Let's talk DISASTER...

[NotTwoShure]

We all must do the best we are able to do with what we have to work with. To sit back, even in an apartment building, is not a wise activity. With Wal-Mart’s price on rice, pasta, canned goods just start putting things away. I have developed the habit of marking canned goods with a large black marker, date and place of purchase. A little advice was given to me via a prepper, to separate the rice into zip lock baggies. If you have, the space for a small freezer place the baggies into this. This is to kill any critters, weevils and other beggars and not create a health hazard. Only last year I had to throw a lot of canned Pinto Beans and Rice away. We had attempted to use this food and found it to be unusable. However, I would think going without a meal for three days would change that.
Also, Wal-Mart’s 12-gauge, 5.56 another calibers and gauges are priced fairly for now. I do not wish to order 1,000 of anything via internet or with a debit/credit card. Call me paranoid but cash is harder to track, for now.
I developed the habit of buying ammo every payday for years. This has resulted in a decent “On Hand” amount. As with the food, I have been dating this also. Everything is dated and it is an unstoppable habit.
So, just sitting back and worrying about the size of my stash is not an option. I do what I am able to do.
Oh, side note, peaches are a great snack late at night and popcorn, the two are filling.

 

[gunsandgardens]

Here's a tip.... buy a book. If and when the SHTF, technology will fail. Your Kindle, I-pad, Nook, and any other device will be absolutely useless (except maybe for very expensive target practice) once the batteries are dead.

 

[NotTwoShure]

It is a sad thing to ponder but the libraries are selling books by the bag full. $3.00 a shot. I am attempting to stock up on books of every sort.
We have been in the supermarket when the debit/credit link failed completely. Not just the one we were in but the entire quadrant of our area. They posted a sign reading cash only. We have made a habit of carrying around a hundred bucks with us just to have on hand. We were the few who walked out with goodies.
The country of India has had millions of folks without power. I have lived thru my little nightmare of downed power lines and do not wish to revisit that without a few beans, rice, batteries, books and the like.
The south has had bad hurricanes to contend with and I fear this is just a taste of things to come I fear.
I have a 1950’s era book titled “Alas, Babylon”. In this novel, it is supposed that a nuke exchange is survivable. One of the characters is a librarian who proves her worth checking out books. This story is akin to the book and movie, “On the beach”.
Another issue with me is, folks “Getting dressed and nowhere to go”. By this, I mean folks are play-acting the survivor/prepper role. Just as the misguided folks of the Civil War believed the war would be over in days or weeks, if this SHTF/TEOTWAWKI, will certainly be devastating.
Our standard of living has taken many hundreds of years to develop. The medical technology alone is amazing. The fact we are able to communicate from most any place on earth is unbelievable. We have unlimited phone capabilities. I may call anywhere in the USA for nothing with the plan we have now. This computer that I am using. How long would it take to reestablish a simple binary understanding? It is all 0-1”s (Zeros and Ones), this is remarkable. The camera they use to conduct a search of our guts for polyps, the very existence of NASA, Martian roves. We live in a marvelous, wonderful time. At the same time we are on the verge of devastating others and ourselves, we have the capacities to do unbelievable things.
GOD, willing.

 

[phone man]

the books is a great idea- we have been stocking up on old fashioned encyclopedias and the like for a while now for our kids because as great as they are computers and everything like that is going to be worthless---our children still need to learn and they can't do that with a dead computer....also we home school them so we have schoolbooks as well

Here's a tip.... buy a book. If and when the SHTF, technology will fail. Your Kindle, I-pad, Nook, and any other device will be absolutely useless (except maybe for very expensive target practice) once the batteries are dead.

 

[wolf_fire]

Short list:
1) Firearms, you'll need a pistol with plenty of ammo to stave off looters... you'll also need at least one type of rifle for hunting purposes in case their is an extreme extended emergency and all grocery stores are looted... again did I mention lots of ammo.
2) Need some sort of water purifier... chemicals, filters, boiling, etc.
3) Non-perishable food... this doesn't mean you have to have MRE's... think camping and what you eat there.... canned goods are just as good and you end up with convenient storage cans that can be used for a myriad of things.
4) A comprehensive medical kit - it should include basic first aid, but should also include blood clotting bandages, tourniquets, etc.

