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Hello everyone I tried to search for the answer before posting so I apologize if this topic has been covered. I am a PA resident with a carry permit and a FL out of state permit. I'm driving from PA out West and looking at the map Illinois does not honor my permits from PA and FL. My question is can I unload my hand gun and lock it up while driving through the state? Does anyone know the laws on this? I'm just driving through not staying overnight.

Any info would be greatly appreciated

Thanks Joe
 
The new Illinois law does not seem to affect "travelers", but ...... I would lock it in a safe and make it "inaccessible" :)
 
Ok thanks I'll be sure to unload it and lock it up when passing through. I need to see if its the same for Nevada and California.

Thanks for the help
 
I have PA res and FL non-res also, but live in IL on active duty military orders. PA is my state of residency.

I spoke to Annette at the IL State Police Firearms Service Bureau this afternoon on this issue. According to her, with a valid CCW permit from your home state (any state!):

- You may drive with a loaded handgun on your person or in your vehicle. This law is in effect NOW.

- If you exit the vehicle, you may NOT take the loaded weapon with you since IL does not have reciprocity with any state. Secure it in your vehicle out of sight and inaccessible. I intend to use a locked and chained Microvault safe to store mine.

Hope this helps!

Kwc
 
There is a Federal Law on the books that is specific for your situation. It allows any firearm owner safe passage through any state as long as you are leaving a place you are allowed to carry and arriving at a place you are allowed to carry. It is 18 USc 926A. Of course some states are more lenient than this law allows and as you have found out with some states, you are able to carry on your person as you pass through. IL has just gone through some major revamping of their carry laws and I would search them to see if they are now more lenient than the Federal Code allows.

18 U.S.C. 926A - Interstate transportation of firearms
 
kwc said:
I have PA res and FL non-res also, but live in IL on active duty military orders. PA is my state of residency.

I spoke to Annette at the IL State Police Firearms Service Bureau this afternoon on this issue. According to her, with a valid CCW permit from your home state (any state!):

- You may drive with a loaded handgun on your person or in your vehicle. This law is in effect NOW.

- If you exit the vehicle, you may NOT take the loaded weapon with you since IL does not have reciprocity with any state. Secure it in your vehicle out of sight and inaccessible. I intend to use a locked and chained Microvault safe to store mine.

Hope this helps!

Kwc
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I have not heard this about IL. Do you have any linked cites to go by?
 
Thanks for the info. Illinois makes it pretty clear and surprisingly easy. As long as you are allowed to carry in your state legally, you can have it in your vehicle while you are in it. Much obliged Kwc.

Sorry for requesting the information in writing. I just don't trust police with actually knowing the law. I've been in states where the local LEO didn't not know reciprocity (I now carry all reciprocity agreements in a binder with me), nor can one expect a LEO to know all the laws pertaining to firearms for each and every state.
 
Go to the Illinois State Police Website, there they discuss transporting a firearm through Illinois. It is not as strict as most non-Illinois people think. You dont have to worry about crossing the state line and immediately getting pulled over for a search. Stay within 5 of the speed limit and wear your seatbelt, You shouldnt have a problem.
 
You may NOT carry in Illinois, probably until next year UNLESS you have a carry permit from another state AND are a resident of said state. It sucks Illinois trusts out of state residents more than local residents. Hmmmmm

Leave it unloaded and locked. Here is a PDF from the Illinois State Police: http://www.isp.state.il.us/docs/1-154.pdf

LOL stay out of Chicago and you probably won't need it.
 
chicagogunsmith said:
You may NOT carry in Illinois, probably until next year UNLESS you have a carry permit from another state AND are a resident of said state. It sucks Illinois trusts out of state residents more than local residents. Hmmmmm

Leave it unloaded and locked. Here is a PDF from the Illinois State Police: http://www.isp.state.il.us/docs/1-154.pdf

LOL stay out of Chicago and you probably won't need it.
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You just posted a link to the old law... see post #6.

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/publicacts/98/PDF/098-0063.pdf

Section 40. Non-resident license applications. ... ...
(e) Nothing in this Act shall prohibit a non-resident from
transporting a concealed firearm within his or her vehicle in
Illinois, if the concealed firearm remains within his or her
vehicle and the non-resident:
(1) is not prohibited from owning or possessing a
firearm under federal law;
(2) is eligible to carry a firearm in public under the
laws of his or her state or territory of residence; and
(3) is not in possession of a license under this Act.
If the non-resident leaves his or her vehicle unattended,
he or she shall store the firearm within a locked vehicle or
locked container within the vehicle in accordance with
subsection (b) of Section 65 of this Act.
 
kwc said:
Wolf_fire,

Read section 40(e) in the signed legislation here:

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/publicacts/98/PDF/098-0063.pdf

You may also want to call the Firearms Services Bureau if you need further clarification.

