L.E.O. encounter while carrying.

[ernstdesigns]

Just thought I would share my experience. I work as a manager of a small business and this morning when I came in to work, we found a vehicle abandoned with a flat tire. I figured: "Give em some time to get a tire, and come back." At the end of my shift, I called the police to run the plates and contact the owner. When the officer arrived on scene, I already had my wallet in my hands, the weapon still concealed. When he got out of his vehicle, I handed him my DL and CPL, and said "I am required to inform you that I am licenced to carry a concealed weapon, and it is on my person. He looked at the licenses, returned them to me, said thank you and we proceeded with our business. That was it. He was friendly and professional. I share this because I have heard stories about officers that are rude or hostile during dealings with CPL holders. Not all officers are like that. Some are quite nice.

 

[The_Outlaw]

Just thought I would share my experience. I work as a manager of a small business and this morning when I came in to work, we found a vehicle abandoned with a flat tire. I figured: "Give em some time to get a tire, and come back." At the end of my shift, I called the police to run the plates and contact the owner. When the officer arrived on scene, I already had my wallet in my hands, the weapon still concealed. When he got out of his vehicle, I handed him my DL and CPL, and said "I am required to inform you that I am licenced to carry a concealed weapon, and it is on my person. He looked at the licenses, returned them to me, said thank you and we proceeded with our business. That was it. He was friendly and professional. I share this because I have heard stories about officers that are rude or hostile during dealings with CPL holders. Not all officers are like that. Some are quite nice.

Great story...'Most' cops are pro-gun's for law abiding citizens in my experience. =-)

About 2 months ago I was stopped in my neighborhood by a motorcycle cop for not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign.
Like you, I also gave him both my drivers license and my CHL and advised him that I was also carrying on my person.
He looked at me with a bit of a surprise because I was only wearing shorts & a t-shirt with sandals.

He asked me what I was carrying and where was it located.
I replied that I was carrying a Ruger LCP in my pocket.

He replied, "Great little pistol, I also have one." :yes4:

He then let me go with just a friendly warning and a ''drive safely''.

I replied, "Thank you sir! Have a nice day and stay safe out there." :victory:

 

[sherra]

I share this because I have heard stories about officers that are rude or hostile during dealings with CPL holders. Not all officers are like that. Some are quite nice.

Very true! My husband is an LEO and, of course, we have many LEO friends. I don't know of ANY of them who do not encourage legal carry! The sheriff in our county is a HUGE CWP supporter & even gave a free CWP training class to 30 women at the beginning of the year after a brutal rape and murder that occurred in our county.

 

[speedy7637]

I to have had nothing but good encounters with LEO's they all thank me for telling them.

 

[Justin Lee Boughton]

The first time I encountered an officer while carrying, I had a similar experience. I was stopped for a traffic violation, and handed over my permit along with my drivers license. Couldn't have been nicer or more professional. The second time, however, went very different.

I was on my home from work late one night, and was stopped by another officer from the same department. When he approached the vehicle and asked "How are you tonight?" I replied that I was good, just confused as to why I was stopped. He informs me I had a headlight, tag light, and brake light out, which was certainly news to me. Before even asking for my driver license, he asked if I had any weapons. I informed him of the .40 on my hip, and the .380 in my pocket, and that I had a license for carrying concealed. It was then that he asked me to step out of the vehicle. I asked what my legally concealed weapons had to do with a busted headlight, offered up my permit for inspection, but did not consent to a search. I was pinned to the car, and had my weapons taken from me by two officers. They told me to sit in the car while they ran my criminal history (which I obviously don't have, because I have a damned concealed weapon permit) and the serial numbers on my guns. They held me there for about an hour and a half, in the pouring rain, in the middle of the night, simply because I had a broken bulb and legally concealed firearms. Ultimately I was released with no charges, and my firearms were returned to me, although they did not hand them directly to me, they put them in my trunk and told me not to get them out until I got home.

