Lindsey Graham Retired Veterans Must Pay More For Their Healthcare

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Lindsey Graham Retired Veterans Must Pay More For Their Healthcare

Lindsey Graham has been carving out a niche in the absurdly crowded GOP presidential field by attempting to establish himself as the most gung-ho jingoistic war hawk of them all. In a recent speech at the Atlantic Council think tank, Graham announced his plans to increase American troop deployment in Iraq and Afghanistan, put boots on the ground in Syria, and send heavy weaponry to the Ukrainian levels.

Graham has never seen combat himself; his experience as a “veteran” consisted of working as an Air Force lawyer in South Carolina, processing wills for the soldiers who really did fight in the Gulf War. But he is very willing to send Americans soldiers to fight and die in strategically unnecessary and globally destabilizing wars.

Which makes it even more abhorrent for him to announce plans to increase the amount that veterans will have to pay for their healthcare, putting the burden of the injuries and psychological trauma they endure fighting Graham’s wars on their own shoulders- because it’s too heavy on the budget, which somehow has $35 billion for the F-35 fighter jet program (which may not ever see production) but not enough to pay for the healthcare of our veterans.

“The retired Tricare (veterans military healthcare program) community is going to have to increase over time the amount they pay to make it sustainable…about 5 percent of the money to pay Tricare bills comes from the patient population. In the private sector, it’s about 20 [percent]. So over time, we’re going to have to ask Tricare retirees to contribute more to make Tricare more sustainable” said Graham at another Atlantic Council conference.

It’s just another glaring example of how the Republican Party’s effusive praise for our veterans is nothing but empty words. They send them to fight and die to achieve their political ambitions, but have no regard for their well-being once they’ve served their purpose- exactly like the way they treat their own constituents. The US has the biggest defense spending budget in the world, given to a Pentagon that has lost $9 trillion over the past twenty five years, but somehow we can’t find enough money to take care of the people who put their lives and limbs at risk to defend our nation and her interests.

My Thoughts:
He just caused every retired military person to say, FU, and he's a retired Air Force officer.

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I wrote him about this. Got the stock BS answer, twice. No mention of his stand. I wish I could take back my vote.
 
Terrible. There are certain groups that we need to take care of. The elderly, kids, vets, the disabled. Vote him out.
 
My Thoughts:
He just caused every retired military person to say, FU, and he's a retired Air Force officer.

He, like all politicians is in it for one reason, himself. He doesn't give a damn about anyone other than his fat cat contributors, and you need to understand he doesn't need his veteran benefits, he has the one of the best health care plan as a member of congress, for life.
 
Personally I believe that a veteran with combat related injuries or illness should not have to pay for any related medical procedures. Now if you go there with a cold or snotty nose, that'd be different. We all have some deductibles or co-pays.
 
When I first entered the military, one of the enticements used for making it a career was the promise of free medical care for the rest of one's life. It was always stressed that it was "for life." But that, as well as a lot of other promised entitlements, soon disappeared. Then we were shuffled off to the VA. I did get a disability rating from them and an offset from my retirement pay but nothing else. The only time I went to a VA office after that, the first thing they wanted was a financial statement, didn't even ask about my disability. I pay my own way with private insurance and Social Security now.
 
When I first entered the military, one of the enticements used for making it a career was the promise of free medical care for the rest of one's life. It was always stressed that it was "for life." But that, as well as a lot of other promised entitlements, soon disappeared. Then we were shuffled off to the VA. I did get a disability rating from them and an offset from my retirement pay but nothing else. The only time I went to a VA office after that, the first thing they wanted was a financial statement, didn't even ask about my disability. I pay my own way with private insurance and Social Security now.

Your longevity and quality of life will likely be better since you are not relying on the VA for your health care.

I live a couple of miles from a VA hospital, and know a number of people that use it for their health care. Seems it is a constant battle, and being bounced from doctor to doctor, and neither seems to know what the other is doing. The lack of caring seems to be systemic, and built into the system.

I also spent 30 years as a volunteer firefighter, and I recall one where we responded to a cardiac arrest call. We worked the patient initially, paramedics arrived and we got a pulse back before even getting him in the ambulance. The man was actually talking to the paramedics before they got to the hospital, the local trauma center. After several days in the hospital he was transferred to the VA hospital, where he died laying on a gurney in a damn corridor. No heart monitor, no one monitoring him, just parked in the damn corridor.

Maybe he would have died had he remained in the cardiac care unit at the hospital, but if he had arrested again, they would have attempted to save him.
 
Same here OG. I started going to the VA to get my meds, when I retired, but was not old enough to get Medicare for a couple of years. I recently stopped going to the VA, as I felt I was getting better care at my local family internist/doctor. When I went to the VA, the first thing they wanted was my Medicare card and my supplemental medical insurance card. The VA was billing them for my visits. Since I have no major military inflicted injuries (thank God) I felt the time and money spent at the VA, would be better spent on someone that really needed it, due to military injuries and illness.
 
We have Medicare and Medicaid. Why can't we have MediVet? Just give vets their card and let them go to any doctor they choose who accepts Medicare. No more need for the massive costs of a poorly-run government hospital system. No more backlog. No one falling through the cracks.

While these brave folks wouldn't leave their brother behind on the battlefield the very country they fought for is abandoning them. I remember filling-out all the forms when my dad first started at the VA. There were questions about income. My dad said "no one asked me how much money I had when I went to fight a war for this country."
 
