Just How Close Is the Rapture?


Ringo

A WATCHMAN
"As an ambassador for Jesus Christ, according to all the signals, you are about to be called home. So, it is incumbent on you to proclaim the message while you remain on this fallen planet."

Rapture…What If…?







"You hypocrites, you can discern the face of the sky and of the earth; but how is it that you do not discern this time?

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Ringo

A WATCHMAN
We who are watching and waiting have prophecy staring us right in the face, as events line up as dominoes that only need a push, and literally "all hell on earth" will break loose...I believe we are coming right up to the push that will start that time coming. It will be the church of the Laodiceans that goes through the fire of the Tribulation. It will be those who have simply warmed a pew, not interested in what the preacher was speaking of, living their life like there was no tomorrow. They have lived for their flesh, and have put on the false face of righteousness because they belong to the best church in town, give regularly to the building program, or volunteer for the Annual Church Bake off, they think they are just fine in God's eyes....Only when they have been left behind will the thought of their foolishness come crashing down upon them, and they will know they have missed the "catching away of the Church." They may have heard it all their life, and they have scoffed at the very idea and fallen for the age old trap of being sloven for the Lord. This is the Church that God will spew out of His mouth, into the horror of the coming Tribulation.



Those who have been in earshot of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and were either too busy, or just didn't think they needed some preacher to tell them that they were living in sin, or were destined for hell, if they did not repent..will remember those words and will search desperately for an answer when millions have been reported missing all over the planet. I saw a video and it showed what it could be like, if those who have put off the decision that will affect their destination for eternity, sitting in a church service and the preacher is preaching his heart out..Bible in hand when suddenly a clap of thunder and his bible falls to the ground....suddenly the whole church is near empty save a few totally frightened members who look around in horror and they instantly know what has happened. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI1r2XJJWqQ If you have been idle in the church of Laodicea, I urge you to come to the Church of Philadelphia, where Jesus arms are open wide to receive you.



"You hypocrites, you can discern the face of the sky and of the earth; but how is it that you do not discern this time?"​
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Ringo

A WATCHMAN
"This Caronavirus pandemic is a pebble in the ocean compared to a yet-future global event that will rock the world to its core. If one rapidly spreading virus can cause this type of global disruption, can you imagine what the RAPTURE will do when tens of millions are removed from the world in an instant?” :eek:



We ARE The Last Generation - how much time is left?
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Whydah

New member
Should the "rapture" occur tonight, I am ready to go. But I don't believe in the rapture. Sorry. The idea is such a big chunk of what would have been a big part of Christian doctrine since the beginning of the early church that it is somewhat preposterous that no one spoke of it until the Nineteenth Century when Charles Darby began crusading for this newfound major Christian doctrine. It makes no more sense to me to cherry pick various Bible verses from both the OT and NT and string them into a total new doctrine than choosing random sentences out of a book and claim a completely new story line. Personally, I believe the rapture theory was planted by satan himself to create chaos and a falling away from God by some Christians in the last days when the much hoped for rapture does not occur.

When God turn ancient Israel over to the Assyrians after ancient Israel began idol worship God said that "The righteous will suffer with the un-righteous". God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. Why would He give pampered Christians not ever tested by fire an easy way out?
 

Ringo

A WATCHMAN
Should the "rapture" occur tonight, I am ready to go. But I don't believe in the rapture. Sorry. The idea is such a big chunk of what would have been a big part of Christian doctrine since the beginning of the early church that it is somewhat preposterous that no one spoke of it until the Nineteenth Century when Charles Darby began crusading for this newfound major Christian doctrine. It makes no more sense to me to cherry pick various Bible verses from both the OT and NT and string them into a total new doctrine than choosing random sentences out of a book and claim a completely new story line. Personally, I believe the rapture theory was planted by satan himself to create chaos and a falling away from God by some Christians in the last days when the much hoped for rapture does not occur.

