Jared's Jewelry in Concord NH, anti-gun and anit 2nd amendment!

[Psyk00diver]

OK, Jared's is telling me that I can not have CW while on there property. So then are they willing to take full responsibility for my safty? By disarming me and the ablity to protect myself and family on their property, and infringing on my 2nd Adm. right. If anything was to happen to me or a loved one with me, the insuing law suit would bring Jared's to their knees. On the other hand I'm sure that they would say it is not their fault, but the policy they have in play makes it their fault by taking a tool for protection out of my hands. I will never shop at Jared's again.

 

[NavyLCDR]

OK, Jared's is telling me that I can not have CW while on there property. So then are they willing to take full responsibility for my safty? By disarming me and the ablity to protect myself and family on their property, and infringing on my 2nd Adm. right. If anything was to happen to me or a loved one with me, the insuing law suit would bring Jared's to their knees. On the other hand I'm sure that they would say it is not their fault, but the policy they have in play makes it their fault by taking a tool for protection out of my hands. I will never shop at Jared's again.

Did anybody force you to do into Jared's without your gun? NO. You would be responsible for your own decision.

 

[Psyk00diver]

Did anybody force you to do into Jared's without your gun? NO. You would be responsible for your own decision.

NavyLT what your not taking into concitartion is, in my state the law says that i can carry concelled in any public store. The only exption would be if that store is 150 feet from a school. So the sign in the window is in my state it violates state law. Not to mention that the corparte policy is to fallow state law on CC. So corprate would cut their losses in a law suit and offer up the store managment as the offener of the law. As we all know that corprate would never admit to violating their own published policies, it would open up all kinds of employee laws suits to them. There again this is my opinion and how i intreprt my state law. Also in my area of the state i live in is more gun friendly than anywhere i have ever lived in the past, and that is one of the things i like about being here.

 

[BC1]

NavyLT what your not taking into concitartion is, in my state the law says that i can carry concelled in any public store. The only exption would be if that store is 150 feet from a school. So the sign in the window is in my state it violates state law. Not to mention that the corparte policy is to fallow state law on CC. So corprate would cut their losses in a law suit and offer up the store managment as the offener of the law. As we all know that corprate would never admit to violating their own published policies, it would open up all kinds of employee laws suits to them. There again this is my opinion and how i intreprt my state law. Also in my area of the state i live in is more gun friendly than anywhere i have ever lived in the past, and that is one of the things i like about being here.

You're forgetting one key point... it's not a publlc store. It is a private corporation owned by it's shareholders who are entitled to set a policy of "no guns." They're not eliminating your second amendment rights, they're just telling you to exercise them elsewhere. The same holds for first amendment rights. You think you have them? Try going down to the local mall, getting up on your soapbox and speaking out against the lack of constitutional rights (or any other topic). Security will request you stop, after which they will call the police. If you still refuse to stop you'll be arrested for criminal trespass. Now when you get to court, try to continue your tirade against the Obama aministration. You'll be warned once or twice an then charged with criminal contempt of court or obstruction of governmental administration. That's just the way it is. You have no first or second amendment rights on another persons private property.

Anyone remeber they duct-taped Larry Flynt's mouth in court to keep him quiet?

 

[S&WM&P40]

NavyLT what your not taking into concitartion is, in my state the law says that i can carry concelled in any public store. The only exption would be if that store is 150 feet from a school. So the sign in the window is in my state it violates state law. Not to mention that the corparte policy is to fallow state law on CC. So corprate would cut their losses in a law suit and offer up the store managment as the offener of the law. As we all know that corprate would never admit to violating their own published policies, it would open up all kinds of employee laws suits to them. There again this is my opinion and how i intreprt my state law. Also in my area of the state i live in is more gun friendly than anywhere i have ever lived in the past, and that is one of the things i like about being here.

Jared's has no such policy! Trust me I have already spoken to them.

