Just a safety thought

[hogwylde]

Even though we all carry, the last thing any of us wants to do is to shoot someone or be shot, stabbed, etc and it got me to thinking about Craigslist and EBay sales.

Most of us follow a set of safety precautions when making the transaction in a "well lit WalMart parking lot" (or similar place) but we all nonetheless have taken some kind of risk even though we've read in the news how people get mugged, shot, stabbed making the transaction even in broad daylight. So I thought of this.......

Why not make the transaction in the local police dept. lobby? Not only will you be "safer", you're probably less likely to assaulted or receive stolen property. I'm selling an expensive watch on CL and that's what I plan on doing.

 

[BC1]

I only deal by mail, FedEx or UPS. I have a "no bugs" policy.

 

[UATKP]

Hogwylde, I think you have made good sense in your OP. Very good idea!

 

[mappow]

Said the same thing on an earlier post. Link Removed

 

[S&W645]

In the police station lobby? Better check your local and state laws. Many of them make it a crime to carry into a PD station.

 

[superprincess]

Probably best to mail the watch and make sure the buyer pay's for insurance.

 

[apvbguy]

Even though we all carry, the last thing any of us wants to do is to shoot someone or be shot, stabbed, etc and it got me to thinking about Craigslist and EBay sales.

Most of us follow a set of safety precautions when making the transaction in a "well lit WalMart parking lot" (or similar place) but we all nonetheless have taken some kind of risk even though we've read in the news how people get mugged, shot, stabbed making the transaction even in broad daylight. So I thought of this.......

Why not make the transaction in the local police dept. lobby? Not only will you be "safer", you're probably less likely to assaulted or receive stolen property. I'm selling an expensive watch on CL and that's what I plan on doing.

that may work well for a watch or other general merchandise but here in FLA as it is in many other states police stations are a place you cannot carry in.

 

[wolf_fire]

On the surface, it makes good sense. However, there may be laws in your town, city, state that prohibit the exchange of goods and services within a police station. Check into it before doing so. When you have checked into it, let us know what you found out.

It may be invaluable information for someone contemplating the same thing.

 

[telpinaro]

On the surface, it makes good sense. However, there may be laws in your town, city, state that prohibit the exchange of goods and services within a police station. Check into it before doing so. When you have checked into it, let us know what you found out.

It may be invaluable information for someone contemplating the same thing.

That's what I was thinking. Though maybe if you can't do it in the building, across the street might still be an option.

 

[Johnny Dollar]

I only deal by mail, FedEx or UPS. I have a "no bugs" policy.

What do you mean by no bugs?

 

[Bhoffman]

Probably best to mail the watch and make sure the buyer pay's for insurance.

Why should the buyer pay for insurance? Insurance pays the shipper if lost/damaged.

 

[wolf_fire]

Why should the buyer pay for insurance? Insurance pays the shipper if lost/damaged.

Because it is customary in transactions for the buyer to pay for shipping (which may include insurance). Its only been in recent times (last 10 years or so) that many retailers have been trying to entice buyers with "free shipping". It wouldn't be an enticement if it weren't customary for the buyer to incur the cost of shipping.

 

[kelcarry]

This thread can be used for most everything you try and sell to the "public" in any media--internet sites, newspaper ads etal. Recent case in Charleston SC, young man trying to sell truck via Craigs and got in truck with two BGs for test ride. He ended up dumped and dead and they ended up with the truck. A small item not requiring a "test drive" would be easier than a car but it follows same pattern. As far as firearm is concerned--not sure if mentioned, but sale at local gun shop or FEL dealer where gun shop or FEL dealer at leasts see fee for transfer might work and it has the element of security. Even the "well lit walmart" or the gas station at a Costco or Sams Club only requires an exchange of firearm for cash and not a test drive. Make sure you at least bring two copies of a sales agreement that attests to seller and buyer being legally able to sell (it was your firearm) or buy (he is not a felon). Put down some form of ID on agreement (CCWP info) and both sign and date--you have now, at least in SC, done your due diligence for sale, but FEL involvement is still best way as mentioned above.

 

[Johnny Dollar]

I wouldn't do it in the lobby but the parking lot would probably work

 

[BC1]

What do you mean by no bugs?

No crazies, wackos, etc. Don't want face-to-face sales.

 

[cjohnson44546]

I only deal by mail, FedEx or UPS. I have a "no bugs" policy.

if I were worried about the person... I'd much rather deal with them in person somewhere semi-safe, over giving them my address so they know exactly where I live.

 

[Paul_of_TX]

How about a bank lobby? Preferably your bank. I have heard this recommended for transactions such as this to avoid handing over your property in exchange for a fake cashiers check. If you are at your bank then you can verify any cashiers check is real or you can have the teller make sure any cash you get is real as you deposit it. You might even ask prior to meeting them how they want to pay for the item. If they want to pay with a check I would only agree to meet in the lobby of their bank so you can withdraw the funds with them still there. Most banks have some sort of security and decent surveillance equipment.

One of the last places I want to be is in a Wal-Mart parking lot; technically those are considered third world territories. I would also rather stay away from police departments. They can pull you over and write you a ticket and they have an entire judicial system set up behind them to take your money. It is your word against theirs and the sheeple are still under the impression that the local police are their friend but they are modern day tax collectors.

 

[BC1]

if I were worried about the person... I'd much rather deal with them in person somewhere semi-safe, over giving them my address so they know exactly where I live.

I only buy from ebay anyway. Never had a bad experience. I check the sellers feedback and only buy from those with 98% or above. I figure even the most honest people will have a few buyers who are never satisfied.

 

[watchnut]

Here in Michigan if you have a CPL you can sell directly to another CPL holder with no problems and not having to involve a FFL. A form needs to be filled out and signed by both parties. If you are the buyer, you take a copy to you local police department for them to file with the state.

As far as a place for the transaction, if you don't know the potential buyer, check with your local LEA to see if you can handle at the office or in the parking lot during daylight hours!

 

[apvbguy]

Here in Michigan if you have a CPL you can sell directly to another CPL holder with no problems and not having to involve a FFL. A form needs to be filled out and signed by both parties. If you are the buyer, you take a copy to you local police department for them to file with the state.

As far as a place for the transaction, if you don't know the potential buyer, check with your local LEA to see if you can handle at the office or in the parking lot during daylight hours!

and you think that being forced to file a form with the gubbermint is good ? in FLA anyone can sell their weapon to anyone, it is the seller's responsibility to ascertain that the buyer is eligible to purchase a weapon.