountainGator

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I'm an NRA Certified Instructor, and I shutter at what you posted that your CCW instructor "said".

I routinely travel From Montana to Florida (and back) twice a year. Every state is (at least slightly) different, but understanding where you can legally carry is not that hard of a task. This site has a good "reciprocity map", and two other good site for other information on vehicle carry, open carry, etc. are Link Removed and Link Removed. Depending on what state issued your CCP, you may be quite legal in many other states. Also,there are several states (Florida in particular) that issue permits to non-residents, and many states (all but CO, SC, MI & NH) honor non-resident permits.

But here's a tip on the fastest way to lose your CWP, and probably your right to even purchase a firearm... Get convicted of carrying a concealed firearm in a state that does not honor any of your permits, or get convicted of a "carry violation" (carrying in a prohibited place) even in a state that does honor your permit.

But here's another suggestion... If you know where the "Bad Truck Stops" are, avoid them! I realize that you may have a lot of constraints on going a different route, but you may be able to pick where along your route that you stop.

So think about this one... Prison is Prison, and in some places illegally carrying or possessing a firearm - concealed or otherwise - will allow you to become intimately familiar with the inside of some State's Pen!

StaySafe
MG
 

tionico

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Friend of mine drives long haul, he's a VERY avid gun owner and user. His "edc" in his cab? His very trusty M1 Garand. He says its legal anywhere in the continental US except NYC, and he won't go there... not for anything. He knows which states will allow lawful carry with the permits he has, and does carry a concealed handgun there. Other places, it is locked away, unloaded, ammunition in another locked container.
Something else to bear in mind, if you have a sleeper cab and are SLEEPING inside it, you are no longer in a "vehicle" but in a (temporary" dwelling... and it becomes legal in almost all places to have a loaded handgun ready to hand. As soon as you wake up, though, if you're in never never land, you have to secure the weapon, as your "dwelling" again becomes a vehicle. Not quite certain how that slices down when team driving, one in the can one in the saddle.

BUT... my buddy's M1 is ALWAYS in the cab, and ALWAYS loaded. Extra stripper clips ready to hand. He's been doing it for years, never had a problem. Its a long gun, and only holds 8 rounds.... so under the maximum everywhere. He's also a great shot with that gun, having qualified as "Expert
on the Army Qualification Test.

Someone mentioned the Florida permit.. a good idea. Go to Florida's Dept lf Agriculture page, find the link for the permit. They will send the entire packet of forms, requirements, etc, to you at no charge... even include an extra set of fingerpring cards
 

Bozz

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Hmmmm, thought the federal laws prohibited the carry of firearms loaded and ready to go when crossing state lines? It was my impression that they had to be unloaded, securely encased, with ammo in a different place, etc. when crossing state lines.

I hope I am wrong.
 

G50AE

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Hmmmm, thought the federal laws prohibited the carry of firearms loaded and ready to go when crossing state lines? It was my impression that they had to be unloaded, securely encased, with ammo in a different place, etc. when crossing state lines.

I hope I am wrong.

You are. For instance, if I have a South Carolina carry permit and a New Hampshire carry permit as well, I can drive from Westminster, SC into Toccoa, GA and back and forth while carrying with no issues. My SC CCW covers me in SC, and the NH CCW covers me in GA. The issue is one of state law, you have to follow the law of the particular state you are in.
 

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