These are the people we need to watch out for. If this happens again, I'll be filing suit against the department for illegal search and seizure without warrant or probable cause.

 

[Tripletap]

It's amazing.... Not every cop is like Daniel harless. Every cop I have encountered supports my right to carry.

 

[araczynski]

last i checked cops were people too, with all the good and bad baggage that people come with i.e. its not 'them' against 'you', if anything, its merely 'him/her' against 'you'.

 

[tocsin]

Same thing happened to me here in Boise, ID. Pulled over for a 'California stop' (my bad. Was after midnight on an empty back road 4 way.) Did the standard window down, dome light on, hands visible as he approached. Handed CCW when asked for L, R, and I. Volunteered that I have a valid concealed carry permit and that I had a 380 in the center console. His reply was 'k.' Went back, ran my info, came back and reminded me not to roll stops and sent me on my way. Nice guy.

Generally, I feel that if you treat LEO's with respect, they will return it. If extra security measures would have been required, like asking me to step out of the vehicle, I would have done that too and not balked about it. Theirs is not an easy job, and they are in harms way much more than the average citizen. My hat is off to them, fire fighters, our great military, and all the American service personnel that devote their lives to serving and protecting this great nation.

 

[enbarnes]

Depends on the cop and your attitude. Just like customer service often depends on your attitude, and I'd bet the people who have a bad experience at a given range went in there with an obvious chip on their shoulder.

 

[sdprof]

Very true! My husband is an LEO and, of course, we have many LEO friends. I don't know of ANY of them who do not encourage legal carry! The sheriff in our county is a HUGE CWP supporter & even gave a free CWP training class to 30 women at the beginning of the year after a brutal rape and murder that occurred in our county.

Yet the various national Chiefs of Police associations come out against CC. Obviously the bosses are not in touch with the troops in the field, are they?

 

[SmithKoWitz]

Thanks to those of you who included the state where you were when stopped. I appreciate knowing where people do and do not encounter a hassle. I also realize that any day of the week anywhere, an officer of the law could be completely different in any given situation; we are after all, just simple humans. I was in an accident in WA, State Patrol called to the scene. Showed him no CCP, but he did ask if I had any weapons in the car (must have been the NRA or GOA sticker?). He never asked if I was carrying. Everything went fine. It's called carry conceal, and I was concealed.

 

[rogn]

The bosses ar dependent on the "machine" to hold their jobs. What and how they feel may or not be relevant.

 

[DLeeHarley]

Yet the various national Chiefs of Police associations come out against CC. Obviously the bosses are not in touch with the troops in the field, are they?

Like Rogn stated the Chiefs of Police are a appointed position and most need to keep in mind what their mayor and or city councils points of view are to keep their jobs. I've rode in a M/C club with many many members of LE, and almost to a man/woman they are in favor of CC.

 

[hogwylde]

There was a cop that frequented the same convenience store as I do and we always spoke for at least 10 minutes and it was always about guns. He was always encouraging me to get my CCW permit and although he didn't know all the laws, we spoke as to how we interpreted them. He was a twice decorated for heroism 27 year veteran who was sadly killed in a freak accident yesterday while working road construction detail. He will be missed. RIP Officer Torres.

Funeral arrangements announced for Westfield Police Officer Jose Torres | masslive.com

 

[BravoSierra2012]

The first time I encountered an officer while carrying, I had a similar experience. I was stopped for a traffic violation, and handed over my permit along with my drivers license. Couldn't have been nicer or more professional. The second time, however, went very different.