Protection, food, water, and medicine are essentials. I'm assuming that I will still be able to use my house. I also have a back-up generator, but would only use that sparingly. I can eat, drink water without it... since I have the ability to make a fire where I live and lots of firewood.... if you don't I would include an axe.

Just my $0.02.

 

[gunsandgardens]

A friend of mine asked me if I could help him move. After we got finished, he told me to take whatever I wanted from the garage (it was stuff he was leaving behind) for the assistance. There was tons of stuff from furniture, sports/exercise equipment, a grill, fire pit, even a few bicycles. Off in the corner were about 10-15 medium size boxes full of books. Without hesitation, I took those. He thought it was strange but I knew exactly what I was doing. I hit the jackpot....children's books, Text books (math(basic-calculus), science, history, geography, language), Novels, Biography's, tech books (electronics, carpentry, welding, you name it!), there was even an entire Encyclopedia Britannica set. I'd say I made the right decision. :happy:

 

[NotTwoShure]

I love jumping back to view folks thoughts. I am happy to see other folks in the hard-copy book keeping mode. It may be all that is left once our Alexandrian-Electronics are blinked out. But, who am I kidding? I shall bend over, grab my feet and kiss it good by. I think that is the only real out-come. But, we have to try with what we think we need to do. As to the rifle for hunting, with all the folks going nuts without the dope, drugs and booze, we will be so over run with crazy folks we are going to run out of places to run, let alone hunt to eat. It shall be killer caravans and worse.

 

[e_v_h]

Threads like these make me feel so unprepared. I am relying solely on bugging out, I live in a densely populated city and am renting an apartment with a few friends. With that said I can't stock pile much of anything. All I have is some light dry goods, I calculated 3 days of high calorie food (peanut butter, tuna in oil, corn beef hash) and some no frills gear (water filter, para cord, multi tools, duct tape, tarp, flash lights, fire starting, etc) in a back pack.

I have multiple routes planned to my destination, as well as the newest road atlas incase I need to get somewhere else and there's no gps signal.

If shtf I'd probably be screwed, but my routes are all non-highway backroads so I imagine I can at least get out iof dodge. Bugging into the safe destination will be another story.

 

[NotTwoShure]

I think a lot of folks are in the same mind set as I am. Too many books, movies and now the shootem up games. All end of the world stuff. I think the 1950's with the Saturday air-raid drills, movies (Aagin) and with me the Cuban Missle issue, set us off to this way of thinking. I have lived in L.A. and been on the interstate at rush hour. Think of what may occur with real life or death issues. Miles of interstate parking lots. It just getts worse and we do not have the space here for my real thoughts. We are in a dream world if we think leaving the city will work. No place to go.

 

[Ringo]

I think a lot of folks are in the same mind set as I am. Too many books, movies and now the shootem up games. All end of the world stuff. I think the 1950's with the Saturday air-raid drills, movies (Aagin) and with me the Cuban Missle issue, set us off to this way of thinking.

And then there's this.
http://freebeacon.com/silent-running/

 

[kerb]

Loot and steal as needed. Survival of the fittest unfortunately. When u and ur family are hungry, you are capable of anything.

I wouldn't advise any looting and stealing at my house. That'd be a good way to get yourself aerated.

 

[NotTwoShure]

And then there's this.
http://freebeacon.com/silent-running/

A great site, thanks, spread it around as I plan to do. Thanks, thanks, thanks. Sound the alarm!

 

[gunsandgardens]

If you guys haven't see this feed on youtube, check it out. Good stuff.

Fidockave213 - YouTube

 

[Ringo]

If you guys haven't see this feed on youtube, check it out. Good stuff.

Fidockave213 - YouTube

All Signs of the End of the Age and the final days of this Last Generation. However, these are just the birth-pangs that the Lord commanded us to watch for in anticipation of the Rapture. When the last 7 years of this present generation begin, you can magnify the level of disaster 100 fold.."For then there will be great suffering, the kind that has not happened from the beginning of the world until now, and certainly will never happen again". No matter which scenario eventually causes the collapse of America as a super-state, we know she eventually must fall, because she isn't mentioned by name in Scripture as an integral part of end-time events. I think, personally, that regardless of when the Rapture happens -- before or after implosion -- the Rapture will indeed be a death blow to our nation.

This country has been home to many of us and so that is, indeed, a grievous thought. But be encouraged, because there's a much better world coming and I, for one, am looking forward to it!