no maybejim not you. a post has been deleted that i wrote that too.. it was to someone else.
My apologies. I didn't see a really personal nasty post (but in all fairness, I have seen some around). The fact is however we're not getting the issues addressed by the Dem's. I think I have made reasonable points. I have seen no points being made in favor of Obama.
The Constitution and the Second Amendment particularly are very important to me. I do not see how anyone who is a gun owner and wants to remain one particularly someone who believes in personal carry, can possibly consider supporting and voting for Obama/Biden. They not only are but have been a threat to gun ownership, gun carry, and the freedoms that an armed citizenry can defend.
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A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government. — George Washington
Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. — Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria in On Crimes and punishment (1764).
The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed. — Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers
Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of. Notwithstanding the military establishments in the several kingdoms of Europe, which are carried as far as the public resources will bear, the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. — James Madison, The Federalist Papers, No. 46
Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. — James Madison, The Federalist Papers No. 46 at 243-244.