Judge says UC can deny religious course credit
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LVLouisCyphre
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There is no religious exemption for commission of a homicide. I find it interesting that I throw out the argument of separation of church and state and I get branded a heretic. Some things throughout the millennia never change. Are we now going to do the Salem witch trials again?
HK4U
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Some of us don't view this ruling as bad. Need I remind you that the Supreme Court also ruled in our favor for Heller.
Once in a while even they do something right.
You quoted from the Declaration of Independence, however you left part of it out so I will fix it for you
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
What does it say? That we are created and our rights come not from government or some paper but from the Creator. Do you really think the atheist and agnostics we have trying to run our country or ruin our country are smarter than Jefferson and the other Founding Fathers of our country?
Ektarr
Dedicated Infidel
I disagree with much of what you say, but mostly with this. It's not the differing religions which cause conflict...it's the lack of respect for other's beliefs which causes the strife, where there is strife, and there usually isn't. Most Americans are very accepting of another's preferences, as long as those people don't try to prosthelytize.
MissPriss
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Im sure atheist's and agnostics believe they were created, maybe they view they were endowed with their rights by their parents (creators) rather than a God.
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tattedupboy
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I did not ask to be directed to a wikiedia article on the subject. I asked you to show me where in the Constitution that this invention of the concept of "separation of church and state" can be found. Show me the part of the Constitution that requires separation of church and state. As soon as you can show me where the Constitution mentions that, I'll shut up.
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I agree with the judges ruling and UC's policy. The one thing that I have found in my many many years of going to church and discussions with some very learned Bible scholars is that there is no more agreement on what the Bible means than there is on what 2A means. Too many people take one verse and try to interpret that verse out of context, not even considering that it was already translated by men to possibly mean something different than the original intent.
I grew up in an area that was 100% Christian Protestant and religion was quite frequently discussed and taught in school. I have since learned that some of what I was taught was wrong. Some of it was a misinterpretation. I have had new Ministers at a church disagree with the previous Minister on an interpretation and I have found that taken in context and as an entire study that science does not conflict with the bible.
Some have interpreted that the universe is around 7,000 years old. There are several scientific studies and conclusions that if you consider Eienstien's theories on time compression at high speed travel that the actual relative time from the scientific big bang considering travel distances would be an actual measurement of 7,000 years for the Earth.
I grew up in an area that was 100% Christian Protestant and religion was quite frequently discussed and taught in school. I have since learned that some of what I was taught was wrong. Some of it was a misinterpretation. I have had new Ministers at a church disagree with the previous Minister on an interpretation and I have found that taken in context and as an entire study that science does not conflict with the bible.
Some have interpreted that the universe is around 7,000 years old. There are several scientific studies and conclusions that if you consider Eienstien's theories on time compression at high speed travel that the actual relative time from the scientific big bang considering travel distances would be an actual measurement of 7,000 years for the Earth.
HK4U
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You don't believe in evolution? why we all know that the heavens and earth and all they contain started from some explosion and out of it here we are. And oh yes, an explosion in a junk yard will produce a new car.
NDS
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I have heard the superstitious state that on many occasions and it just doesn't make any sense. I know it makes religious people feel superior to reinforce each others fantasies, but a statement like yours does nothing to advance any meaningful discussion.
AND, neither does mine! These word-trading sessions are just like teaching a pig to sing!
Go ahead and delete it. I'm sure it will frighten many people here.
Again, why do we have to compare fantasy or lack of it on a concealed carry forum? I get tired of the members who think forcing others to believe in their imaginary friend has something to do with the purported reason this forum exists.
NDS
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Not at all, it won't help but it can't hurt. Also, just to make clear: You, and others who choose to follow a religion (or choose to not do so), have every right to do so. Unfortunately, many people feel their view of faith, or lack of it, should be forced on others. All of those who would impose their views on others are wrong.
Now, was there something to do with CCW before this thread was 'jacked?
I can't say that the thread was really 'jacked as it had nothing to do with OC or CC to start with. But everyone at least should know that the reason that there are no dinosaurs now is they wouldn't fit on the ark, or at least that is what one homeschool science book teaches. It is a shame that Noah didn't build it bigger so we could test out our 1911's on really big beasts.
HK4U
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Then maybe you two had the wrong books. I am only going by what the Sunday School Teacher told me who was homeschooling her children. I started a big argument when I questioned that and was called all kinds of things. Also many reptiles can easily drown and I would suspect that most of the dinosaurs fell into that category.
tattedupboy
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Ektarr
Dedicated Infidel
Just as a conversation enhancer, and not for any particular reason (other than that I like to play Devil's Advocate and try to see the side that's sometimes overlooked...)...
Satan is also called the 'Great Deceiver', because, having dominion over the Earth (we are told), he can place things in our lives which are designed to fool us into disbelieving what God offers and try to turn us away...right?
S'pose Satan simply puts all these things here . . . dinosaur bones; old rocks; whatever it is that has us believing, "scientifically", that the Bible is wrong and science is right? Suppose it's all a great big Satanic joke meant to decieve us and, in the end, everything in the Bible is true and accurate?
I'm not sayin' anything . . . I'm just sayin'. Just suppose...
Satan is also called the 'Great Deceiver', because, having dominion over the Earth (we are told), he can place things in our lives which are designed to fool us into disbelieving what God offers and try to turn us away...right?
S'pose Satan simply puts all these things here . . . dinosaur bones; old rocks; whatever it is that has us believing, "scientifically", that the Bible is wrong and science is right? Suppose it's all a great big Satanic joke meant to decieve us and, in the end, everything in the Bible is true and accurate?
I'm not sayin' anything . . . I'm just sayin'. Just suppose...
NDS
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So god colludes with and acquiesces to lies--if you say so.
For people who think faith is so simple--you know mustard seed and all--you sure need to come up with some weird convolutions...