Regards,
Kwc
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Hate to rain all over everybody's parade but "LOADED" is not mentioned - (quoting section 40 (e)) "Nothing in this Act shall prohibit a non-resident from
transporting a concealed firearm within his or her vehicle in Illinois, if the concealed firearm remains within his or her vehicle and the non-resident:" . . . has a permit from his/her state of residence.

Looks like those without an IL permit still need to comply with FOPA.
 
anvil6 said:
Hate to rain all over everybody's parade but "LOADED" is not mentioned - (quoting section 40 (e)) "Nothing in this Act shall prohibit a non-resident from
transporting a concealed firearm within his or her vehicle in Illinois, if the concealed firearm remains within his or her vehicle and the non-resident:" . . . has a permit from his/her state of residence.

Looks like those without an IL permit still need to comply with FOPA.
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anvil6, did you happen to check the definition of "concealed firearm"?

Quoting from Section 5:

'"Concealed firearm" means a loaded or unloaded handgun carried on or about a person completely or mostly concealed from view of the public or on or about a person within a vehicle.'

It's not raining. :)

- kwc
 
anvil6 said:
Hate to rain all over everybody's parade but "LOADED" is not mentioned - (quoting section 40 (e)) "Nothing in this Act shall prohibit a non-resident from
transporting a concealed firearm within his or her vehicle in Illinois, if the concealed firearm remains within his or her vehicle and the non-resident:" . . . has a permit from his/her state of residence.

Looks like those without an IL permit still need to comply with FOPA.
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While you may be correct, I was born and raised in IL. I still have a lot of family there and get all the latest news. There has been some County Sheriffs who have said they will NOT arrest anyone with a gun in their car. BUT the IL State police say they will arrest anyone with a gun. So when I travel through or in IL I ALWAYS unload and lock my gun up separate from the ammo. So IMHO if anyone wants to have a loaded gun in their car or truck while diving through IL you do at your own peril. Remember it was in IL where obummer learned how to interpret the law. And we see how well he is doing that!!!!!!
 
vernsimpson said:
While you may be correct, I was born and raised in IL. I still have a lot of family there and get all the latest news. There has been some County Sheriffs who have said they will NOT arrest anyone with a gun in their car. BUT the IL State police say they will arrest anyone with a gun. So when I travel through or in IL I ALWAYS unload and lock my gun up separate from the ammo. So IMHO if anyone wants to have a loaded gun in their car or truck while diving through IL you do at your own peril. Remember it was in IL where obummer learned how to interpret the law. And we see how well he is doing that!!!!!!
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State Police have basically said they will enforce the law... not that they would "arrest anyone with a gun."

Without a CCW process fully in place, counties that state they will not arrest or prosecute those who conceal carry in public (without the required IL license!) are being inconsistent with state law. The State Police's assertion to arrest was made in that context--they intend to continue enforcing the law of the land.

I think there is little risk adhering to a clear provision of the law, such as the permitted/licensed non-resident vehicle concealed carry provision, especially when the State Police's own Firearms Services Bureau confirms this provision is fully in-place.

If you are worried LE is incapable, or unwilling to, correctly interpret the law with respect to firearm possession and carry, then I'd recommend never bringing a firearm into Illinois, period, even once the licensing process is in full swing. That's your call and your right.

But to each his own... I wouldn't criticize anyone who plays it "extra safe" until we have some history and case law behind us.
 
Thanks KC for understanding my position. But I read in my my small home town paper that the IL State LE would arrest anyone carrying or had a firearm in their car or truck. Now I will admit that my small town "blab" is nothing but a gossip rag, but that is what it said. The State LEOs will do what the Governor and Attorney General want. The Gov and AG did not want the CC law and will do what ever they can to stop or at least slow it down. I know IL politics and they cherry pick and read into the law what ever they want.

I agree with you that it would be wise to be very careful until there is some history and case law on the books. It will be interesting to see what the requirements will be to apply for a CCL. The bar may be set so high that the IL State LEOs would have trouble achieving it. IMHO
 
If you have stay overnight, do you have to leave your weapon in your car or can you take it in the motel?
 
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