When God turn ancient Israel over to the Assyrians after ancient Israel began idol worship God said that "The righteous will suffer with the un-righteous". God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. Why would He give pampered Christians not ever tested by fire an easy way out?
First, look at 2 Peter 3:3-4 “Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts, and saying ‘Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation." Not too long ago I had a Christian friend mock this eschatology, unwittingly quoting Peter’s passage nearly verbatim! This brother later apologized. But if Christians are fulfilling this, what about unbelievers? Second,it's obvious that yourself, like so many professing to be Christian, haven't read the Bible. Sorry, for if you had read the Bible, you would know that the RAPTURE is in no way, shape, or form a "newfound Christian doctrine". You would also know that "ancient ISRAEL / Assyrians" is old doctrine/testament/covenant, "pampered Christian' is new covenant/testament. I'll attempt to keep this simple for you (unless of course you wish to further pursue truth of Scripture), let the Scripture itself answer your last simple question... God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. Why would He give pampered Christians not ever tested by fire an easy way out?"....

1 Thessalonians 5:9-10 New King James Version (NKJV)

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"For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 who died for us, that whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with Him".

You may also check out my SIGNATURE (which is Scripture by the way).
 

Oldgrunt

Well-known member
Should the "rapture" occur tonight, I am ready to go. But I don't believe in the rapture. Sorry. The idea is such a big chunk of what would have been a big part of Christian doctrine since the beginning of the early church that it is somewhat preposterous that no one spoke of it until the Nineteenth Century when Charles Darby began crusading for this newfound major Christian doctrine. It makes no more sense to me to cherry pick various Bible verses from both the OT and NT and string them into a total new doctrine than choosing random sentences out of a book and claim a completely new story line. Personally, I believe the rapture theory was planted by satan himself to create chaos and a falling away from God by some Christians in the last days when the much hoped for rapture does not occur.

When God turn ancient Israel over to the Assyrians after ancient Israel began idol worship God said that "The righteous will suffer with the un-righteous". God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. Why would He give pampered Christians not ever tested by fire an easy way out?


Since you do not believe in the rapture, if it were to happen tonight, you might not be taken. I don't know your relationship with the Lord or how much you believe in Scripture but you apparently missed the part where God promises to save some from the horrors of the Tribulation. At the rapture, it is written that both the living, and the dead in Christ will be taken with Jesus and, at the same time, the rise of the Antichrist. The belief in the Rapture emerged from the anticipation that Jesus would return to redeem all members of the church. It is Scriptural, it is not cherry picking. Eschatology, dealing with End Times, provides proof from the Bible of the rapture and belief that both living and dead believers will ascend into heaven to meet Jesus Christ at the Second Coming (Parousia).

Your assertion that Christians today are "pampered" and never tried by fire" is false. Christians are being tried every day the world over because of their belief and, yes, the righteous are suffering along with the unrighteous. We are not immune. Now the main question is, have you repented of your sins in this world and hope to be found worthy of being taken in the rapture, regardless of when it comes? No one knows with any exactness when it will occur but we can know the seasons given by the Bible. And by that, we can infer that the time is extremely close.
 

Ringo

A WATCHMAN
No one knows with any exactness when it will occur but we can know the seasons given by the Bible. And by that, we can infer that the time is extremely close.

AMEN...A Lifeway Research study found that “98% of the church will not talk about the glorious news that Jesus will return any moment. Think about that: according to the Bible, the Rapture is our blessed hope and 98% of those that call themselves Christians don’t talk about it (Titus 2:13). Perhaps that is why it will come upon the world like a snare, and so many Christians think prophecy teachers are fanatics. Jesus is coming soon and most are not ready.

"You hypocrites, you can discern the face of the sky and of the earth; but how is it that you do not discern this time?

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Whydah

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I prayed the sinner's prayer long ago and accepted Yashua into my life as Lord and Savior. There are no other "requirements" in order to be found "worthy" for spending eternity together with Him that I am aware of. Insinuating to others that they are somehow lacking in their spirituality as you hold up your own is judgmental and not of the Spirit. Should the "rapture" occur I will be pleasantly surprised. If it does not occur many will be devastated and disillusioned. Tribulation for Christians in other parts of the world is already a reality as they are beat, raped, imprisoned, beheaded, and suffer all manner of indignities. Not so here in America, at least not yet. But it will come. The wheat will certainly be separated from the chaff, as promised.
 

Ringo

A WATCHMAN
I prayed the sinner's prayer long ago and accepted Yashua into my life as Lord and Savior. There are no other "requirements" in order to be found "worthy" for spending eternity together with Him that I am aware of. Insinuating to others that they are somehow lacking in their spirituality as you hold up your own is judgmental and not of the Spirit.