Typical Graham! He is a RINO who has done all he can to make us "pee-ons" live under the rules, laws but has exempted himself from them!!! If the elected morons had to live and die under everything they pass they would revolt!

Graham, McCain and MANY others should be given their walking papers with NO pension and benefits for life!!!!
 
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Typical Graham! He is a RINO who has done all he can to make us "pee-ons" live under the rules, laws but has exempted himself from them!!! If the elected morons had to live and die under everything they pass they would revolt!

Graham, McCain and MANY others should be given their walking papers with NO pension and benefits for life!!!!
The VA problems in AZ were right under McCain's nose.
 
Sounds like another complete failure of the VA system to provide the care needed for vets. This happened in a nearby county.

Father of 9 dies in gunfire at church; Family releases statement | Local News - WYFF Home

Sgt. Heidi Warren of the Haywood County Sheriff’s Office said a man, later identified as Wade Allen Baker, 44, of Clyde, alone in the church when law enforcement crews arrived. The man exchanged gunfire with the officers, she said.

The SBI said Thursday that Baker was pronounced dead at the scene.

No one else was injured in the gunfire. Officials have not said who fired the shot that killed Baker.

Paws & Effect, a service dog provider in Des Moines, Iowa, posted a statement on their website saying: “On Wed., Aug. 19, 2015 Paws & Effect was notified by canine I.D. chip-tracking vendor HomeAgain that its 6-year-old service dog, a black Labrador named "Honor," was recovered by law enforcement authorities in North Carolina. The dog is safe and healthy.”
Paws & Effect said Baker got his dog when Baker was being treated for Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder at the Iowa City Veterans Hospital.

Nicole Shumate, with Paws & Effect, said Baker left Iowa for North Carolina because he felt he wasn’t getting the help he needed. She said he went to the VA in Asheville.
 
Your longevity and quality of life will likely be better since you are not relying on the VA for your health care.

I live a couple of miles from a VA hospital, and know a number of people that use it for their health care. Seems it is a constant battle, and being bounced from doctor to doctor, and neither seems to know what the other is doing. The lack of caring seems to be systemic, and built into the system.

I also spent 30 years as a volunteer firefighter, and I recall one where we responded to a cardiac arrest call. We worked the patient initially, paramedics arrived and we got a pulse back before even getting him in the ambulance. The man was actually talking to the paramedics before they got to the hospital, the local trauma center. After several days in the hospital he was transferred to the VA hospital, where he died laying on a gurney in a damn corridor. No heart monitor, no one monitoring him, just parked in the damn corridor.

Maybe he would have died had he remained in the cardiac care unit at the hospital, but if he had arrested again, they would have attempted to save him.

I'm a retired (disabled) coastie and have been using the VA (Spokane) since we moved here in 2005. I've also used VAs in S. California and S. NV, and I've never had to pay a cent for the excellent healthcare I've received there!
 
When I first entered the military, one of the enticements used for making it a career was the promise of free medical care for the rest of one's life. It was always stressed that it was "for life." But that, as well as a lot of other promised entitlements, soon disappeared. Then we were shuffled off to the VA. I did get a disability rating from them and an offset from my retirement pay but nothing else. The only time I went to a VA office after that, the first thing they wanted was a financial statement, didn't even ask about my disability. I pay my own way with private insurance and Social Security now.

Same here. That's what I wrote Graham about the increase of copayments and changes for Express Scripts; got the typical BS fil in the flanks form letter. I got my Combat Related disability by applying thru my County VA representative. Faster then going directly to the VA. I use my local doctor and get better results and treatment from his practice. VA health Care at there facilities are horror stories.
 
I'm a retired (disabled) coastie and have been using the VA (Spokane) since we moved here in 2005. I've also used VAs in S. California and S. NV, and I've never had to pay a cent for the excellent healthcare I've received there!

Then you should feel very fortunate, for care at the VA on average is mediocre to poor, which often translates to deadly.

My MIL was a vet, and received excellent care at the VA, but that was because of the doctor that handled her case, not the system.
 
I have a shipmate who has been going to the VA in Minneapolis, MN for the last 6 years for a lot of pain in his insides. He was getting no relief or answers for his pain and then went to a private Doctor. They found that he had gall stones so bad that they were going into his liver when they removed his gall bladder. The Doctor said that his gall bladder should have been removed 6 years ago.

I would not have waited as long as he did for results. I would have went to a private Doctor long before he did.

Now to be fair I had a neighbor who always goes to the VA in Minneapolis and gets excellent care. I guess it depends on whatever is your problem. You can try the VA but if you do not get better then get another opinion!!
 
I have a shipmate who has been going to the VA in Minneapolis, MN for the last 6 years for a lot of pain in his insides. He was getting no relief or answers for his pain and then went to a private Doctor. They found that he had gall stones so bad that they were going into his liver when they removed his gall bladder. The Doctor said that his gall bladder should have been removed 6 years ago.

I would not have waited as long as he did for results. I would have went to a private Doctor long before he did.

Now to be fair I had a neighbor who always goes to the VA in Minneapolis and gets excellent care. I guess it depends on whatever is your problem. You can try the VA but if you do not get better then get another opinion!!

The VA is a crap shoot for care. I'm not willing to roll the dice when it comes to my health care. You are assigned to a doc, and the doc you see can change frequently. My MIL got excellent care, while others would have been better off going to a witch doctor.

In the private sector you can choose your doctor and it is easy to get second opinions. And if you don't like you doctor, you can change doctors.
 

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