I was on my home from work late one night, and was stopped by another officer from the same department. When he approached the vehicle and asked "How are you tonight?" I replied that I was good, just confused as to why I was stopped. He informs me I had a headlight, tag light, and brake light out, which was certainly news to me. Before even asking for my driver license, he asked if I had any weapons. I informed him of the .40 on my hip, and the .380 in my pocket, and that I had a license for carrying concealed. It was then that he asked me to step out of the vehicle. I asked what my legally concealed weapons had to do with a busted headlight, offered up my permit for inspection, but did not consent to a search. I was pinned to the car, and had my weapons taken from me by two officers. They told me to sit in the car while they ran my criminal history (which I obviously don't have, because I have a damned concealed weapon permit) and the serial numbers on my guns. They held me there for about an hour and a half, in the pouring rain, in the middle of the night, simply because I had a broken bulb and legally concealed firearms. Ultimately I was released with no charges, and my firearms were returned to me, although they did not hand them directly to me, they put them in my trunk and told me not to get them out until I got home.

These are the people we need to watch out for. If this happens again, I'll be filing suit against the department for illegal search and seizure without warrant or probable cause.

Sounds like Decatur AL

 

[K7lvo]

Yet the various national Chiefs of Police associations come out against CC. Obviously the bosses are not in touch with the troops in the field, are they?

From what I've seen, that's true of all upper management where the company/organization is large enough that management doesn't have direct contact with the folks on the front line. When referring to companies, I refer to them as "spreadsheet driven" as opposed to "customer driven."

 

[BigSlick]

The first time I encountered an officer while carrying, I had a similar experience. I was stopped for a traffic violation, and handed over my permit along with my drivers license. Couldn't have been nicer or more professional. The second time, however, went very different.

I was on my home from work late one night, and was stopped by another officer from the same department. When he approached the vehicle and asked "How are you tonight?" I replied that I was good, just confused as to why I was stopped. He informs me I had a headlight, tag light, and brake light out, which was certainly news to me. Before even asking for my driver license, he asked if I had any weapons. I informed him of the .40 on my hip, and the .380 in my pocket, and that I had a license for carrying concealed. It was then that he asked me to step out of the vehicle. I asked what my legally concealed weapons had to do with a busted headlight, offered up my permit for inspection, but did not consent to a search. I was pinned to the car, and had my weapons taken from me by two officers. They told me to sit in the car while they ran my criminal history (which I obviously don't have, because I have a damned concealed weapon permit) and the serial numbers on my guns. They held me there for about an hour and a half, in the pouring rain, in the middle of the night, simply because I had a broken bulb and legally concealed firearms. Ultimately I was released with no charges, and my firearms were returned to me, although they did not hand them directly to me, they put them in my trunk and told me not to get them out until I got home.

These are the people we need to watch out for. If this happens again, I'll be filing suit against the department for illegal search and seizure without warrant or probable cause.

So you are going to give them a pass on this type of behavior? I will be the first one to credit a cop for being professional but when they treat someone like a criminal for a legally possessed firearm a complaint should be filed. Checking someones DL for warrants should not take 1 1/2 hours. I monitor my local PD's radio traffic and I always hear within 2 or 3 minutes of a traffic stop the " No Warrants " all clear sign from the dispatcher. Actually it is coded like "negative 43's" but you get my point. I rarely notice a stop lasting more than 5 or 6 minutes. Maybe they need some "additional training". Lock them in your trunk and tell you not to touch them until you get home? WTF. I would have been on the phone to their SO 5 minutes later.

 

[dbrow6272]

I actually had a LEO thank me for carrying. He stated "thanks, we need all the help we can get". Plus let me off on a speeding stop! Most of these guys support us and are great full they have us out there with eyes open and ready to help if needed.

 

[devildog1971]

Yet the various national Chiefs of Police associations come out against CC. Obviously the bosses are not in touch with the troops in the field, are they?

I am was a police officer and am now permanently totally disabled and retired. The bureaucratic administrators and a lot of the upper echelon, (policy makers) in general, and judges look at justice in an entirely different perspective, again I am not including all, they even spell justice differently than law abiding tax paying American citizens, the way these elite bureaucrats spell justice is " JUST- US "

 

[mmckee1952]

Not all LEO encounters are alright, go to youtube and google "police and concealed carry" you'll come off seeing a bunch of boot happy AH police in action, made me worry a little about the people who are supposed to be there to help us, shocking to say the least.