No one questions your requirements to be found worthy, that's strictly between you and God. Neither does anyone insinuate that you are somehow lacking in your "spirituality". If any "spirit" is in question here, it is the Berean spirit, you know, that "searched the scriptures daily, to determine whether those things were so." So you see, it's not being judgemental to call you out when you claim to possess knowledge of Scripture when in fact you are clearly ignorant of it.

It's not my intention to question your reading comprehension, however, our discussion is in reference to the Rapture. Is it just by coincidence that you mention "worthy" in your post? I ask because concerning the Rapture, Scripture reads...Luke 21:36..."Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man". Now let me ask you, what exactly is the "ESCAPE" that our Lord is referencing? Before you continue here I suggest that you be like the Bereans, search the Scriptures, because it's much more difficult to hide ignorance than to acquire knowledge.
 

Oldgrunt

Well-known member
I prayed the sinner's prayer long ago and accepted Yashua into my life as Lord and Savior. There are no other "requirements" in order to be found "worthy" for spending eternity together with Him that I am aware of. Insinuating to others that they are somehow lacking in their spirituality as you hold up your own is judgmental and not of the Spirit. Should the "rapture" occur I will be pleasantly surprised. If it does not occur many will be devastated and disillusioned. Tribulation for Christians in other parts of the world is already a reality as they are beat, raped, imprisoned, beheaded, and suffer all manner of indignities. Not so here in America, at least not yet. But it will come. The wheat will certainly be separated from the chaff, as promised.

Friend, there is no need to be argumentative concerning religion. Having said the sinner's prayer, you expressed your belief in God and received pardon for your sins.

John 11:25-26: King James Version (KJV):

25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?


Since you have accepted Jesus as your Savior, He has also accepted you, so your salvation is not in question. The subject here is the Rapture. It is not specifically mentioned in the Bible as "Rapture" never the less it is referred to in many parts of Scripture and will be God's provision to remove His Church, both living and the dead, from a world that will literally become a living hell for those left. Ringo's posts have never been more relevant concerning the Rapture than today because it is apparent that this world has become a sinful place and people are denying God. Consequently, He has foretold that He will be doing something to remove His people from the world before the fateful and horrible end which is coming, i.e., the Rapture followed by the rise of the Antichrist. It is up to you to accept or reject the possibility of it happening. Your belief on that single point shouldn't cost you your salvation so I wouldn't let it become a thorn in your side. I would, however, suggest that you read the passages that portend the Rapture. You will find them interesting and can lead to many interesting discussions that we can enjoy rather than be at odds over things with which we should be in reasonable agreement. You have taken the first step by making your post so please do continue since discussions concerning the Bible will be of benefit to us all.
 

Whydah

New member
I would suggest that you do a bit of research on the subject of pride. Referring to another believer as "ignorant" who you think does not meet YOUR standard is an indicator that you possibly should temper your own tongue if you desire what you say to be received as helpfully as you might have intended.
 

Ringo

A WATCHMAN
I would suggest that you do a bit of research on the subject of pride. Referring to another believer as "ignorant" who you think does not meet YOUR standard is an indicator that you possibly should temper your own tongue if you desire what you say to be received as helpfully as you might have intended.

"Ignorance is a lack of knowledge and information. The word "ignorant" is an adjective that describes a person in the state of being unaware, and can describe individuals who "deliberately ignore or disregard important information or facts".

You say that you "don't believe the Scriptures" and at the same time profess to be a "believer". Sorry pal, your banal trite reply doesn't cut it. Truth is neither pride, condescending nor hate speech.
 

Ringo

A WATCHMAN
Personally, I believe the rapture theory was planted by satan himself to create chaos and a falling away from God by some Christians in the last days when the much hoped for rapture does not occur.

I've lost count of the many times that I've seen Satan use deceivers such as yourself to attack the doctrine of the imminent Rapture of the church to hide God’s love from the world and steal the peace and hope from believers.

God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. Why would He give pampered Christians not ever tested by fire an easy way out?

The Rapture: Why It’s Called The Blessed Hope
https://harbingersdaily.com/the-rapture-our-blessed-hope/




(Thank God) We ARE The Last Generation - how much time is left?
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Dinky19

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I have NO physical proof that the heavenly wall exists either. Only thy faith. I’d sure hate to not have the FAITH when he comes again and spend eternity somewhere else than heaven.
 

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