 

[S&WM&P40]

You're forgetting one key point... it's not a publlc store. It is a private corporation owned by it's shareholders who are entitled to set a policy of "no guns." They're not eliminating your second amendment rights, they're just telling you to exercise them elsewhere. The same holds for first amendment rights. You think you have them? Try going down to the local mall, getting up on your soapbox and speaking out against the lack of constitutional rights (or any other topic). Security will request you stop, after which they will call the police. If you still refuse to stop you'll be arrested for criminal trespass. Now when you get to court, try to continue your tirade against the Obama aministration. You'll be warned once or twice an then charged with criminal contempt of court or obstruction of governmental administration. That's just the way it is. You have no first or second amendment rights on another persons private property.

Ways around that. For one you stay on the public sidewalk at their main entrance. Keep moving, do not stand in on place or they will try and claim your blocking the flow of sidewalk traffic. Among otherways, as they say "there is more then one way to sitck it to the man."

 

[snatale42]

NavyLT what your not taking into concitartion is, in my state the law says that i can carry concelled in any public store. The only exption would be if that store is 150 feet from a school. So the sign in the window is in my state it violates state law.

Your saying it's illegal for a store to post a gunbuster on the door, what state is this? Please fill in your profile.

There again this is my opinion and how i interpret my state law.

Again, what state do you live in, depending on where you carry your interpretation on the law may get you into a lot of trouble. Much easier to just see what the carry law in your state actually is.

 

[S&WM&P40]

Your saying it's illegal for a store to post a gunbuster on the door, what state is this? Please fill in your profile.
Again, what state do you live in, depending on where you carry your interpretation on the law may get you into a lot of trouble. Much easier to just see what the carry law in your state actually is.

I searched his posts and it looks like he lives in (Northern, GA).

Psyk00diver

Moving out of state question?

It looks like i may be moving out of Northern GA, for a job. I have a vaild GA CCW permit, will it still be vaild in the state i move to? The other state recinizes the Ga permit, but i will no longer be a resident of GA, so does my permit become revoked?

thank you for any help in answering this question.

http://www.usacarry.com/forums/geor...430-moving-out-state-question.html#post195318

 

[Psyk00diver]

BC1, S&WM&P40 is correct i live in N.GA, and it looks like you took key statments out of content. but you are correct in the intepertation part. To me it looks like Jared's is not fallowing its own corparte policy of fallowing stat law! so they would be in the wrong. But you like I have the rights to our opinions. BY the way i did not fill in where i am now beuase i'm looking at moving soon, and will fill that in after the move.

Also about what you have stated about the 1st Adm. I wish you were right, cause the WBC would not have been at a close friends furnial with their BS. So please tell me how I could leagelly go go after them for what they did? Once again S&WM&P 40 was right in his responce to you statment.

 

[S&WM&P40]

BC1, S&WM&P40 is correct i live in N.GA, and it looks like you took key statments out of content. but you are correct in the intepertation part. To me it looks like Jared's is not fallowing its own corparte policy of fallowing stat law! so they would be in the wrong. But you like I have the rights to our opinions. BY the way i did not fill in where i am now beuase i'm looking at moving soon, and will fill that in after the move.

Also about what you have stated about the 1st Adm. I wish you were right, cause the WBC would not have been at a close friends furnial with their BS. So please tell me how I could leagelly go go after them for what they did? Once again S&WM&P 40 was right in his responce to you statment.

Again I will ask, what are you basing that off of?? I have spoken to Jared's already and they clearly state that their company policy for firearms is to ban them all together in their stores. That's what they stated their said policy on firearms is. So what are you basing your statements off of??

 

[BC1]

Ways around that. For one you stay on the public sidewalk at their main entrance. Keep moving, do not stand in on place or they will try and claim your blocking the flow of sidewalk traffic. Among otherways, as they say "there is more then one way to sitck it to the man."

Just curious. How do you shop from the sidewalk? Who is "the man?" Is this some secret club? Where can I join. ;-)

 

[BC1]

BC1, S&WM&P40 is correct i live in N.GA, and it looks like you took key statments out of content. but you are correct in the intepertation part. To me it looks like Jared's is not fallowing its own corparte policy of fallowing stat law! so they would be in the wrong. But you like I have the rights to our opinions. BY the way i did not fill in where i am now beuase i'm looking at moving soon, and will fill that in after the move.

Also about what you have stated about the 1st Adm. I wish you were right, cause the WBC would not have been at a close friends furnial with their BS. So please tell me how I could leagelly go go after them for what they did? Once again S&WM&P 40 was right in his responce to you statment.

Remember when the judge had Larry Flynt's mouth duct-taped in court because he wouldn't be quiet? Where was his first amendment right on that day? It's too bad they can't duct-tape the code-pink wackos for protesting at our soldiers' funerals.

 

[Psyk00diver]

S&WM&P40, that is what i was told when i called Corporates toll free number, but if you called them to and got a different answer then may be the operators have been told to tell the caller what they think they want to hear to get them off the phone.
Maybe they have been getting allot of calls on this policy and they are just trying to clear the lines as fast as possible?

 

[snatale42]

S&WM&P40, that is what i was told when i called Corporates toll free number, but if you called them to and got a different answer then may be the operators have been told to tell the caller what they think they want to hear to get them off the phone.
Maybe they have been getting allot of calls on this policy and they are just trying to clear the lines as fast as possible?

In either case their anti. If there was an incident no matter what the corp policy is...or supposedly is, it appears all locations share the same huge BS posting banning your weapon. Since the posting carries no weight of law in MOST states, it really doesn't matter. The only people affected are in the states where that posting is law. I'm in a state where that posting means nothing however Jared's has lost my business just the same. As far as banning in the parking lot. Not there call unless there a stand alone shop on there own land, which I've never seen a Jared's that way.

 

[Psyk00diver]

snatale42 i agree with you on they have lost my business also. Yes i have never seen them as a stand alone they are always in a multiplex or mall. so it is a mote point.

 

[S&WM&P40]

Just curious. How do you shop from the sidewalk? Who is "the man?" Is this some secret club? Where can I join. ;-)

LOL, The man is the man everyone knows who the man is.

The phrase "the Man is keeping me down" is commonly used to describe oppression. The phrase "stick it to the Man" encourages resistance to authority, and essentially means "fight back" or "resist", either openly or via sabotage.[1]

The Man" is a slang phrase that refers to the government, and other authority figures in general.

You don't shop from the sidewalk, you boycott and keep others from shopping there(not by force,by the use of words and signs). You can stand at the entrance all day long and they can't touch you. As long as your moving and not standing still.

Not sure there is a "Club Man".

 

[NavyLCDR]

To me it looks like Jared's is not fallowing its own corparte policy of fallowing stat law!

Jared's DID follow state law. State law says they can ask a person to leave their property for just about any reason that they want to. That's what the state law is.

That's what bugs me about all this talk about this corporation or that corporation follows state law. So what? Their is no state in the United States with a law that says firearms MUST be allowed on private property. State law is that they can ask you leave because they don't like your hairstyle, or your gun.

 

[BC1]

LOL, The man is the man everyone knows who the man is.

You don't shop from the sidewalk, you boycott and keep others from shopping there(not by force,by the use of words and signs). You can stand at the entrance all day long and they can't touch you. As long as your moving and not standing still.

Not sure there is a "Club Man".

GOt it! Hey, I remember when Michelle Obama was campaigning for her husband in South Carolina. In her speech she said "Barack Obama is Everyman who has ever been put down by The Man." Now I get it. I think white people were "the man."Holy Schmolly, how racist of her.

:wacko: :cray:

 

[S&WM&P40]

GOt it! Hey, I remember when Michelle Obama was campaigning for her husband in South Carolina. In her speech she said "Barack Obama is Everyman who has ever been put down by The Man." Now I get it. I think white people were "the man."

Holy Schmolly, how racist of her.

:wacko: :cray:

LOL,just a little.

I don't think in 2012 he will have the HUGE outpouring of support he had last time.

 

[S&WM&P40]

Jared's DID follow state law.

State law says they can ask a person to leave their property for just about any reason that they want to. That's what the state law is.

That's what bugs me about all this talk about this corporation or that corporation follows state law. So what? Their is no state in the United States with a law that says firearms MUST be allowed on private property. State law is that they can ask you leave because they don't like your hairstyle, or your gun.

In that aspect your right, THEY do follow state law. But some companies have such policy's that say the same thing. Only their "We follow state/local/Fed law" means they openly welcome customers who CC/OC. That is what it sounded like "Driver" was trying to say.